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I am Joinning the National Guard OCS, if after I finish and i cant get full time, can I change to the Air Force as and officer or other branch |
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Hello..i have a female friend who came to the U.S. with a tourist visa and she was then recruited from San Diego and her papers came through and now moved here in Jacksonville to start her training. What do u think about that?
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If you have a vaild I551 Card, (Resident Card) yes you can Join the ARMY. If you have a Work Permit, NO you cannot Join the ARMY. AR 601-210 2–4. Citizenship a. Applicant is eligible for enlistment if any of the following apply: (1) Citizen of the United States. (2) Alien who has been lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence. (3) National of the United States. (4) Citizens (to include naturalized citizens) of the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM), Palau and the Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI). (5) Applicants and enlistees will be advised that if they are not a U.S. Citizen, U.S. National, or a citizen of the Federal States of Micronesia, Palau or the Republic of the Marshall Islands that they must obtain citizenship (U.S.) in order to remain in the U.S. Army for more than (RA) 8 years or (USAR) completion of their MSO. Applicants will acknowledge being informed of this policy by completing the statement on UF 1150. If USAR they will acknowledge being informed of the policy by completing UF 1150 or signing a statement in the remarks section of the DD Form 1966/3. b. Documents and procedures to verify eligibility: (Return all documents to applicant after proper citizenship entries are made on the DD Form 1966 series. (1) U.S. citizens. Applicants must present birth certificate, naturalization certificate, U.S. passport, or DD Form 372 to verify date and place of birth and establish U.s. citizenship. In doubtful cases, forward documents from INS to the Commander, USAREC, ATTN: RCRO-PP, Fort Knox, KY. Enlistment eligibility will be established on a case-by-case basis. (2) Aliens. Applicants must present their INS I-551 issued by the INS showing that the person has been admitted to the United States for permanent residence. (I-551 cards are valid for only 10 years and must be renewed. Further all I-151 cards are no longer valid and applicant must obtain I-551. No resident Alien card that does not contain the picture of the applicant is valid for any reason). (3) Nationals of the United States. A native of American Samoa is issued a birth certificate, which indicates the village of birth followed by the words, "American Samoa." (Citizens of American Samoa, are U.s. nationals.) (4) Proof of birth of U.S. citizens born abroad. Children born of an American parent outside the United States acquire citizenship through the parent. Citizenship verification of persons born abroad of an American parent will be made by presentation of a certified copy of one of the following: (a) DS Form 1350. (b) INS Form N-560. (c) FS Form 545. (d) FS Form 240. (e) U.S. passport unaltered and originally issued for 5 or more years to the applicant. (f) Naturalization Certificate. (g) Document or letter issued by the Justice Department or Department of State (must be original or certified). |
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I belive she can be charged with fraudulent enlistment and kicked out. |
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I have an adopted daughter that desires to join the US Army but is a citizen from Panama, Republic of Panama.
She is 21 years old. We are applying for her US residency at the US Embassy in Panama,with my support, since I am a US citizen and a retired CW2 from the US Army. Can the fact that my adopted daughter's desire for her US residency card EXCLUSIVELY to join the US Army can help expedite the immigration processes which are taking from a year and a half to four years?...if immigration desires to grant her the US residency!!! I suggest that the US Army Enlisting Command should get together with US Immigration Depatment to expedite residence cases like ours, just like when I joined in back in 1978. Thanks. |
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hey i am a belgium soldier on active duty curently in afghanistan i am thinking fore changing tho the us army now i am recon withe the belgium forces the fysics are no prob i do it backwards as i am reading all this its not easy tho change tho the us
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New Commers can they get their cityzenship? serving in the Service?alot of mail about persons who would join can they,will they get their benifits?
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Contact an US embassy asap, there is a chanse you might be able to sponsor her to get a diversity visa(green card). This would enable her to join the US military, and later earn a citizenship by serving a minimum of 3 years. |
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For any non US citizen wanting to join the US military, you might have to apply for a diversity visa(green card).
The application period for 2006, starts Oct 5th 2005 and ends Dec 4th 2005. Starting Oct 5th you can apply here: http://www.dvlottery.state.gov/ More Info: http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_1318.html |
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i am a conditional greencard holder for like almost a year. I joined the army the day i got my Conditional GC and wanted to know if i can apply for citizenship? how do i do it
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I told you already bro that you can apply for citizenship. Here are the details; https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/Active/TAGD/pssd/ins.htm |
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JUST A QUESTION DO THEY STILL CAL ASAREC THE ARMYS MAFIA IT USED TO BE THE NICK NAME.
