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You have to have a greencard(legal immigrant visa)how you get a greencard is open to discussion. But you can not sign the contract without a greencard that spans over the time you want to enlist. |
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I was in BCT/AIT with a guy from the Belize Army and he had served there for 8 years. He had no problem getting to the ARNG. So there are ways to get in if you have served in another military.
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There is nothing stopping you from joining IF you are a registerd alien with a immigrant visa. But you are restricted in what jobs you might choose when you sign up, since you need a citizenship to get secret clearance. |
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respected sir,
i m vinamra s . mokashi frm india i want to join armed forces in us military . i was completed N.C.C. C certificate my education is 12th complete with 51 % plese help me sir yours faithfully vinamra S mokashi |
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Sorry we can't help you, you need to be a resident in the States.
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Hi,
thank you for your idea and all of your informations on joining the US force.I am a Liberian citizen ,24years old,first year in the university,and a musician.i have never been part of anyforce before.but my disire is to join the best force in the world.In this light,I do apply if it is timely to do for now.If I am on the road than thank you but if not than I need your help.I look forward to hearing from you. My name is Dahai Samuel Gbaa |
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What kind of help do you people want?
We can not simply send you a plane ticket and say ok come on over... You need to be a US citizen or a permanent resident of the US in order to join the military here... Good Luck... |
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Hi there,
I'm pretty sure its frustarting for you with a few repeat questions...(i reckon mine is one too) I'm moving to the US in 2 weeks on a K-1 (Fiance) visa and after the marriage i will be a conditional permanent resident, I have to apply for an Adjustment Of Status which takes around about a year to become a Permenant resident. I will have a Employment authorisation Document 3 months after the wedding (not a green card i don't think) I was just wondering whether i would have to wait to be a US citizen (3 years after being a permenant resident) to join the military or if i could join as a permanent resident (year after marriage)? Any info would be great Thanks and i think ur doing a great job on here Matt (Ex Royal Marine Commando BPT Reserve) |
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uhhh , I apologize I know that this questions is completely irrelevant to the topic that I am replying to, but I have no clue how to use this system yet. I was wondering my fiancee is looking to join the military. He is not 100% sure on what branch exactly yet. However he has had some problems in the past and has two O.U.I's on his record and I know that he had an entry level seperation from the marines I think 2 years ago. What are the chances of him getting accepted and which branch do you think he would have the most luck with. He is very searious about this , as much as I would perfer him not to be . If you don't think he has a chance is there any advice that you could give him to increase his chance for possible future acceptance?
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my names are Mofor Emmanuel Njiangye i am a Cameroonian of age 20 i am holder of a higher school diplome i wish to work as an army in your country i will be very happy to work in your army if i am recruited
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I know a guy who joined after his marriage to a american girl. I belive all you have to do is get all the paperwork done. Its not really always a matter of haveing a green card, all you have to have is a permanent resident visa and your work permit, its pretty mutch the same permits just have different names. I belive you will be good to go when all the paperwork is done. |
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I am sorry to say that you will have to first apply and recive a green card to be able to go any further. http://www.dvlottery.state.gov/ |
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ok, I'm canadian, and I want to join the marines as an officer, so I have to get citizenship before I can do so? ( just making sure)
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Yes!
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i'm a canadian citizen and would like to become an officer in the U.S. Marines. How would i go about getting U.S. citizenship?
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To whom it may concern?
