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Po1 Kalbach, or whomever may know the answer to my question. Just recieved mail saying my SPD code had been changed to HKQ. What does this mean?
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i went in to see a NG recruiter and was told any RE-4 from the army is a no go but to wait until oct-nov of 2006, because that is when amry regs change/update. he told me that last year this time i could have enlisted with a waiver, but army regs changed in oct of 2005 and i am unable to at this time. so to my understanding oct-nov 06 they might change depending on the amount of troops needed. i am putting this here in hopes another recruiter or person that may read this knows if this is true or not.
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wenckgsad you should be abel to obtain a waiver for the national guard if you pass a mental health eval at meps. if recruiters tell you they can't do anything phone different recruiters till 1 is willing to assist, the national guard can and does waive some re 4s.
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Yes I need info on a reentry code of 3 thats all it says I do know I am eligible for a waiver its says that in AR reg 601-219 I beleive I know its 601 but unsure of the las 3 #s. I was turned down by a marine recruiter so now I want to try and get back into the Army I was active duty. During seperation my chain of command tried to stop it all but the Doctor I saw would not overturn his descion I have paperwork that shows I am in perfect mental condition and the recruiter saw that he just said he didnt feel like ding the paperwork. So where I can I find in detail what I can do so that I am prepared when I do talk to a recruiter
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Okay, I know my code and what it generally means. The problem is I can never get a straight answer. I was discharged honorably but with medical conditions. I was suppose to receive a re code that would allow me to re-enlist. How do I go about getting my wavier.
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locate a recruiter that you trust who is willing to assist you, already have your medical records and service records, you can request them on a form 180 if I recall, download form 180 online, then your recruiter will point you in any direction that you have to go to start the waiver process or it they have everything that might start with a request for a meps physical. Shop around for a different recruiter if they won't assist, or tell you you can't applyfor a waiver if you know by the regulations posted here often that you can.
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Your discharge will take ten years to get to NPRC. right now USAR still has it. |
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Ok, from what I have been reading in this forum, there are several different ways of getting a RE4 waiver. But what I am looking for is a definitive way of getting a waiver. I was discharged from the Navy in 1985, with an Honorable discharge with an RE4 code. What I want to do is go back into the Navy Reserves. Since I was discharged, I have stayed on the straight and narrow - not even so much as a speeding ticket. I have kept all my original paperwork from when I was discharged(evals, orders, duty stations,etc), and also have copies that I obtained from the National Personnel Records Center, which includes my medical records, of which I am in the process of scanning into my computer to put on disk. What other paper work would I need?
Thank you. You can email me direct at jimwelsh48@yahoo.com |
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Firstly, are you within the age requirements? This may depend on how much prior service you have. Deduct your prior service time from your present age to find your present age.
Secondly, if you received an RE-4 for drugs, AWOL over 30 days, or other UCMJ related issues you may still have a problem. You will need copies of all your original paperwork related to your last discharge. An RE-4 is very difficult to overpower unless you have considerable circumstances(i.e.: having record working as a civil servant, or likewise, for the past 15 years with excellent references from upstanding individuals from the community). You will need to find a strong ally within the Naval Reserve Recruiting. You may want to speak with a station commander. Good luck |
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I just recently (within the last year) retired from 20 years active duty (navy).
I'm curently 38 yrs of age in excellent health. I was assigned an RE-2 (Ineligible for reenlistment due to status) on my DD-214, which I was told is the standard RE code for retiree's. Is there any possible way I could get back on active duty or reserves, in any branch, even if I elect to forfeit my retirement? I have called the BNCR (board of corrections for naval records) in dc and they said, that is the standard code and that I could submit a request for change, but most likely it wouldn't change. |
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ARNG - No. Retired active duty are ineligble for enlistment. Thank You for your service.
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ARNG will talk to you depending on your age and SPD code. |
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i was wondering if you guys know if anybody would take an RE4, KFS, OTH???
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Is there anything that can be done if re-4 waiver is denied. I tried the guards in wi. and it was denied. can i try another state or can I try in wi. again at a later date. I have an re-4 oth hkq-misconduct from Navy about 16 years ago. thank you for your help.
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goto national gaurd |
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about 3 to 6 month to get back in |
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national gaurds are not taking no more oth |
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can anyone tell me why a failed pt test which led to locally imposed bar to reenlistment would get a RE4 code???????????
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You getting a second oppinion would not hurt, but make sure you get an in depth exam and have all of the doctors paperwork from the exam with you in hand to be submitted. The MEPS will look at it again and then probably send you out for another consult.