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Are Reserves eligible for speedy naturalization too?
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I didnt know conditional Green card holders with 2 yrs on their cards can join the army... Is it really possible? That way can I join the army before waiting for 2 years to get the LPR ? Can I enlist for 2 or 4 yrs? |
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To UCONNDOG and other former recruiters,
I am a foreign student from the Philippines who just graduated from Loyola Marymount University in California. I also spent the senior and junior years of high school at this high-school level military boarding school called Army and Navy Academy in Carlsbad (graduated 2001) I want to join the US military- especially the Army or Marine Corps, but cannot because as you often emphasize- you only take green card holders. I am here legally on an H-1B work VISA, otherwise called OPT (Optional Practical Training), which international students are eligible to receive upon their graduation. Please do not confuse this with the regular H-1s which require sponsorship from any employer. Thus it is a non-immigrant VISA. You keep emphasizing that non-citizens who are here illegally and who don't have a green card cannot join, however, how about non-citizens on TEMPORARY, NON-IMMIGRANT VISAs like me? I did not commit any crime and have kept myself in shape according to the Army PFT (I have some old field manuals from my JROTC years). Therefore, other than the issue of a green card, I don't see any reason why I can't join. There was once a time when the US Navy recruited Filipino citizens straight from the islands, but that ended in 1992 when the Manila govt. refused to host NS Subic and Clark AFB anymore. Apparently the current VFA treaty doesn't allow Philippine citizens back in the islands to enlist in the US military either. I don't want any benefits or bonuses,I simply just want to join the fight. It pisses me off that my former cadet classmates tell by the time I'm eligible the war'll be over. If it wasn't for this greencard issue, I'd be an Army E-4 in MOS 11M or 19K somewhere in Iraq or Afghanistan by now. Can you please clarify the recruiting rules for people already here on NON-IMMIGRANT, TEMPORARY VISAs, such as people on H-1(college graduate), H-2 (work not requiring a degree), H-3 (trainee) and F-1 (student) visas? Perhaps bringing this topic up will shed some light on this area and perhaps preclude the need for other people in the same situation to keep asking redundant questions. MS |
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That is not an accurate statement! I was born in Mexico City, and served for one year with the Military Intelligence Directorate of the Mexican Federal Army. I am a veteran of the U.S. Army with four years of service, fairly well decorated, and with a good service record and an honorable discharge.
I would think that it depends on which country's military you served with. Obviously, if you served in the armed forces of a country that is or has been historically hostile to the U.S.A, you'll be looked upon with distrust in the best of cases.... |
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Raff6240,
Siento que no has respondido a mi cuestion. Pienso que necesitas tener cuidado cuando vas a leer a mi "post", porque solamente yo era una cadete y nunca era un soldado de las Filipinas. (I feel you did not answer my question. You should it read more carefully,since I was only a cadet and never was a soldier in my country ) |
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That's OK, Enssantor, I was responding to another posting, but I believe this should apply to you as well. As long as you become a legal permanent resident, you should not have any trouble joining the U.S. military, assuming you qualify in every other way... |
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Raff6240,
Sorry about that. Still, which post are you responding to? Viva a Mexico! |
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Appreciate the sentiment, Enssantor, but my allegiance lies with the good ole' USA. God Bless America! and good luck in your endeavors... |
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Greetings,
I have no question, I've spent long hours, days and weeks exploring how can a Canadian join the U.S Military. So I know, that for me the chances are close to 0. I have no family in the States and currently live in Poland. I am writing this as a response to Kmac1's post on the previous page. He's also a Canadian and unable to join... I just hope someone important will see posts like this and think: "Something has to be done..." Because it's disturbing that so many devoted, enthusiastic and qualified people who would make great soldiers, people who would exchange almost everything for the oppertunity to live and fight for the US will not be able to make their dream come true. Let's face it, the Canadian military isn't the greatest in the world and if I want to fight people that are a threat to America, I want to do it in an army that counts. I want to help fight those damn terrorists, risk my life and devote it to this cause. But no, I can't because of some pretty darn stupid rules... |
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Hello Zephon,
I totally agree with you! It's just too bad that America doesn't accept foreigners who are not green cardholders- even those who are already there with legal status on temporary status. There was time not too long ago when the US Army recruited Irish soldiers fresh off the boat in the 1860s to fight in the Civil War. The same goes for Filipinos in Subic Naval base in the Philippines before 1992. It's too bad that America doesn't have a Foreign Legion like France, which would truly recognize America's heritage as a nation of immigrants and refugees and show the world that the US represents the best of the world- but of course many Americans are very suspicious of anything French-made... Why don't you join the Canadian Army? They may may not be as big, but at least they are a respectable military with a limited global reach- there are Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan! And they're not just peacekeepers! And Canadian soldiers have a proud history- WWI, WWII (Dunkirk, Dieppe, Hong Kong,Normandy), Korea. I suggest that if you are a Canadian citizen of resident go for it- and since you're very motivated try out for the Special Service Force (SSF)- Canada's version of the British SAS (special forces)! Just a suggestion from someone who's in similar position. |
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So, I'm from Canada and have lived here in the USA for 10 years -- I have a green card -- I just turned 40 and served with the Canadian Army Reserve for 6 years -- can I or can I NOT apply to join the California National Guard.