FIRSTLY?I WOULD LIKE TO THAT THE WONDERFUL GOD FOR GIVINGME A OPPROTUINTY TO WRITE TO YOU,AND IT'S AMAZING TO READ ABOUT THE COMMENTS FROM YOU GUYS WHEN IT IS RELYED BACK TO US?THIS IS BECAUSE WHEN I READ IT,IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENCE TO ME FOR THE LAST THING THAT WAS ON MY MIND WAS TO TRY TO BE A CITIZEN,I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THAT,ALL I WANTED IS TO EXPAND MY EXPERIENCE?SINCE IN MY COUNTRY FITNESS IN THE NUMBER ONE DRILL BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GENERAL KNOWLEDGE?I GUESS WE STILL GOT TO LEARNT?I'M JUST A YOUNR ANERGENIC MALE WHO ALWAYS DREAM OF BIENG A SOLDIER AND NOW I AM SERVING HERE IN IRAQ FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE KEEPING AND ALSO FOR THE PROTECTION OF YOUR SOLDIER[US ARMY SOLDIERS]HERE IN IRAQ AND THIS IS WHAT I GET?WELL THAT IS FINE WITH ME BUT I KNOW THE GREAT ALMIGHTY YAHWEH WILL PROVIDE FOR HE IS MY PROVIDER....GOD BLESS YOU GUYS AND GOD BLESS AMERICA AND FIJI....FOR WE ARE ONE IN THE SIGHT OF THE WONDERFUL GOD. THANK YOU SIR/MEDAM. YOUR SPIRITUAL SOLDIER TO BE... ALIPATE JUNIOR |
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I think this was the best messages I have read here for a while, thanks for your message, it means a lot, God Bless you too... |
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I AM A GHANAIAN AND I WANT TO JOIN THE U.S ARMY BUT I DON'T HAVE A GREEN CARE,I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR ME TO JOIN THE U.S MILITARY BCOS, I WANT TO JOIN THE U.S ARMY SO BADLY.
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The only thing you can do is to get a highschool diploma(or similar), and apply for a greencard. Then just hope for the best. |
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i am a canadian citizen and like other people i want to become an officer in the U.S. Marines. can someone tell me wat i have to do to make this dream/goal happen.
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You have to be a US Citizen to become an officer, that would be your main problem. |
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I am an active duty Army Recruiter and just as a reminder if you have a double citizenship (U.S. and another country) you have to quit the other county citizenship.
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Here is a question for you Sgt. Sometimes countries don't want to kick you out of their citizenship, even though you turn in an renunciation application. (just in my case) At this time, you don't have much choice. When you become a US citizen you take the oath and you say I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen I hope that should be enough to obtain a clearance. |
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I do not know how it will work, talk to your recruiter he can find out more on how the army will go about it. I have never ran in that situation with an applicant. You can find the policy on the Army Reg 601-210 (latest edition 16 may 05) here is an exerpt. 2–4. Citizenship a. Applicant is eligible for enlistment if any of the following applies: e. Army policy prohibits applicants enlisting into the RA/AR who hold dual citizenship with the United States and another country. Persons must renounce citizenship of other country in order to enlist in RA/AR. Sorry if I could not be of much help on this one. |
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I just thought about something Bushmaster, as you put it when you take the oath you renounce the other citizenship. This applies mostly to people that are born in the U.S. but their parents are from other countries theirfore getting the other citizenship also.
Like I said I have not run in this situation and the recruiter can ask the security interviewr and find out more. |
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Thanks Sgt. I believe it applies to everyone since I know that US government does not recognize one's foreign citizenship. In government's eyes that person is a US citizen only. However if the person insists on having ties with the other country then it is a security risk, I can not renounce my citizenship from where I was born for years, because they want me to go back and do their military service, I am in the US Army and I have no intention to have ties with any other foreign government. Even to get a visa. I know that pilot applicants need a secret clearance so I will talk to S2 on post.
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What do the or on the first point mean. Where it says ''greencard or stamped I-94''. On the uscis hompage says that a I-94 is a Arrival-Departure Record. Do you have to been in the us before to be able to join the military without a greencrad? |
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You cannot enlist without a greencard. |
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I AM A YOUNG MAN OF AGE 20 FROM THE CENTRAL AFRCAN REPUBLIC OF CAMEROON.I AM INTERESTED IN JOINING THE U.S AIR FORCE BUT TO NO AVAIL AND AM VERY INTERESTED IN JOING PLEASE WHAT SHOULD I DO?