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I am 34 years old, I served in the United States Navy from 1990-1992. I was given an other than honorable discharge for misconduct. I realize now that I should have appealed rather than take the discharge, I know I would have won the appeal and I feel I was wrongfully discharged. The reason for my discharge was purely political other than the fact I had gotten into a few fist fights and a few drinking incidents i really did nothing unexpected of a sailor. I did not go to court martial nor any acts I commited are considered a "felony" in the civilian world. I would really like to upgrade my discharge but after so many years it is probably close to impossible. Since my discharge I have never committed a felony or anything of the sort. I have 2 children now and I am a respectable citizen. But this discharge has haunted me for years...also I feel that I have some symptoms from the persian gulf war due to the fact my ship was so close to the coast during the war. I have not been the same since my military service and I have known my conditions have had to been caused by being in the gulf. I would like to ask all and any veteran who can give me some advice on what to do about my situation. my email address is bigtimeskywalker@yahoo.com
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Ok here is the deal!I have been out for a little over a year now and Im dying to get back in! I was discharged from the usmc with an re4 and sep code hfx1,I have been told many times that the marines dont accept re4s,but how can I get around it?I dont have a personality disorder,the whole thing was bullshit!Is there a way to get the re code changed?Or a waiver?Who do I have to write to or talk to to make it happen?Im willing to do anything!I only want to be in the usmc so im going to need something that works!Somebody please give me some good truthful info that will help!Thanks
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You're SOL. Sorry. Try another service. |
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Which service? |
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Come on,there has to be a way!I have heard about people doing it before!
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ndillenback..... it was the army
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9061435- You can submit an appeal to VA, but it will be at least a year before you see any action. There is no way around an RE4 except through this process. Even then, VA can disapprove your request. As of now, you're done.
kdew- How many times did you fail the APFT, were you counseled and given corrective training? SFC Alden |
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SFC Alden.. it was twice after having a fractured ankle and being in a cast for 8 weeks.
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I have ReEntry code of 4 and separation code is JRB, and AR 635-200 Paragraph 15-3b.
It states that I was discharged becuase of homosexual acts and have never or never will be homosexual. When I was discharged I was told it was becuase of my two stress reactions in my leg which are shown on my medical records. I was in PTRP at Fort Jackson when it happened. It also states that I recieved an uncharacterize discharge on 12/2002. I have been trying to reenlist in any branch and haven't had any luck because they say that I can not get reenlisted because of that code. I have a letter from my doctor that says that I no longer have the stress reactions. Any help is appreaciated, Thanks. |
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my name is kevin sprague and i was let out of the navy with a re4. i didn't know what that meant at the time. i was let out in boot camp due to taking laxitives befor i got there and developing hemroids while there. the hospital asked me if i had ever taken anti-depressants and i said yes, thinking my recruiter put that in there. i only took them for a week 5 years ago. i really want to get back in and i'm willing to do anything. i was told to send in my paperwork and wait up to 6 years for an answer. is there any other way?
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Got an OTH from the marine corp with a RE-4B re code and a HKK1 sep code .
After reading a bunch of posts, i understand that i need a discharge upgrade to have any hope of getting into the guard. But how does one go about doing this, and am i correct in understanding that its recommended to wait 3-5 yrs (only been ~2)? I apologize if this information has already been requested posted. |
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I got a Reentry code of 2C. I looked on that about.com page and it said that 2C=Involuntary separation with Honorable disch. Does that mean that I can try to come back to the Air Force?
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i have a re 3 reentry code, no punititive actions on my record, got an honorable discharge JMJ or JHJ i know it was for unsatisfactory performance, recycled twice. just wanted toknow what level of usarec waiver this is?
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hello all:
I am a prior service E-5 Marine with 8 years active duty. I was discharged due to a 2nd ACL tear in the same knee. I was given a reentry code RE-3P and a seperation code JFL1. Once I have the ACL repaired what are my chances of getting back into the military? |
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I was discharged with an re4 code. I've been trying to find out how to change it so I can join the National Guard. Any help would be appreciated.
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I was given an RE-4 JFC from the Navy 11 years ago. I'm currently trying to join the Army, but they won't give a waiver for this code. I tried getting the Board of Naval Corrections to change it to an RE-3F, but they denied my request. Do I have any recourse? Should I contact a congressman or get a lawyer to get this changed? I would like to know my options. Thanks.
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Mr Hirch
I am 38 was discharged in May of 90 from the AF w/ a RE of 2b for misconduct. Do I have a good chance w/ ANG. I Know I am ineligible for Active Army.