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From what I've read, the army reserves age limit is now 39 but I think if your just 1 year over the limit they'll let you in with a waiver.
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Hello there,
I would like to enlist in US army. I am not US citizen. I'm 22 years old I have some questions regarding enlistment. I tried get these following information at military.com and uscis.gov but unable to get therefore, I am looking for someone's help so that I could join one of world's famous, largest, most respected and deciplined force, the US Military force. 1/ I am an Asylee. I am Nepalese Citizen, US goverment granted me an Asylum Status about 7 months before. I am now in USA. 2/ USCIS provided me I-94 where states- "ASLUM STATUS GRANTED. INDEFINITELY PURSUANT TO SEC 208 OF THE I&N ACT ON" 3/ USCIS has given me a approval letter where stated that I have been granted Asylum in the US for an indefinite period. 4/ Social Security Adminstration has provide me SSN with no restriction and USCIS has given me no restricted work authorization. 5/ I have registerd my name on SSS (Selective Service System). 6/ I have already received US travel document. I will be eligiable for Adjustment of Status (for Green Card) with 4 months. 7/ I can not return my country for indifinate period. I am protected by US govenment. Meanwhile, I will evantually receive Green Card also (some year later). In above circumstations, may I be able to enlist in US Army (inflantry)? I never served in military service in my country. I really want to join in US army and want to serve for this new country. If you have any information I would be greatly appricated. If you are recruiter/ or know about INS laws and process to military serivce, please email me at mycity_busy@yahoo.com mycity_busy@yahoo.com Thanks, nboy P.S.I got the following information on this forum. If this is correct, we may not require green card to admin in US Army. Please check it our the website link and give me some more idea.
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Yeah well if I knew I was going to be in SSF or JTF2 then sure I'd join, but the chances are small. In the US if your a Marine then it's pretty much granted that you'll go fight at one part of your life, while the Canadian Forces don't do much (apart from afghanistan). Maybe I sound childish saying that I want to fight and stuff but lets face it, You don't join the army to make pushups and sit in the barracks, You join to do what you're trained to do, fight. Besides, while CF do the peacekeeping mission in afghanistan the US is doing all the dirty work in Iraq. I don't like the fact that CA isn't helping there... Another thing is that I think soldiers in the USA are a lot more respected then soldiers in Canada, but maybe that's not true... |
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I lawfuly entered the US and US government has protected me and granted me to stay in this country. I want to do something good for betterment of this country. Therefore I want to be soldiers. As I am also Asylee(Refusee). Give me clear idea, whether I can join US army or not. If not is there reason. I can't return my country any way. I have work permit, USCIS give me the indifinete stay status. Could you plese give some idea what is different between LPR and Asylee (Asylum)or Refusee for entering US army? Regards, Bhojpure |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 8858500:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by escoba77: high school diploma? we do the west african senior school certificate exam here in west africa. can i use this in enlisting,can i become a commisioned officer through promotion? thanks in advance. Look, READ all the other previous posts before posting. This question has come several times already. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A US COLLEGE DEGREE AND US CITIZENSHIP, YOU CAN'T BECOME A COMMISSIONED OFFICER IN THE US MILITARY. You might be able to ENLIST and become an enlisted man (non-officer) in any of the branches provided you immigrate legally here to the US and prove your school certificate is at least the equivalent of a US high school diploma. |
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Enssantor, do not use all caps in these forums, because they are the equivalent of shouting or screaming, and there's no need to be nasty... |
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my name is Diane white i am 34 and both my kids are dual nationals i was married to usaf man for 5 years , that was 5 years ago and now i am remarried to usa army man on active duty, i have ssn card and i am fit, and mentally fit and i am what i think a hard woman yet i am too old to join my military in England and yet i would be better than most they have, thats crazy hey, i am willing to do a tour in iraq and go to any where in the world, i would be posted, please could you send me reply to dianeslls@yahoo.com many thanks
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A highschool diploma would be the equivalence of 12 years in school with a valid graduation diploma. For some countries you might have to compensate and earn the diploma in the US.