AND I WOULD LIKE TOU TO COMTACT THE AMERICAN EMBASSY HERE IN CAMEROON YAOUNDE FOR ME. PLEASE REPLY ME TO MILLITARYMAN_AIRFORCE@YAHOO.CO.UK |
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I want to join as either enlisted the Navy or the Army as a Warrant Officer. (active duty) but I'm prior service army (4 years) and I was a 13F. RE code is 1, I'm 25, and already took the asvab a couple of days ago. Navy is telling me now that they aren't taking prior service unless I was in intelligence before. this is not true. Does anyone know what the process is? Do I have to put in a packet to "ask" to be put into the navy? How long will it take to know if I'm accepted into the WO mos or not after I pass all my tests?
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Are you a non-citizen? |
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Navy and Air Force are downsizing they are not going to take PS unless they have a critical skill that they need.
As a matter of fact the Navy and Air force have the Blue to Green program, it lets enlisted and officers get out before their ets in order to join the Army. |
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are you sure about it ???? where can i find more info about it? |
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What info are you looking for? |
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stang, The Blue to Green Program DOES NOT let people out early to join the Army. It does allow Sailors and Airman to start processing prior to getting out but they still have to finish their Active obligation with the Navy or AF first. |
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The thing is I would like to join Army but my problem is I was granted asylum here and to get my Green card gonna take me years and years. My recruit told me to get married (just like that), but Im not sure if its going to expedite a process and if I would get married will i be able to join right away or I have to wait for 1-2 years again. Im totally confused. |
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Getting married for a "green card" is illegal. Also, it's not an automatic ticket for a green card either.
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If you have someone you are together in a good faith relationship yes you can marry and get a greencard, however that will be around a year before you get your greencard. Also you will have to demonstrate that you married for good faith. Marrying just for the green card, you will end up getting deported.
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where is no point for me to get married just because of GC,'cause i have a status here. I was granted asylum and im gonna get GC anyway if i get married or not. I believe my recruiter just adviced it to me to expedite a process. I do have a relationship with somebody who has citizenship, but im not interested in breaking law. Thank you for your advices and attantion. |
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I have to point out that he did not get married to get a green card. He choose a military career because he wanted to do something for his new country. Anyway, what you can do is to talk to someone at a immigration office, I am pretty sure they can help you. |
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I already did acctually my GC in process so i have to wait a little bit and i DONT need to get married to get it!!!! it was just a question. i looked at ur profile. Maybe thats funny but im going to do the same and get my MBA in political science. which school r u going to? As soon im gonna get done with my papers i'll join military. |
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you are correct, my bad. |
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Thats great man! I am planning on almost finish a degree here at the University of Stockholm(on second year), but ill save the credits for a degree at a US college or University. Well se what i can work out. I am waiting for papers on my gc process, i am not to worried thoug, i have time to wait while i study. Though there is a good chanse i will get it this summer. I am also saveing cash for a plane ticket, time spent in DEP, etc. Cant wait to start a new life in the US Army  |
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I have a question excuse me if it's out of the topic i have an international degree i was told that it has to be evaluated and accredited and my recruiter is having hard time doing it. What should i do. I got my bachelor's degree and my transcripts in english and i don't know why i have to go through this.
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go on site WES.org world education services. they will evaluate your diplom. you will need transcripts of your courses form your native language into english, copy of all cousers with hours in ur language, official latter from your university reconfirming that you took certain courses and blah blah blah and thats it if its gonna take about a week or so. you can find all info on the site. good luck PS i already evaluated mine, beside that if you will ever would decided to go to collage in US that the first thing you'll need. |
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thats nice. what are you planning to do in army? i mean job |
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Either 91w or ill just go 11b(depends when i can start training duty station etc), might as well jump out of airplanes and do things like that while i am still young |
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I am currently serving in the Irish army but will be leaving soon and wish to join the Marine Corp i have heard if i enter the country on a 90 day visitor visa with £10,000 in my bank account i will be able to go so far with an application and at the end of the 90 days the £10,000 will prove I am able to finance myself and seeking employment in the armed forces and able to continue my application is this true?
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No. The purpse of your visa is to be a visitor. Not someone seeking employment. If you want to be employed in the US get a work visa.
