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Can i get in the Airforce with ok credit,and an assault and battery charge a year ago? I really want to join the airforce as a RN
 
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DO you have a degree in nursing?

The credit MIGHT not be an issue, but that assault and battery charge will definitely raise a red flag.

Someone here can chime in on whether you're DQ'd or not because of the charge.
 
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Can i get in the Airforce with ok credit,and an assault and battery charge a year ago? I really want to join the airforce as a RN


Assault and Battery is a no-go. If the charges were dropped/dismissed, it might be waiverable. However, I do not know this for sure, so don't take my word for it. Our resident AF recruiter, Yukondogg, can help you out.
 
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Thanks that is very hard to hear. Really wanted to make a career in the airforce starting as an officer Mad
 
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yes I have a bachelors degree in nursing
 
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I was talking to the recruiting commander at University of Alaska, and he said there were express scholarships to those people who would major in nursing. He said as long as you got accepted into the program you could get the scholarship. I was actually offered a scholarship there to major in Language this coming semester but i decided to enlist instead. If you want to go officer I would call up some ROTC detachments and see if they are still offering any express scholarships. You would be able to work on your masters for two years while you are in.
This is how I was told it from the detachments recruiter in Alaska.
 
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Ross,
the OP already has a degree in nursing. They don't need to go to ROTC.

OP,
Talk with a medical recruiter. Regarding your A&B it will depend on the situation if it can be waived. With a BSN you are more likely to get the waiver though, depending on the situation. Best of luck.
 
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Synger,

If you are not a recruiter, don't answer what you are not 100% sure of. The way you made it sound to this poster or the way they took it, they seem to have bolted.

I know you said, might and check with Yukon, but the first couple of words is all it takes.

I would have said the same as Will, call a Health professions recruiter and see what they can do, it will depend on the circumstances.

Everything with the charge must be complete though, no probation and must be closed in court.
 
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Synger,

If you are not a recruiter, don't answer what you are not 100% sure of. The way you made it sound to this poster or the way they took it, they seem to have bolted.

I know you said, might and check with Yukon, but the first couple of words is all it takes.

I would have said the same as Will, call a Health professions recruiter and see what they can do, it will depend on the circumstances.

Everything with the charge must be complete though, no probation and must be closed in court.


Well, I do know 100% that someone convicted of Assault and Battery cannot join the Air Force. Then I went on to say that depending on the circumstances and the result of the charge (was he convicted? was the charge dropped/dismissed?), he may be able to obtain a waiver. Am I wrong about any of this?

I mean, come on, if a Simple Assault charge that was DISMISSED needs a waiver, then I KNOW Assault and Battery is a DQ unless waiverable.

However, considering I am not a recruiter, I will no longer provide assistance in this forum.
 
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THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR REPLIES,IT HAS REALLY BEEN HELPFUL. I GUESS I WILL HAVE TO TALK TO MY RECRUITER REGARDING THE SPECIFICS OF MY SITUATION. THANKS A BUNCH Smile
 
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FEW THINGS I HAVE LEARNT FROM THESE FORUMS: THE MILITARY MIGHT BE DESPERATE FOR NEW COMERS, BUT IT DOES NOT SETTLE. 2)THE MILITARY HAS VERY STRICT RULES, AND HIGH EXPECTATIONS. 3)IF ONE IS THINKING MILITARY BETTER WALK A STRAIGHT LINE, OR NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CREDENTIALS ARE YOU MIGHT BE DQ.

CONGRATS TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO GET IN AND SERVE!
 
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FEW THINGS I HAVE LEARNT FROM THESE FORUMS: THE MILITARY MIGHT BE DESPERATE FOR NEW COMERS, BUT IT DOES NOT SETTLE. 2)THE MILITARY HAS VERY STRICT RULES, AND HIGH EXPECTATIONS. 3)IF ONE IS THINKING MILITARY BETTER WALK A STRAIGHT LINE, OR NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CREDENTIALS ARE YOU MIGHT BE DQ.

CONGRATS TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO GET IN AND SERVE!


Right on. As someone else put it on these forums, serving your country is a privilege, not a right. Definitely talk to your recruiter and disclose everything to him. It's always worth a shot.
 
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Synger,

You are wrong, if a person was charged with A and B , then unconditionally dismissed, NO a waiver is not needed.

Its not your follow on information that was wrong, it was the first couple of words that from the sounds of the post, sent them running.
 
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Synger,

You are wrong, if a person was charged with A and B , then unconditionally dismissed, NO a waiver is not needed.

Its not your follow on information that was wrong, it was the first couple of words that from the sounds of the post, sent them running.


Well, they're still around, actually. So fortunately I didn't send them running.

But I am confused as to how SA that is dismissed requires a waiver whilst A&B that is dismissed does not. Especially since you told me that ANY charge (whether it is dismissed, found not guilty, etc.) is looked upon as guilty in the AF. Considering A&B is worse than SA, one would think A&B will definitely require a waiver if SA does.
 
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ANY charge (whether it is dismissed, found not guilty, etc.) is looked upon as guilty in the AF.


What Yokun was telling you is that if it is dismissed with requirements (i.e. pay fine, unsupervised probation, restitution, etc) it is considered a conviction. If it dismissed without ANY stipulations it is not normally considered as requiring a waiver. Thus the reason court documents are required to determine the disposition of the charges.
 
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ANY charge (whether it is dismissed, found not guilty, etc.) is looked upon as guilty in the AF.


What Yokun was telling you is that if it is dismissed with requirements (i.e. pay fine, unsupervised probation, restitution, etc) it is considered a conviction. If it dismissed without ANY stipulations it is not normally considered as requiring a waiver. Thus the reason court documents are required to determine the disposition of the charges.


My SA was dismissed without any stipulations whatsoever. In other words, I was falsely charged with SA. I was innocent the entire time and it was not even necessary for me to proclaim my innocence to have the charges dropped.

So why would my SA require a waiver whilst A&B does not? Just doesn't make sense. Not that I'm complaining or anything, I'm just curious. I've already submitted my letters of recommendation as well as my own letter of reference to my recruiter to submit to his boss. I'm thinking the fact that I went through the trouble of getting these letters will show my recruiter's boss that I really want to be a part of the AF, so I'm actually glad I was asked to do it. Just sucks I had to wait a while to get that last letter.
 
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air force is sooo hard to get in these days.
i went to join, and before i could speak the guy was like sorry all positions are filled.
 
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Similar situation but my case was with my daughter. the charge started out as felony maming, once brought before the judge it was dropped to A&B, no ruling was made, just ordered to work with social services for a year, after a year of working with social services the charge was dismissed. Am I eligable to join the military?
 
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