There are no shortcuts, either way not haveing a diploma will be a great handicap while trying to pass the ASVAB, and qualifying for sertain MOS's. And if you do not speak at least good school english you might not be able to join. Its not the ffl where you can join and learn the langue as you train. You are expected to perform as well as any other american and the only language they will use is english. Its just the hard reality. |
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Hey, I understand that your from another country, but I would like to explain a few things to you. One, your english and grammar were far to good not be able to put together coherent sentences. You had zero spelling mistakes, zero punctuation errors and yet when I read your post, I can' t make sense out of any of it. I have altered your post, not only for the reason that I could not understand it, but also because of the links you posted.
Uconn This message has been edited. Last edited by: <uconndogg>, |
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im currently living in the US with a student visa but i have a stepdad which is a born citizen of US and my mom is a permanent resident.
here are my questions -is the student visa equivalent to the green card in one way or another? -it will take me approx. 6 years to complete my prep school and university.and will i get my citizenship by then? please answer these questions for me.i dont know where else to ask. your efforts are greatly appreciated. thank you. |
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My situation was similar to yours. My mother was an American citizen, but I was born abroad. By the time she tried to claim me as her relative for permanent resident status, I was already over 18, which meant I would have to wait abroad for the process to take place. I did come over with a student visa in the meantime. A student visa has nothing to do with being able to work and stay permanently in the U.S., so don't get in trouble by doing the wrong thing. I waited five years for my legal resident status, (3 of those years abroad, so as not to overstay my student visa). As soon as I became a resident, I joined the Army, and five years later was able to finally become a U.S. citizen, (the happiest day of my life). Nowadays, servicemembers who are not citizens do not have to wait that long, though... |
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I have a quetions, i have decided to join the army, i already aced my asvab, but i dotn have enough college credits, also i lost my green card(not a citizen)..but i do know my alien number, and iam applying for a new card..which is taking some time...does it really require a 20 plus college credit.
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Me Aagain,
I went to a out of the country high school..does it matter, if i didnt attend high school here? |
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First, I want to thank all the volunteers who are assisting here. I have read as much of the posts as I can and it is amazing how much time and patience you expend here.
If you already answered this question, please accept my apologies. => I am helping a non-citizen (here under a student visa). He wants to take the ASVAB. Do you know if he can take it as a non-citizen? Thanks! |
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hello
am Olajide from Nigeria, i want to join the military and become a soldier cos i like been one and trained please tell me how i can do this and how i can contact the school. Thanks |
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Dear Sir,
I am a cameroonian and i really want to join the us army.So, sir,how do you help me since i don't have a nationality and presently i am base in Cameroon. |
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I am Njume ernest base in cameroon and interested in the us military. Sir,i wish to know how i could jion this core.reply me through ernestomorientez@yahoo.com
i really need your sopport and favour since i am still in my country. |
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Read the first post in this topic"!!
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CAN ANYONE HELP......I AM 26 CURRENTLY A LANCE COPORAL IN THE BRITISH ARMY AND I WANT TO TRANSFER TO THE US MARINES IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT
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HI CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME AT ALL,I AM 26 AND CURRENTLY SERVING IN THE BRITISH ARMY AS AN INFANTRY SOLDIER AS A LANCE COPORAL I WANT TO TRANSFER TO THE US MARINES IS THIS AT ALL POSSIBLE
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If you want a shot at joining the US military you need a green card(or permanent residence).