You cannot seek employment in the Armed Forces without being a resident. |
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trying to get the ph. number for a local recriuter for illinois
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for which branch? check web sites. goarmy.com and etc there is sucha s thinga s locate ur recruiter g luck |
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I have a green card, conditional permanent residence based on marriage and I am in the process of enlistement.
however, i've been to the courthouse for the final meeting for a leggaly separation from my spouse and I am wonderring if I am still elligible for enrolement?? I have not yet received the letter from the judge that we are now leggaly separated but I might before the passing of a week, when I am programmed for meps. is there anything I can do?I have been spending 7 months of my life with this and realy wish to continue with my enlistment. thank yuo!! |
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Drop me an email sometime, I may be able to help you, I am just too busy right this moment!
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on the other note, not just US citizens can join the military. US nationals can enlist without green card. US Nationals are citizens of some US affiliated Nations, mostly found in the pacific islands
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hello. my name is chris i am 17 and am currently living in england i was born here BUT i am a dual citizen. do i have the right to join the military in the US? if so how do i get in touch with a recruiter?pukemonkey16@hotmail.com
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[/QUOTE] What exactly did you mean by saying "valid amount of time left in order for you to complete an enlistment"? My green card is conditional. However, in one year I will have to go to the INS to renew it. One more year after that I'll be able to apply for US citizenship... Am I eligible to join any military branch reserve now? |
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That means that your Visa have to be valid for the period you sign up for. If you want to sign a 4 year contract your Visa have to be valid for another 4 years. |
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I've been doing some research on behalf of my girlfriend (who wants to enlist). I found this and thought it might be useful to some of you:
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/MilitaryBrochurev7.htm Best, J |
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The Army NAtional Guard has changed this for recruiters. You no longer need to be a citizen to serve more than 8 years so long as you are in a non security clearance MOS. |
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My reg has nothing about serving in another country far as I know....will research further |
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Looked this one up. Must renounce dual citizenship and be solely american citizen. You can call 1-800-Go Guard to contact a recruiter in your area. If overseas, call the number and give them city, state. If still does not work email me. SSG Weems NCARNG Recruiter |
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thank you for the info  |
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I enlisted and went to nam. I went back to my own country and got drafted thus I served also here! This is a fact black and white signed by a Congressman! I enjoyed both services.Only Was.has the answer why should I worry I fullfilled my dutie in both countries and proud of it except on veterans day I do get reminded so I will never forget this. A.B.
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I AM OPAREARHIN FROM W/AFRICA AND WILL LIKE TO DISCUSE THIS WITH YOU I WANT OF YOU SAYING CITIZINGS AM GHANA AND I WANT TO JOIN THE NAVY SO WHAT CAN I DO
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Hey there I have a question that has been bugging me.I am currently serving in the New Zealand Army. Im looking at immigrating to the states at the end of 2006. When i leave the NZ Army I will be requrired to serve a 5 year call back period in which basically means that in the unlikely event that New Zealand goes to war I can be called back.
My question is can the 5 year call back period affect my chances of joining the US Army |
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I don't think it woud affect your chances. But what happens if they call you back? You pack and leave? Then you will be in trouble. I am supposed to do my mandatory military duty in my birth country also, I had postponed it when I was 19, 20 and 21 years old with some college, 22 I moved to US and never looked back, I would be arrested if I go back and drafted into service there, but I won't, it was not a problem when joining the US military. Yours won't be either. |
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Hey Bushmaster thanks for giving me the answer to that. I dont think that I will be called back to my country's army because my country's government does not support the conflict in Iraq or Afghanistan....come to think of it anywhere that the United States is involved. Once again thanks alot that has really made my day   |
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I wish i had though of movein to the states before i was drafted and served in my country a few years. But on the oher hand i know exactlly what i am getting myself in to now.
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No question here...just want to get something off my chest.