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I have a RE code of a 2B. What can I do to change this or what can I do to reenlist?
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Looking to see if I can reenlist into the army reserves.. I got out of the reg army with a RE Code 3, and Sep. code JFW.. Can I go back in as this was in 2000.. My email add is pwilly24@earthlink.net also... thanks
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Everyone dies. It's how you live that defines your existence and writes your epitaph. Member |
Ok folks,
1st - I apologize for being gone so long. I kinda forgot about this thread. 2nd - I can only answer National Guard related questions, because that's All I know a definitive answer to. If the question is Guard related please preface the post with ARNG - ... Rules of engagement - a. From a service other than the Army, the RE code is less important than SPD and Narrative. Do me a favor, there are about 100 SPD codes for the Army and approx 200 for USMC. It is usually 06:00 when I start answer these posts and I don't have my manuals handy, please list the SPD AND Narrative (DD-214, blocks 26 & 28). The more info I get, the better answer I give. b. A few things the Guard can't and won't be able to help you with right now; 1. OTH - Unless your discharge says Honorable or Under Honorable Conditions, don't ask. The answer is a resounding "NO". I don't know how to fix it, I don't care if it's wrong, I don't care what the mitigating th circumstances are, and I don't care if you think it's f*cked up. There is nothing any ARNG recruiter can do, under current regulation, to help you. I'm sorry. Trust me, this board will be the second to know if it changes. 2. Army, ARNG, USAR RE-4 - see paragragh b.1. and replace the word "honorable" with "Army RE-4". c. I don't care what your "mother's, uncle's, cousin's, friend did during Viet Nam and now he's a retired Sergeant Major". The regulation changes at least annually. Sometimes more. I will answer according to current ARNG policy. I will notify this thread of any changes. d. I will be as straight forward and honest as possible. I'm old, gruff and sometimes cranky. My responses may reflect any or all of these traits, so have a thick skin. It's nothing personal, I don't know you. I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Please give me as much info as possible. If it is of a seriously personal nature, i.e. you got caught bent over with pants down, you can email me. I will respond. If it not of a personal nature, don't. I won't respond. Finally - Understand that the ARNG is a state organization and policy can change from state to state. Some offensives are state waivable others are NGB. I'm in Massachusetts. If Florida doesn't want to approve your waiver, that's their perrogative. Try another state. If it is an NGB DQ, once again, sorry. |
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If you are eligible for the Army,you should be OK for the Guard. |
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My discharge is a General (under honorable condition) JKN 2B from the USAF what are my chances of getting back in anywhere? I've talked to a recruiter and he said he would get back to me and that was over 2 months ago. Hoping to get some answers here. I have been out since July 2005.
Thank you jjhflynn@hotmail.com |
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How good is the American Legion or Congressman when it comes to challenging the narrative reason for discharge. Also do I have to live in the same state as the American Legion that I'm requesting services from. I'm wondering if I should spend money on a attorney.
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I don't believe the Legion provides that service. You can check. Typically an upgrade only comes if you can prove it was wrong at the time discharge or you have so rehabilitated yourself the discharge is hinder your future prospects. "Just because" usually won't fly. |
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misconduct
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Everyone dies. It's how you live that defines your existence and writes your epitaph. Member |
ARNG - 12 month wait and a waiver. Get three good letters of reference, gather up all military docs and go see a recruiter. |
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Do the references need to be from anyone specific? Also where do you get the waiver?
Thank you very much I appreciate your time. JF |
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Honorable Discharge, Recode: 2C Seperation Code: JFX
I had an issue with my command that wasn't able to be resolved within the command. I contacted my state Representatives to see if they could assist me. My commander became outraged because he had to respond to their inquiry. He and others in my command conspired to getting me kicked out of the military by pushing paperwork on me. I went to the IG to report what was going on. The IG came to the conclusion that leadership had violated the regulation. The IG tried to resolve the situation by having both parties meet but nothing was resolved. I requested to be removed from this section and placed in another unit on base where I could still perform my duties. But my request was ignored because the IG claimed that the issue would resolve it's self. I was later referred to mental health by leadership. I needed an attorney because I was alleging that retaliation was the motivation behind the Mental Health referral. The same attorney that I was given was the same attorney that leadership used to try and burn me. How could he defend me properly when he already represented them. This was totally a conflict of interest. There wasn't another attorney available to assist me and my time was running short. Also it wasn't beneficial to the military that I be released from duty. I was in a negative leave balance which equals money owed to the military. Leadership knew about this but was concerned more about revenge then what benefitted the military. I'm alleging that retaliation was the reason that I was referred to mental health. This all happened (Mental Health referral, discharge) within 2 to 3 months of going to my state representatives and the IG. Can I request a waiver from a recruiter or should I go another route. If you were me how would you go about resolving this issue so you can be considered for a possible reenlistment. |
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No. But they should be from respected positions. Boss, clergy, local politician, teacher, etc... Joe the bartender, although a great guy, is probably not the best reference. |
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Your best bet is to see an outside counselor or doctor and get a statement from them saying that you're not crazy. Afterwards, when requesting a waiver, avoid any direct statements that point fingers at the military. Everyone knows that there is screwed up situations from time to time. If your statement is right, you will be able to convey that message without pointing fingers. |
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Hello, Does anyone know what my chances are for the army reserve, or national guard.... I made a mistake, and would like to correct this issues.. if im allowed back... Thanks to anyone who knows what I could do... |
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I was chaptered out for having a dirty urinalyisis(what a mistake), but recieved an honorable dishcarge with a reentry code of 3 and a separation code of JKK. Is there any chance i could go back to active duty or even possibly the national guard?