If you have relatives with permanent recidense or citizenship they might be able to sponsor you for a green card. Or if your married to a US citizen they can sponsor you. Otherwise your pretty mutch *****ed, and thats the simple truth. |
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Ok lets see if i get this straight, Im neither a resident or citizen, i came to the US with a VISA 4 years ago, Im now 18. Does this mean im screwed or is there a way i can still join the Army?
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Are your parents registerd aliens with permits? What kind of visa did you have 4 years ago? |
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A visiting VISA and No. My mom and i did however send $1000 each in money order to the Department of Homeland Security about a few months ago through one of thoses organisations that help immigrants get there social and green card. Haven't heard any from them yet tho.
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LL. You might have been taken.
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Then the only legal way i know of is applying for a diversity visa, the last day to apply was last december, and the answers are to be expected june-july. You mean you have been going to US schools for 4 years without a valid Visa? You also need a legit HS diploma to enlist. |
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hi guys just in the process of getting everything sorted and going to talk with the recruiter...
just have a question that someone might be able to help me with. Im looking to join the marines but the MOS i want to join 'ATC' requires secret security clearance Any one know if conditional residents are granted that clearance? Any info would be great Matt |
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im am a south african i have never been in military forces before, i;m now working in englans asa chef. i have seven months to go before my visa experies. i wud like tojoin the us army but have no idea where to begin.
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I joined the visa lottery and expect to see some results this summer - hopefully positive results. The question is, I live in Finland and if I wanted to join the US army would I have to rent/buy a house from the United States before I can join the army or is it enough to have just the Green Card?
I was just thinking that it'd be kinda ludicrous to get the visa, move to the US, rent a house and the join the army where you don't even really need to have a house of your own. It'd be a lot simplier if I could just join the military once I get the visa. Also - are there any requirements concerning eye sight? I have to wear glasses but other than that - my vision is normal. I understood that you can't join the Air Force if you have a bad eye sight but howabout the Army? |
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Hello all. I am an 18 yr old non-citizen who wish to enlist in the world's finest navy. The closest recruiting office is about 2 hrs away so I am very happy I found this site. I have a green card so I know I am eligible to join the US Navy. My first question is if I am eligible for an enlistment contract which lasts longer than 4 yr active (and 4 in reserve).
Besides serving in the world's finest navy, I am also very interested in the Navy College Fund. Unfortunately, this program is only available if you extend your enlistment contract for an extra year of active duty. My second question is whether a non-citizen can apply for this program. Thank you so much for your help and God Bless America. |
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I find it a bit ridiculous that I, being a Canadian, cannot recieve a Green Card directly from the army.
What are the most common ways of obtaining a card? Through marriage and work? I'm not getting married for a card, however I'm willing to find a US employer who needs my skills. If a US company needs certain skills which they can't find in the States, they are allowed to hire foreign workers, who in turn are given green cards for full time employment. Am I right? If that is the case, Considering the fact that the US army is not hitting recruitment numbers, you'd think that I would fall under the category of 'outside skills required'. I could see the army being paranoid by handing out green cards to people in the East, but Canada? It seems like useless loop jumping, which I could easily cheat in order to overcome. I'm could find an employer in the states and send them a resume with the objective clearly printed on the top "I'm seeking a green card for entrance into the US army, please hire me" If I send off enough, I'm sure some one would be interested. And if all else fails, I'll marry a southern bell. But in the end what does it change? I would only go to the US if I could join the army. I would not want to live or work full time in the states. Army pay is crap and I'm already halfway through my degree so I'm not going to need financial assistance. I'm willing to join the US forces and help them in any way I can. Yet In order to do this, I must some how find a job, which is totally irrelevant to basic training etc, or marry a women. I would not bother join the US military, but unfortunately the Canadian army is substandard. My government is hell bent on emasculating it's male civilians by throwing the burden of defense on the US military. By joining the US army, I would feel like I am protecting my home country, in my own little way. There should be some sort of understanding between Canada and the US. I find the bureaucratic hurdle very frustrating and it's putting me off from applying. I would not live nor work in the states, but simply respond when a call to arms is issued. |
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Hey there I just wanted to say that I am a canadian but I lived here all my life my mother is american but they wont give me citizen ship but I am pretty much a legal resident they made join up under selective service and I dont want any schooling and I dont have my high school diploma.my first question is why do yo need a high school diploma to join.I said I would go to the front.And will they ever sart exepting any like they did in world war 2
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I'd assume the army is looking for a certain level of intelligence in it's soldiers. A HS diploma is not much, but it services as a good minimum requirement.