As a Canadian, perhaps what makes enrollment policy in the US Military so frustrating is our access to U.S. media. On a seemingly daily basis, we witness reports and stories about the poor Marine going back for his third tour in Iraq, or the Army Reserve unit that was required to stay for additional weeks or months following their year long service. We hear stories of a manpower crisis in the US Army, and how recruiting numbers are off target...again. The latest story of the recruiting age apparently being raised to 42! So desperate is the situation, that Army recruiters have been making the rounds at Canadian Indian Reserves for recruits! (Special exemption for North American Natives it seems) And yet... As a Canadian with prior military service (including graduation from the US Army Ranger Course), I have felt the calling. Though I may be in the minority in Canada -and increasingly in the US also- I believe the fight in Iraq is rightous and for the common good of all mankind. I believe, WMD or not, genocide was occuring in Iraq, and that it was a cancer in this world. I believe that terrorists from foreign nations that are fighting (and dying) in Iraq are not doing so in other parts of the world, including my neighborhood. To that end, I recently concluded that I could no longer stand idle. My military cousins to the south were engaged in a war on my behalf, and were not receiving the level of support that they should. No soldier should have to spend two tours in a war zone when millions of his peers were living the good life back in North America, oblivious to the hardships and sacrifices made on their behalf. I decided that I would volunteer for a two or three year enlistment in the US Infantry. To enable a burned out soldier the ability to stay at home with his young family, I would volunteer in his place, and spend six months or a year of my life fighting for the cause (or guarding some godforsaken outpost)in Iraq. But no. Despite the recruiting and manpower crisis, the army was unable to process my application. As a born and bred Canadian, despite my motivations and experience, I was ineligible to serve. It seemed I did not qualify for resident status: 1. As a Canadian, I am not eligible for the 'green card lottery'. 2. Although I am educated and have experience, my background is not in a 'profession' that is desired. 3. I do not have one million dollars in which to start a business. 4. I do not have an opportunity in the US for a job in which an American cannot fill. 5. I have not married an American citizen. It seems ironic that the US would grant green card status to, say, Steve Nash or Avril Lavigne, both of whom thought it important enough to speak out against US foreign policy prior to the war in Iraq, but not to someone such as myself. During my investigation process, which included a trip to L.A. and speaking with immigration lawyers and 'consultants', I determined that there were illicit ways in which to gain a 'green card'. However, I decided that if I were to volunteer, I would go through the front door only. In summary, I believe there are hundreds, if not thousands, of potential recruits just like me. The government policy of allowing foreign nationals to join the military, but only after gaining entry into the country for another reason, is misguided and shortsighted. It is a case of politics trumping practicality and reasonableness. I shall therefore sit off on the sidelines and pray for the best of outcomes in Iraq. Should there ever be a policy change, I shall be found front and centre. The inscription on the Peace Arch monument in Blaine, Washington reads "Children of a Common Mother". I shall sign off as -Brother in waiting- |
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You are one of the rare kind... good to have you here.
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That was nice said. Pretty much all I feel and think, but I have newer served.I wish there were other requirments. Iam an swedish national and really wish to serve in the Usa but it's hard to get a greencard through the lottery. And dont know if I should give up?! |
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Don't give up, that is all I can say, I never did and after waiting for years, ended up in the US where I wanted to be... |
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Hi I would like to know how do you go about getting in the Addmisrtive department
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Hello. I'm interested in joining the USCG. I will be 28 years old next month. The age limit is upto 27 with the USCG. I can only do 5 push-ups. I feel I can meet other physical requirements after practicing, however, the reality of my push-ups is in the way before my decision on joining.
My nationality is Japanese. I obtained a LPR card in 2003. I have a re-entry permit to the U.S. now and am staying in Japan for now. I understand that I need to be a US citizen in order to promote to an officer. It looks like I never can be an officer from enlist if I join. I spent one year to try to go to a college in the US, however, I was scared after my low-wage unhealthy days and came back to my country. I really want to get a permanent job that I can afford education, housing, and retired life. So, I think the military can be a good idea. I want to work for goverment. In japan, age limit is very very low. And expensive to go to a college. I worry that I get people do not like me since Im japanese though. By the way, I have so much respect and am impressed that you support the same questions from aliens. That is heavenly sweet! But I think we need to read a little bit... Lots of respects for thoese at wars for other people but I do not want to go to wars.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 7700853, |
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PS I dont know if they welcome me. I want to protect the ocean enviroment because I love fish and marine sports. I'm so into the USCG's duty, however, I really do not like wars. Because I know what happens next lol.