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Hello, I was honorably discharged from active duty in Jan. 1993, this was back when the military was making all the big cut backs and finding ways to put soldiers out of the service. I had a DUI and was discharged with an RE 4 JCC, I would really like to have this changed if possible. Also, what is the cut-off age for National Guard enlistment? I am 41 and would like to enlist into the NG if I can bypass this RE4 problem. I feel there is a need for more soldiers during this war time situation and I want to play my part. What can I do if anything?
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It sounds to me like you would have had less than 30 days AWOL. If this is the case, you could be eligible for a waiver.
When you were separated, did you receive a copy of the letter indicating the terms of your discharge? The fact you were being discharged for being AWOL and how many days you were actually AWOL? What is the discharge type and codes on your dd-214? 1.) type of discharge (honorable, general, etc..) 2.) RE-Code 3.) Separation Code 4.) Narrative reason for discharge |
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Response to: Jerzie99
You have an RE-3 and a JFW. What did you do to get a JFW? If it was drug related or testing POS on a piss test, you won't have a chance to get back in. Anything else, you may have a shot, if you have all your prior service separation related documentation. |
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For all of you die-hard, gotta-serve-my-county, I-screwed-up, and I-can't-get-back-in-the-service type individuals. There is another way to serve your country, redeem some dignity, and get paid a reasonable salary at the same time. On a global level, the military offers jobs to civilians. These are not jobs to shrug your shoulders at. Many of these jobs require specific qualifications and a substantial resume. Civilian jobs within the military are rated at a GS level ranking system. With some perseverance, one could begin at an entry-level GS rank and earn their way up to a very respectable position within a few years. Postions are offered world wide, including Japan, Korea, Germany, and Iraq. One could be eligible for full benefits and earn additional combat pay for being stationed in a danger zone. Furthermore, individuals like yourselves, who are not just looking for a pay-check or a 9-5 job, who really have something to offer their country and want to do their duty, you can still support your troops and the US military efforts. FYI- Many high-ranking supervisory/management/advisory positions are held by high-ranking GS level civilians. If you are under 40 years of age, you have a lifelong opportunity to have a career as a Government Service employee. If you are over 40, you should have a relatively impressive resume that would make you eligible for a desireable position. There's more than one way to skin a cat and it's never too late to serve your country. Keep in mind, there's nothing like working for Uncle Sam to begin earning brownie points to build your credential in efforts to try and reenlist again. You will have great referrals and respectable experience. ALWAYS PLAN YOUR AVENUE OF APPROACH. The service could always use some help at your nearest VA hospital or medical complex. It's a great way to start earning your way into the medical field. We have more post-trauma and amputees than we can service. How about a future in prosthesis. Anybody want to earn the credentials of a medical technican and be treated like a doctor? This is a lucrative field that will always require talented and ambitious individuals. Not to mention you will be helping to rehabilitate the lives of numerous soldiers that have sacrificed more for thier country than most have. ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY! AND IT'S COUNTRYMEN AND WOMEN! There are other numerous govenment agencies interested to hire qualified civilians. (i.e.: FBI, Secret Service, State Dept., Department of Defense, etc...) I can only plant the seed, you make it grow! START WITH THESE LINKS: WWW.USAJOBS.COM WWW.CPOL.ARMY.MIL GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I served in the Air Force from August 1999 to May 2005. I got overweight, demoted, and subsequently denied re-enlistment. My discharge code is JBK and my re-entry 2X. I want to join the Navy, but the recruiter around here has no idea about Air Force codes. Can anyone here help?