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Well there plenty of imtellegent peaple without a hihg school diploma.You would think that they would exept peaple without it for thr front jobs and residence peaple im canadian but im a residence and I cant join.Now I think thats a big problem.My mom is american I can work here but I cant join.
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Hey Wannabe Soldier,
A High School diploma or a GED is the minimum requirement! Any army of any nation expects a certain standard of its recruits- whether mental or physical. If I were you, I would work towards getting a diploma- it doesn't matter how old you are if you dropped out a long time ago since you can always work for a GED. This is better than just sitting on your *** and complaining. Being ONLY physically qualified is no good, since you have to have a basic education, especially if you want get promoted and go to a new MOS that may require some higher math course like Calculus or a science like Chemistry. There's no way around it. If you just wanna complain, you should just go back to Canada and see if the Canadian Army will take you, but I doubt it. |
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good day to you, sir... im a south african male, living in the UK. i havent served as of yet. could you possably help me with some info onto how to get my green card. am i able to get one? all i want to do is go to the army. please help.. thx 4 your time..
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So that means, I if I go to the US Embassy and ask for a green card I can go to the recruiter's office right after? Or do I have to go to the recruiter first, so the embassy sees I would like to join the mititary and need the green card for that.
So after I got my creen card and joined the military I can apply for citizenship? Or do have to do that earlier when I apply for the green card? |
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I'm foreigner(I can't speak English very well.Sorry
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Go To Google(uscis/gov.)they are open for all questions. A. B.
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Hello all. I'm a Filipino citizen and very much interested in joining the military. I've been searching around the net and found this in a social security policy site about Filipinos enlisting. Can someone please explain why this goes against what everyone is saying? Maybe an old policy?
http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203430 "6. Philippine Citizen in U.S. Military Status: Nonimmigrant Philippine citizens may enlist in a U.S. military service. (The Department of Defense uses the SSN as the military service number.) They may apply for replacement SSN cards when stationed in the U.S. If the alien does not have INS documentation, he/she is issued a nonwork SSN card. These undocumented aliens may be lawfully present in the U.S. because of assignment to a U.S. military facility. Required evidence: Evidence of current active duty with a U.S. military service; preferably a U.S. military ID card, and a documentation of a valid nonwork reason (see RM 00203.510). Process as: Application for a non-work SSN card" |
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Hi, I am a resident on a H4 visa, which is dependant on my father (investor) who can work and own property. I do not have a greencard and I am not able to work on the US. I have been in the US for 5 years, and I want to know if I can join the military?
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i'm sorry but the us army doesnot provide information or sponsore people to the us to join the army.
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But you're not a legal permanent resident? If you were a permanent resident you could apply for a citizenship (the limit is five years). |
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Hello everybody! I am new here but read every word and I am wondering why so much questions get asked so often. Why don´t you read what other people have written before you write down something. To most of the question you can find the answers at the recruiting website so you don´t need to ask.
Especialy for ALEJOGONZ. Read what others have written before you ask anything. I think if someone is really intersted in joining the US military then they know how to do it. I am a German girl who also wants to join the US Army and I know what´s to do for that. Right now I am trying to get a greencard and if I get it, I will go to the States and will work there as nanny for a year or two and take some college courses to better my English before I will take the ASVAB; because the better your scores are the better are your chances to get a job in the military. Take care and God bless! Anna K. Eltges! |
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Exactly. It must be a bit of annoying to be forced to answer the same questions over and over again when, with just a bit of effort, you could just browse through the forum and the website to get your answers. |
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Hi all, My name's Jill. I came to U.S. when I was 11yrs but is only getting my GC next month due to some legal complications. In another words, I'm really raised in US. I have a bachelor's and a master's degree from a well known US college. I know that I can't join the military as an officer because I'm not a citizen on paper. My question is that if I join as enlisted, when can I get my citizenship and become an officer? Thanks in advance.