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I am an Australian, my name is jay, I have never been in the Australian Army (or any other) not even the salvation Army will take me. Even though we have one of the largest coast lines in the world, if not arguably the largest coastline in the world (our land mass is roughly that of the u.s.a. but the u.s. coast line is only exposed on the east and west (america is much bigger) Europe is bigger, but none of these have to de3fend themselves alone) the us can defend its self, canada, south america, etc europe, russia, irelend, great brittem i mean. Wher as Australia is just one country, we ony have 22 million people spead out over this huge island nation we are a contenant like america africa etc. yet our navy is one of the smallest in the world, we are a rich country so we are able to make our tiny airforce, navy and army to be extremely well equiped and technologicaly advanced, our s.a.s. is mean, and we invented over the horizon radar and showed you guys how to use it in the opening stages of the IRAQ invasion and occupation. From a little town called pine gap. do a google earth search its cool. you can alsoo see area 51. lol any way you would think my military could over look the fact I went to prison for armed robbery, I was released six years ago, I havent even exceed the speed limit since being released. I did my time and I did well. I completed a bachelor of science degree whilst in there, and our IT boom is well and truly over here. So I want to join the army more than ever. but there is no way the want mne. They say they can only alloow persons of good charactor to join, which I understand, over here our people have been totally disarmed. It is vey difficult to get a gun here illigally, and even harder to get one legally. you have to be sqeeky clean and be a farmer or a registered sporting shooter at a club, even then you are only allowed a bolt action rifle, no semis or fully auto's, no semi pistols only 6 shot revolvers, and you have got to be so sqeeky clean to get them you will have trouble if you have even been done for drink drivinmg. So there is no way on earth the owant young white males running around with full carnal knowledge of a steyer bull pup, with three shot bursts, semi, fully switch. How ever The U.s. is different, evry man and his dog has some kind of fire arm. the picture portraid here is the sexy women in two piece bikkinni's sell fully automatic machine guns on tv commercials Is this tru, to any degree?!?!?! and aparently allow u.s. citezens to join even with records, or even as an alternative to prison. No such thing happens here. I wish it did, I would have joined in a heart beat. I am a highly multi skilled person with a high intelligence and hobbie level skills in chemistry, biology, physics, and many different areas of information technology, excllent electronic skills, I am an excellent shot with a high powered bolt action, dad use to have wwII 303 you use to have to aim a little to the left but I got real good with it. I hate the insurection of these muslim extremists in IRAQ, they are postponing IRAQ's libberation, the are prolonging the pain for all the good alah fearing people. The people who do not kill in the name of god, people whos heads are still in tact. I want this over and done with, so every soldier must count... Right? Well if any one knows how I can do this with out a u.s. green card, let me know, coz the u.s. army / military are here, they seem to be evry where, why cant one join fro0m trusted country from the coalition of the willing. duh prob coz your suppossed to join through your own country but my country has an army full of boy scoutts, and do gooders, admitadly our sas has the cream but the rumors we here about our infabtry makes them sound like a bunch of girls, I dont drink, I dont smoke, I keep fit, I dont do drugs. The u.s. seems to want to police the world, then it should recruit from the world, and then it can have a truly super army. I heard on our news that recruitment numbers are down in the u.s. well heres my email. I wint be coming back here. So if some one knows anything about this matter email me: jay@jayandkirsty.com
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Is it possible to apply for a green card before actually living in the US? Have you lived there before, and how are you going about getting a work permit? I'm asking because I'm planning on doing something very similar to what you're doing. I too study at the University of Stockholm, and when I've finished I want to move to the US and join either the Army or the Marines. The only friend I have yet to discussed this with says he doesn't think there are any non-citizen females in the US Military and that I should give it up. Well, I have no idea if that is true, but if there aren't any, I would love to be the first! |
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Hi, i am a 18 male from Finland and i want to join US Army.