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yeah, but i cannot get back in the service, what makes you think that someone who works for the government is going to hire those who have gotten dishcharged for dirty pee tests etc etc. i doubt the secret service is going to hire me because i pissed hot.
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4456-The police dep't I work for requires applicants to be drug free for one year before appointment. That doesn't sound difficult for anyone who's serious.
A discharge is only one aspect of an applicant's background we consider. We examine the totality of his strengths and weaknesses. Start now building a history of wise decision making. Attend schools, maintain decent credit, become stable. Forgive yourself. We will. |
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perhaps i am being a little pessimistic, but when i apply for certain jobs(correctional officer, police dept they ask questions like how many times have you done a certain drug or drugs,) it frightens me because it seems like even if i did use to party a little bit and it has been at least 5 years since i have done any illegal drugs, i just get the feeling that they are going to deny me. if you do not mind me asking which police dept do you work for?
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i have worked as a surveillance agent at a casino for close to three years now. I really would like to get into law enforcement, but i know all the stupid things i have done will come back to haunt me wheni get that polygraph test most pd or correctional officer jobs require you to take. Granted i have no criminal record, but all those other stpid little things add up. not that there is a lot, but it is just unnerving.
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We're no longer in the 50's. Most everyone has tried some experimentation. In fact, if someone stated they never tried pot-that would be a cause for concern. The polygraph is a useful tool. It can ID areas for further study. It can also pursuade some already ineligible from applying. But they are not punitive. What ever you tell them is not going startle them. Be upfront, tell the truth, and sell your accomplishments.
I'm a former corrections officer and current cop in a 1,000 square mile county just outside New York City. We're the 11th largest PD in the USA, with about 2,500 sworn members. I got my start from an USAF Recruiter. |
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yes. 12 month wait and an approved waiver. |
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What service where you discharged from? what is JCC? |
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JCC is the speperation code for downsizing I believe. |
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What is the discharge type and codes on your dd-214?
1.) type of discharge (honorable, general, etc..) 2.) RE-Code 3.) Separation Code 4.) Narrative reason for discharge General Under Honorable Conditions (DEC 1985) RE-4 JPD UNK My question is, I have undergone a residential treatment program and consistantly gone to AA meetings since. Paramedic for six years, San Francisco and Las Vegas. Search and rescue search manager for Sheriff's Dept., 4 years. Master scuba instructor, etc, etc, etc. Clean Record. Should I petition for RE code change or try for the ARNG? (I am 40 BTW) EDIT: I was the medic in Gore's motorcade when he visited SF back in '96 when he was acting vice-president. This message has been edited. Last edited by: sarmediclehman, |
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My sep. code say this, (JFW) Erroneous enlistment; Medical condition disqualifying for military service, with no medical waiver approved.
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My discharge of service was, " Uncharacterized ", and the Sep. Authority is, " AR 635-200, Para 5 - 11.
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Everyone dies. It's how you live that defines your existence and writes your epitaph. Member |
The narrative reason you were discharged is in block 28. Since you are an Army RE-4, you are not eligible for re-enlistment. Either you were not a product of downsizing or you got screwed. |
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Everyone dies. It's how you live that defines your existence and writes your epitaph. Member |
What branch were you in? The Guard will look at you now as long as you weren't in any component of the Army. If you were Army, I think you have a good case for a Discharge Review Board. Talk to the VA. |
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Everyone dies. It's how you live that defines your existence and writes your epitaph. Member |
It depends on what the medical condition is. Chances are if it wasn't approved back then, it won't be approved now. If the condition has cleared up, you will need to get documentation supporting that claim and talk to a recruiter. There is hope. Otherwise they would have given you an RE-4. |
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Was a nuke machiist mate in the Navy. If the guard will look at me now, what would be my next step? Thanks. |