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Citizenship is given (usually) after two years of active service. Just make sure that you start the paperwork process in time (in other words - asap). Also, if you have been a legal permanent resident for more than five years, you can apply for a citizenship right now. |
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not sure if anyone every answered you or not. just browsing and caught your post. i crossed this path already ... if you aren't a 'us citizen' you aparently cannot get a clearance. that is what several members here told me, a recruiter and a lawyer. i was told to find a different mos or ... wait til you are citizen. hopefully all works out for you! "we sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" ... George Orwell |
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[/QUOTE] Yes you are able to enlist in the US Army. Dunno about the AF - some jobs require a certain kind of security clearance which is not given to foreigners. Prior military service is not a problem assuming you're not an active duty soldier in some foreign army. |
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Originally posted by 9982734: Is this really true? I've done my military service (12 months) as a conscript in the Finnish military. I'm currently in my country's army reserve. Am I able to enlist in the U.S. armed forces? I've been surfing the websites of Navy and Army but I didn't come across anything like quoted above. [/QUOTE] Yes you are able to enlist in the US Army. Dunno about the AF - some jobs require a certain kind of security clearance which is not given to foreigners. Prior military service is not a problem assuming you're not an active duty soldier in some foreign army. Are you absolutely sure concerning this matter because this forum has only had articles stating the contrary. I did though have once a buddy from Spain who decided through impulse and certain ideological values to fly off to the States and enlist himself without any prior information. He was on a normal tourist visa and had no parential neither any other visas or a Green card.Stayed with friends and did'nt buy false doc's. He was recruited just like that after a couple of weeks. Can this happen to me if I also tried it out or would I by greater chance be extradited from U.S. soil? I have read the other articles but maybe somewhere out there exists a loophole. I'm a German national, so do you also know if their is any special accord i.e. flexible manners that I could slide into the U.S. armed forces due to the solid and stable frienship between these two countries? Would really appreciate the invaluable information. |
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The following quotes are from this topic: "we have people in the US Army that were in foreign Armies." "Yup, I know a few Germans who served at the German Armed Forces. They joined the US Army a couple of years ago." "It dose not matter if you have served in another military. As long as you havent done anything stupied like getting arrested you are good to go."
No non-hostile country gets any special treatment. Have you got a university degree or a bachelor's degree? If you have then you're able to get a Green Card. If not, too bad you just missed the lottery (ended in December - next one begins in fall 2006). There are American military bases and such in Germany. An American online pal recommended me to get in touch with them (I'm a Finn but they're the closest who can help me). Also, you could always contact the US embassy in Berlin and ask if there's any way you could get a Green Card IF you are willing to join the army. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Mikko_S, |
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Sorry unconndogg but you are mistaken. I am not an American citizen and I am an army nurse corps officer. It clearly states on the army's web site that an officer must be a citizen OR hold a permant visa. You can see it here: http://www.goarmy.com/amedd/nurse/corps_specialties_requir.jsp
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How did you become an officer? ROTC? A military academy? OTS? Also, I'd appreciate if ALL those who are (or were) in the US military as non-citizens could tell all kinds of details about how they joined and how long did the whole immigration/enlistment process took. It's a shame that there seems to be no consensus at all. Different non-citizens from different backgrounds have been able to join the US military by different means. |
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can i join in military even though am not u.s citizen??
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Did you even bother to read the first post of this topic? |
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BUT WHAT IF YOU ONLY WANT TO SERVE AS A SOLDIER AND HAVE NO WISH OR DESIRE TO WORK OUTWITH THIS DISCIPLINE IN ORDER TO GAIN A GREEN CARD SO IN TURN ONE CAN SERVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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hello i have a question.