I know all about the green card things and that, but whats bothering me is how to enter USA legaly. Right now i am a student in a High school and if i finish it will i be able to recive some kind of visa so i can move to USA, then recive a green card(i know it takes time) and then join US Military? |
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I am very interested in joining the US Marines after I graduate from high school in 2007. I am a "Canadian Citizen." My grandmother is an "American Citizen" currently residing in Cape Canaveral, Florida. My mother and father both have served in the Canadian Armed Forces for a combined total of 50 years between the both of them. I am not a stranger to "military life." I have investigated career options on your website but I have not found any information on how I would obtain information about joining the Marine Corps as a foreigner. Where can I find this information?????
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As recruiters PLEASE tell people the truth and don't say "you'll find out when you get there"
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Alright well heres a good one for you all how does a north american indian join if hes only 45 percent?
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I can't take the suspence! |
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Not because,Iam actually Non-U.S. Citizen.
I am appling this,for information about my travel document/Visa from the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services. Refering to my Contact Government Officials and Offices[T20050518005J].For travel Visa approval to resume free departure and arrival in the United States. As I have already submitted my information to apply for the approval of a travel Visa. I will again request from the http://uscis.gov/graphics/index.htm to consider as soon as possible to the agreement of my Concern ofthe U.S.Citizenship and Naturalization to be be allowed to obtain my Visa from the American Embassy in Ghana for free tour. I refer you to to contact the Officer-tn-charge of the Department of Homeland Security in Ghana/Accra through this phone number, if necessary, 0233-021-769258, and this can allow eassier solutions to be agreed in Ghana here with the Consulate. I hope you best for this necessity. Thank YOU. I am LORD AKWASIBANAHENE. |
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Please, I will tell of one thing concerning living in outside the United States, and will like to join the U.S Military.I heard it before that an Immigrant who has join to United States can join the Military.
I am only mean to say that, how I can be depart free from the check points and will be understood with the authoruties and customs for checking points. |
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L will also like to be reminded through this quote, if I was not all that the true to say, what we were discussing. I am Lord Akwasibanahene[7360361] |
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can you join if you have a misdemeanor?
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Dear All,
My name is Bogdan, 26, single former sergeant of Ukrainian Air force, currently looking for Legal way to join the US Armed Forces. Here what I want to say; Unfortunately some of our brothers and sisters Americans have forgotten where they are coming from! No disrespect! America is country of immigrants; it was open by Mr. Columbus and immigrants all over places came to this Great Land. I love US, great people, good traditions, nice girls and I love to fight for this Land and for the peace in whole world and my freedom despite all talks about oil and presence or no presence of weapon of mess destruction in Iraq. Let’s ask ourselves who gave them that weapon? Let’s go back to history of USA and USSR; Vietnam War 1959 to 1975, USSR fights against USA, Afghanistan 1978 - 1989 – USSR against USA and there more examples and I don’t want to preach any one. You know better then I do!! It's called politics. However brave soldiers from America, Ukraine, Canada and other countries stands squarely together and do their job, perform their duties and obligations. They are not fighting for gold, money, oil but their loved once. Let’s remember you that during First and Second World War anyone I repeat anyone could take a rifle and protect their country, land, house, family, and dignity. No immigration laws, no I- 551, Green card or whatever ****** were required. Having this opportunity I would like to thank of those who fallen in those battles and It would be such an honour to be involved with good men and women, all who are joined together in this solemn duty to protect this great country and world. Have a look what are you doing today! US Government brushes off people with all these basic requirements and it is pity because today immigrant is nobody, no rights, no freedom, no SSN, DL, no work. This country was build by immigrants; there are hundreds in Iraq who died before they even became Americans. I wrote numerous letters to president of the United States of America Mr. George Bush, Vise President, Congress, Senate and DHS but I am still nowhere. I think if we would unite all together we could win but until this time is only talking! Thank you very much for reading this letter, for your time and effort to answer our silly question. May God bless America and all of US!! Respectfully, Bogdan Parkhomenko This message has been edited. Last edited by: ParkhomenkoBogdan, |