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Ok so I have a kind of different question here for anyone with a possible answer primarily a recruiter. My husband is a very proud currently non-serving Marine. He was discharged in 1999 with a sep code of MBK-1 narrative reason COMPLETION OF REQUIRED ACTIVE SERVICE (RETURN FROM OVERSEAS LESS THAN 90 DAYS TO EAS). So far no problem however his RE code is RE-4. He was in the Corps when mandatory shots for Anthrax were being doled out like forced Halloween candy. He refused shot and was shown his E-4 promotion papers to lets just say pursuade him to make a decision. He stood his ground and refused. He was busted to an E-1 for remaining 9 months of service with an obvious black spot on his record. He received a "good cookie" in Jan of 99. He now wants to re - enlist for the benefit of his family and thinks there maybe a way out of the RE-4 due to circumstances as this especially considering the whole Federal case and all. I support him 100% but am getting a distinct impression that this may be a pipe dream. He held E-3 and has an otherwise perfect record save for a drunken encounter on a beach in Okinawa but what Marine hasn't had one of those right? LOL. Anyway, any help in this area would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Gather up all documents from military service. Gather up all docments from rehab facilities. Get three solid letters of reference. Write a statement that says something to the effect of "I was a stupid kid because..., I have matured and wish to be considered for enlistment now because...". Be prepared to be scrutinized, You will probably have to interview with some people. You may need more documents, the more motivated you are, the more motivated your recruiter will be. Make sure you have a good haircut (not necessarily military) trim any facial hair and dress neatly. If you need to, lose some weight. Good luck. |
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The USMC can be pretty unforgiving at times, your husband actually got a pretty good deal. The National Guard will talk to him. Shouldn't even require a waiver. He will come back in at the rank he got out at unless he has some college time. If Active duty is his goal, he can join the Guard and transfer to active duty after a year. Hey, I had one of those in Oki, too. |
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My hair has been short since I left the Navy, if not shorter. I have all the documents you speak of and a binder full of "thank you" letters from the board of supervisors, as well as certifications and licenses. I have a call in to the local recruiter to see what they have to say about all the information I have collected. Thanks again for your help and I'll keep you updated as to my progress. |
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Good point. Another option would be serving in the one of the State Guards (aka State Defense Forces), which are volunteer organizations officially recognized as part of the state militia (i.e., in the historical sense, not fringe militia). This has the added benefit that, if you still wish to pursue serving in Army or one of the Reserve components, you will have obtained experience with military customs and traditions. For example, I am a member of the Maryland Defense Force and previously the New Mexico Defense Force and have learned quite a bit from being a supply sergeant for both. Information on state guards for particular states can be found on the web site for The State Guard Association of the United States (SGAUS). See http://www.sgaus.org/States.htm Tom |
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I was discharged from the marines due to an erroneous enlisment and got out with an RE3. I have an aphakic left eye is that automatically a disqualifying condition, and if so why was i given a Re3 instead of a R4 that would prohibit me from trying?
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EVERYONE, See this link: http://www.army.mil/warriorethos/
Thanks to "Tom" for sharing your experience and knowledge with the forum. I receive emails with questions and phone calls all day long from prior service individuals. I would like nothing more than to help any armed services applicant serve their country, however, circumstances dictate eligibility and that bridge may not be an option today. But that doesn't mean you have to give up. Anything worth having doesn't come easy, and it's worth fighting for. I encourage any forum readers to contribute their experiences and knowledge regarding military related civilian jobs for others to read and learn from. For many RE-Code problemed cases, in search of answers regarding a go-no-where situation, you need an alternative Avenue of Approach. You need to set out a plan to redeem your character and earn credibility, in the eyes of the waivers review board. Here's a success story: I was trying to help an individual that had an RE-4, Other than Honorable, in lieu of trial by court martial for AWOL, all the uglys (This is a very common combination for those of you that went AWOL/UA from initial entry or once at your first duty station). Any AWOL/UA cases under 30 days may still have a chance at a waiver. Cases with over 30 days AWOL/UA is considered a deserter and will have a very difficult time convincing any reenlistment waiver review board that they will never do this again, if given a second chance. There was this one re-enlistment wanna-be that had an ugly DD-214 and did make it back in. After his separation, he had served over 14 years as a fire dept paramedic. He earned the respect and praise of his civil servant peers and the community. He had reference letters from all the top leaders in his community, and his personal records illustrated his character to be a commendable member of the community. If Theo B. is reading this, he will know who I'm talking about. Drive on Theo, Hooah!! Now this is a success story that began with dedication and set out on a path to build a road and a new bridge. One must have a vision and the drive to persevere building the foundation of a new road. Brick by brick we build and cannot walk a road yet to be laid. If you understand this analogy of patience, you may have a chance. If you don't, you will be disappointed. I deal with many young applicants that think getting back in the Army is a matter of metting all the conditions and stipulations in the reenlistment regulation. It's not. There is a big human factor involved, and it's not the Lone Ranger coming to save your day, or your career as a soldier, to say the least. The human factor needs to be there in order to evaluate applicants' character, integrity, credibility, and at least 10 other significant qualities. I can't tell everyone that they're eligible or ineligible to re-enlist, or if they do "this" or "that", you will or may