I am 18 years old , i was born in Mexico but i was adopted by a Citizen of the US when i was 16, and whe apply for I-485 card and a work permit while the I-485 is in process , and i would like to know if I can join the army with the work Permit , while my permanent residency is in process. Or can the military speed things up so i can get the Permanent Resident card faster so i can enlist.. |
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Posted Mon 23 May 2005 06:52 What kind of help do you people want? We can not simply send you a plane ticket and say ok come on over... You need to be a US citizen or a permanent resident of the US in order to join the military here... Good Luck..." Funny isn't it? Well what about those who can buy a plane tickets? I had read a lot of forums about joining the army but every where is the same story "must be a US-citizen or permanent resident". In my case I want to join the USMC not because after some time i get the US-citizen and coul liwe and do what i want, but because i like discipline, army. You could say join your country army-you get almost the same. well i could, but i dont think that i get see or can participate in that action that US soldiers do. You say that rescruiter can't help get the green card but almost every one who is writing here is not asking for green card, they all (including me) ask for your help to join the army. I read many storys about the guys who joined army with help of his recruiter so i assume that there is a little possibility... About green card - many people think that it is a simple lottery, but it isn't. You apply and if you lucky you get a letter that you been chosen, then you have to collect a lot of papers (education documents, healt and many more) after that you will go for a talk to the nearest US embassy and if you lucky, the person which talked with you say that you have a green card. Lottery is made once in a year and chance of winning is very low. As many say come and talk to recruiter but not every one can do this, because of imingration laws. If you dont have visa you can't enter the US. If you will be caugh without visa (illegal immigrant) then they departure you with no right to come back to US. So it is hopeless situation, all you need just believe in miracle? I know that there is possibility to join russian army if you are non-russian citezen. After 3 or more year you can apply for citezenchip. Why don't the US do the same for those who want to serve in their military? You could save a lot of your guys (who has born in US and now are fighting in other country). The last chance for me (and others who want to serve in US army) is such forums and people who really want to help, not just post a simple answer "need to be a US citizen or a permanent resident of the US", there always is other way... So if anyone can help join USMC for such peoples like me (non-US citizen,22 years, living in europe also haven't served in any army) then write bvytasf@yahoo.com That's all for now... |
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I'm a canadian citizen, I've taken aircraft structures and am almost finished aircraft maintenance engineering would I still be able to join the US Army to work on helicopters?
Or would I have to get a visa and green card first? please contact me at dlaloge@hotmail.com |
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hey i live in Canada im 18 and i want to join the marines the Canadian forces doenst apeal to me i dont have citezen ship in the u.s and i was wondering what i would have to do before i can joint the marines if i have to go throught the immigration process first or can i joiin up before im a full citezen???
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hey i was wondering if people living in other countrys can get the maine package i saw on t.v throught the mail or if i can talk to a recruiter more directly possibly through msn ??my addys matt_stallion_69@hotmail.com thanks!!!
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Listen, I don't know what you think of us, but we aren't some kind of gods, sitting here on top and deciding people's fates. We're soldiers/airmen who have had opportunity to serve in the US military. We do NOT set up the requirements. Those are set up by US government as deemed necessary. We can just provide few, if any, advices to those people who have unique situations. We understand that people want to join US military not for the green card's sake, but to proudly serve among our ranks... This effort is greatly appreciated! But rules are still RULES. Again, there's nothing we can do about those rules. Certain things MUST be met before anything can be done. |
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That's why the US should consider having its own Foreign Legion. But of course US taxpayers won't pay for it and of course there's the loyalty issue regarding foreigners in such a US Foreign Legion.
Maybe it's because the "Foreign Legion" concept is French, which is the reason why US lawmakers won't take it seriously, even if such figures as Max Boot suggested it. |
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The non citizen post is a great one to leave at the top of the page, and answers many of the questions I get on a daily basis. I will check periodically, to ensure the USAF isn't the only one answering questions anymore. I am a real live Army Recruiter and will help out where possible. To add to your post, former members of another country's military are eligible for enlistment in the US Army as long as they can meet the remainder of the basic enlistment criteria.
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in order for you to be eligible for enlistment in the US Army, your adoption must have been legal and you must meet the other requirements set for enlistment. Take a certified copy of the final court order approving the adoption and your birth certificate and social security card to a local US Army recruiter for evaluation. You should be eligible based on citizenship derived through adoption.
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The only exception to the citizenship officer rule is for qualified medical professionals
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1)Must be a citizen or a permanent resident (=Green Card) 2)Must write better English 3)The USMC won't help you become a permanent resident. |
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thats false info, thats called social security |
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And I think you're wrong or misunderstood something. |
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Hello there
Do you know a german member belongs to the us army? |
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According to this topic - yes (dunno if anyone knows personally). Just keep reading |
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Hi, I'm a 25 year old guy, who came to the United States on a visitor visa. I served in Iraq about 6 months ago supporting "operation Iraqi freedom" for a year. I came to the U.S. without the intention on staying, but I would love to enlist in the U.S. military. Is there anything I can do??? My visitor visa expires in September 2006.
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks Albania |
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You mean you were in Iraq with the Albanian military? Only permanent residents (=Green Card holders) are eligible to join. Do you have any chance of applying for a permanent residency (through education, family or job)? |
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I have ever served as soldier in China.Can return to be in the United States?
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