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With all done and said, it might be wise to summarize the whole issue as : "in order to enlist, a non-citizen needs proper INS documents, read "Green Card". There are some interesting twists such as Cubans who with two years resedency, cond., residents and so on. In either case someone who wants to join NEEDS PROPER PAPERS. Yet, sometimes we can read about some people who joined the US Armed Forces without them and aquired citizenship through the military service. These cases are ultra rare but they happen. The most recent one was about a soldier from Seattle, who joined Army with fake papers, got busted (obviously) yet got pardoned and naturalized. It is just an example that there are some flows in the system which supposed to be very strict on such issues ( fraudulent enlistment, dishonorable discharge and following deportation). However, as DoD admitted itself, there are about 3000 members of the US Military whose country of origin is unknown.Moreover, they can't verify their legal status! In addition to it, the presidential executive order that allows for expedite citizenship does not restrict it to legal residents only. INS confirms it, yet it is not clear how can a non-resident aquire a citizenship if DoD directives prohibit their enlistment. When I post this question on About.com, they replied that such law(INA 329, expedite naturalization, ( all residency requirements are waived) during the periods of hostilities) is a carry over from the times of Vietnam war, yet INS files dated 2005 designate the "war on terrorism" as such period. So go figure who is right! Is it a carry over or what? And why media claims (CNN the few years ago) that only legal residents are eligible for expedite naturalization when a law professor from West Point stated that all active duty personnel, regardles of their legal status are eligible?
In any way, good luck to all who aspire to become members of the US Military. Hoo rahh! |
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Need some info... Is wanting to join the US military reason enough to get a green card? How long does the process from enlisting to actually start your training take i guess that for a non us citizen a bit longer becouse of the background check.
Are the non-us citizen or a us citizen treated the same in the military. Do you think contacting the US military representativ here in Slovenia would help in geting some answers? Since Slovenia is a NATO and EU member does the make me less of a "security risk" and therefor make the process of getting accepted in the US military faster? |
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US military can't assist you with getting a green card. Read the posts and learn about it in details. As it was said, you need a green card to enlist, unfortunately, there is nothing what can be done in order to help you. Getting a green card is not an easiest task of all but not completely impossible. Visit INS web site get information regarding LPR. US military might assist you in getting your citizenship yet you need to be in first. As I mentioned in my previous post there are ways of getting the US citizenship without a green card however, DoD (Department of Defense) directives ask all recruiters to double check on alien applicants, making sure that they are legal residents (read green card holders).So, I do think that there is no way someone can pull the strings and enlist you without proper INS documents. In either case talk with a recruiter because he is the only valid source.
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am a nigeria 20 wish to join the us army to hely them fight against turiste ok.
i will be happy if application is appoveled. my name is benedict nokuchiku. benjunior2008@yahoo.co.uk |
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I am trying to get in contact with Sgt. Terrell Cunningham, he was the last recruiter that I spoke with, can you help me?
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Yup, I know a few Germans who served at the German Armed Forces. They joined the US Army a couple of years ago. |
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It dose not matter if you have served in another military. As long as you havent done anything stupied like getting arrested you are good to go.
What you need is a greencard and a american adress(rent an ampartment). Then if you can pass all other tests like the ASVAB and MEPS you will be able to join. |
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HOW DO I GET THE FORMS TO FILL AND JOIN THE ARMY/ |
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Srgt; Can you explain how that works if you are 17 and have someone with a dual cityzen ship? Does person having this ,if he joins lose other cityzenship? Thanks
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I thought i was the only person from another country who wanted to join the US Military
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I am Ukrainian and i have same problem. Everything i can do just sit and wait when thay going to change some laws. While army spends $$$$$on ad. I don't have to tell you how much, all of you know that this amount is begger than Toyota spends on new customer. Potential recruits are waiting just becasue they were born in Canada or Ukraine. War against terror worldwide!? But only US does something!Guys give me a buz when they change the law and i can join to help you out! Thanks Bogdan Parkhomenko |
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