meet eligibility req's. All waivers are determined by the HHQ waivers review board. Depending on the type of waiver you need, there are different criteria factors and conditions. All medical waiver requests go to one place, and it is not a happy place. All prior medical conditions are, now more than ever, seriously scrutinized. You need to be in 110% physical condition to make the ultimate sacrifice for your country. Psych cases are very tough to get waived. (i.e.: suicidal tendencies, bi-polar behavior, bi-sexual/homosexuality, etc..) Even physical cases can be very tough. You gotta be 110%, or have the blessing of a high-ranking angel to push you through. For those of you serious and persistent, know the hill you need to climb. Gather information and form a plan. Set out on a path and remain determined. Being a soldier is not a patch you wear on your sleeve, it's a feeling you carry in your heart and soul. US Army Warrior Ethos: I will always place the mission first / YOU are now the mission! I will never accept defeat! I will never quit! I will never leave a fallen comrade / YOU are now the fallen comrade. Pick yourself up and drive on! See this link: http://www.army.mil/warriorethos/ Never give up, never surrender! HOOAH |
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Hi, I am a former navy mom, heres the story, Im sorry to sound eager and ignorant. I mean I have read alot now about the RE codes, but let me get this straight?. My son enlisted in the navy, was in bootcamp for 5 weeks, about two weeks into it, he was drug tested, they found a trace of pain killer in his system, he stupidly took one pain killer for his wisdom teeth. of course he was upset and told them he took it for mouth pain. had no prescription to back him up. question: he had to come home with an RE4. can he EVER return?, even filling out the forms and such? Is filling out the forms a waste of time? he is a mess thinking he cannot return to the navy. thank you very much Susan
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He will not likely be able to return to the Navy. RE-4's Are pretty career ending in the branch recieved from. The ARNG will like be able to get him into the service and after a year or so he can transfer to Active Army. |
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Someone said the navy reserves will take you back with an RE4??
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i have a code re 4, because i went awol.....i researched through The USCMJ...i know the wait period is two years(i was delicined, for an upgrade in my re-enlistment code like most of you) i have 7 months till that two years is up....what else is there to do while i wait???? i really want back in the ARMY "the civilian world sucks after i tasted my army greens"...and for those that former served in any branch of the Army...ex:AR.,ANG.,ACTIVE ARMY.....YOU CAN ONLY GO BACK TO THE ARMY, FINISH your "NEW-TERM OF SERVICE" then think about another brach of the military ......that was something i ran accross looking through The USCMJ...hate to bust yalls bubble, but i dont want to set yall up for failure, but if yall have any answers for me hit me up........later ****-O'S
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i have a re code 4 for going awol...i looked into the ucmj and it said two year wait period,(i tried for an re code upgrade, but like everyone else...i was declined), i have 7 months to go till my wait period is up...what else will i have to do...to try to get back in the army?
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If you have a RE-4 code what makes you think they will take you back? And a two year wait period for what, trying to upgrade RE code, I can't believe they would take you back after that. |
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Your's seems like a complicated case. Firstly, you need to identify your separation codes. If you have an RE-code that leaves you ineligible to reenlist w/out a waiver, you will be facing even greater odds. Depending on the separation code, you may be required to wait 6 to 24 months before eligible to request a waiver. See: Army Reg 601-210; -pg 36; Chptr 4-13; Prior military service -pg 25/26; Chptr 3-21; Eligibility codes http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r601_210.pdf In your request for waiver packet, you will be required to include all UCMJ related documentation regarding what happened to cause your separation from service. You will need to include a personal statement letter, a min. of three referral letters on USAREC Form 1118, your DD-214, all counseling statements, all your particulars, and other various docs. Your case will be thoroughly scrutinized, so don't think this will be a walk in the park. Be sure that all your UCMJ related documentation is complete beyond question. Furthermore, if the conclusion of the contents of your legal documents do not leave you in neutral or positive standing with the US military, you will have a difficult road ahead. |
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DMKN,
I see you have a SEP Code: JFX, which falls under medical. You must have had a psych evaluation prior to separation. You will need a copy of your DA Form 4707 Entrance Physical Standards Board Proceedings or psych evaluation. |
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Going to see the ARNG recruiter in a few hours with my REDD Response (only had short DD214), and about 150 pages of supporting documents. (paramedic licenses, instructor certificates, letters of appreciation from Board of Supervisors, sheriff's Dept. recommendation letter, etc.)
If this doesn't work I was just reading over my discharge paperwork (leading up to it) and there is NO way I should have taken a General UHC. I have a very good case for upgrading not only my discharge, but my RE code as well. Wish me luck.  |
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I'm hoping that someone may be able to help me I know this is going to be very long, but please bear with me.
I have a rather "unique" situation. Or at least I see it this way. I was discharged from the Navy 10 years ago this month. 08/1996 after only 10 months of service. I received a General Under Honorable Conditions discharge. RE-4. Sep Code: HKQ Narrative: Misconduct. However, here is my "unique" situation: I told my girlfriend at the time that I was about to be shipped off to a new duty station. In an effort to keep me from going, she told me that she was pregnant. I thought we should move together and start a family, which she agreed to. As the time came closer, she decided to tell me that she did not want to move away from her family. She told me that if I ever wanted to see my kid, that I better do what I can to get out of the Navy because if I moved, she would never let me see him/her. I spoke with a counselor thinking that I may be able to get a hardship discharge. She told me that the only way to get out quickly is by attempting suicide. I told my ex about this and she said I better figure something out. Then she told me that since I didn't want to own up to my responsibility, she was on her way to the abortion clinic (knowing that I am very pro-life). So I faked a suicide attempt in an effor to save another life. I found out 2 days later that she was never pregnant and I was screwed. I'm not crazy. I'm not suicidal. I made a foolish mistake at 17 years of age. Is there any way to get into the Army National Guard? What if I get a psychological evaluation? I think it's too late to file for an upgrade to my military records, but is there a way around it? Also, I was looking into the OCS program. I have a college degree and finishing a Master's degree. Every job that I have had has been in a leadership position. I'm hoping to serve my country as an officer. |
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Thank You ndillenback, ARNG said I am a go. E-5, medic, in the next town nearest to where I live. I just need to recert as a medic (shouldn't be a problem) and do the MEPs thing.
Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction and your great information. SARmedic |
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i am a prior service who is trying to enlist in the national guard. i recieved an honorable discharge and have a reentry code of 3 with a separation code of jkk (I was chaptered for failing one pee test) I talked to a ng recruiter and he said that i have to get a waiver which i already knew from reading posts on here. I was just wondering if anyone knows how difficult it is to get this waiver and if so how long does it take. Also, it says i have to have completed rehab and go to a program in support of sobriety. Has anyone ever ard of this waiver and if so how hard is it to get? any help would be much appreciated. thanks |
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JKK - Drug use I really don't know. I had JPD - Alcohol abuse rehabilitative failure, I was diagnosed in the Navy but never went to rehab, so I didn't fail, I just declined Tx. I am going to MEPs next Thursday. (I still need a waiver though.) I completed an inpatient rehab and have been clean a number of years now, so that will probably make the difference. The other big difference is I did it on my own, not court ordered or anything like that, and I attend AA meetings daily. As far as a dirty urine test for drugs, probably depends on what kind and what you have done about it since. But I should leave this one alone because I am only guessing, there are recruiters on the board that will get to your question I'm sure. |
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i talked to a lady through my work who sai dshe could get me a cartifcate for rehab. I didn't go to rehab pretty much because what i did was a one time thing. it is quite embarassing to go to rehab for something i did once, but am willing ot do it because i want to go in the guard. The recuriter i talked to was quite shady, offering to change my dd214 (alter it basically) to look like i did not get separated for misconduct. i told him no and said i will try to get the waiver. i couldn't believe he was willing ot forgge a governemtn document.
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ARNG - 1. With a misconduct discharge it should be pretty easy to get back in. Gather up everything you have and go talk to a recruiter. 2. Get OCS out of your mind for right now. You have an obligation that you failed to fulfill. They will not allow you to go to OCS. Get a couple of good years under you belt then try. |
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The ease of the waiver depends on the state you live in. Some are better than others. The Commie Northeast and West are far more likely to approve it than the Patriotic South and Midwest. You will need go through a rehab program and get a clean bill of health, but you should be good after that. |
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Do the rehab! When you fail a piss test on AD they call it drug abuse, basically because you knew the danger and did it anyway. DO NOT ALTER ANY DOCUMENTS!! If it is caught you will be out of the Guard! Sever any ties that you have with this guy, get your certificate and try another recruiter. |
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i Had no intentions of doing this the wrong way. I am going ot do the rehab, i was just wondering what i should od about the recruiter situation as there are no other CANG recruiters around where i live..i guess the waiver for DA has to go to the national guard bureau.
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If ya gotta deal with him then, so be it. Go to rehab. Do the right thing. If it sounds fishy, shoot me an email. I am a Guard recruiter, I have access to the regs. I am a Soldier first. I believe in looking out for other Soldiers or potential Soldiers. Nothing pisses me off more than someone too lazy to do the job right. Walk cautiously with this guy. |
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