I was diagnosed with cancer in 1999, It was always my dream to join the US Air Force. I told my recruiter that I had my last cancer treatment 8 years ago, when everyone else was like you dont have to volunteer that info. I was like no Im going to do it the right way. I did my research on militaryabout.com or whatever before all this because I dont believe in getting suckered. That is the website I was told to go on if I wanted to know anything about the military, it is all truthful info. It stated that the required remediation period for cancer patients to join the military is 5 years with no treatment or surgery, ok it has been 8 for me. The recruiter and his flight chief looked at my records before sending it to meps and said everything should go through fine they just needed the ok to send me up, from the meps doctor. Also, they had me get a letter from the doctor that diagnosed me with cancer, as a child. I stated that i had all my treatment and was 8 years in remediation and was in great health and have not been under a doctor's care in 8 years til this day. Ok the recruiter call me and said the meps doctor pdq'd (permanently disqualified) me. I was so ****ed but my friends tell me there is something that can be done, with it being documented on the militaryabout.com and still being denied. I could understand If I went to meps and failed the physical, but I got all that they requested and I believe that I meet all the requirements. It's like when you're try doing things the correct way you get screwed. I should have the right to service this country as well as anyone else. I mean I would be willing to sign a wavier or whatever I dont care for the government's money. My health is way more valuable than any money they could give me. I say this because a buddy of mine said that the disability scam a lot of people try to get off with in the military, is the cause of so much BS to get in. I know this is a long message but can anyone give me advice on what I can do, because I am not giving up. I know I am in better health than some of the people in the military.
about.com is NOT an official site, is woefully outdated and should never be taken as gospel. and just because something IS waiverable.. doesn't mean that the branch WILL waive it.
waivers are hard to come by, especially in an ovremanned Branch like the Air Force.
There can be no freedom without sacrifice
Ok I understand that waviers are hard to come by but do you have any helpful info that I can use. Or let me ask this, do you think people like me should have the opportunity to serve in the military after a set period time. Also, is there not a remediation time or period for someone who had cancer, I believe that there is, it's hard for me to believe that there is not one single person that went through something like cancer that is serving in the military. I know that they have there rules and all but If a person is proven not crazy and can pass the physical portion and score well enough on the asvab why not let him or her in the military. If it got bad enough where there was a draft for the war I wouldn't have a choice on whether or not to join if so why didnt they as for my med records when I had to register but when I volunteer O you have to be damn near perfect
for whatever reason, the AF decided they are not willing to take a chance on you. accept that and move on. the Army or National Guard MIGHT be willing to give you that chance. and NEVER, EVER compare your experiences with anybody else's. just because Johnny Doe got in with a history of cancer 2 years ago does NOT MEAN that they will let you try.
I have an Autoimmune disease/ when I was 18 I was fully in remission and tried to get into USNA> even though, at the time I could do the run, do the pushups and meet allthe PRT quals, they denied me because of the disease. It sucked, and I was bummed.. but they decided. THEIR choice. I didn't have to like it, but I did have to accept it.
I don't make policy and it is not my place to decide who should be granted the PRIVILEGE of serving. you do not have the right to serve.
There can be no freedom without sacrifice
I understand your dissapointment at being DQ'd.
You are indeed cought up in the times and the way things are today in the military.
It's not all bad You do get to live.
Mrsjvb why do I not have the right to serve. Sounds to me that you are still upset that they didn't accept you, so anyone else that is not with a perfect med record like you and I you want to down them. People like you encourage me to fight harder and that is what Im going to do until there is nothing else that can be done and no I will not just accept a pdq without a reason. I know you will be hoping that I dont make it in... I know it is not all that bad and I'm not going to stop living because I didn't get the ok the first time around but it is worth contesting the issue. I got an update also that they are going to have the SG review my med records and have they finally say so because other meps doctors dont understand why wasn't I even giving a physical exam before that doctor put that on my files... so good news
I went to BCT with a guy who was a former cancer patient. Getting into the Army might be your best bet.
I should add that the guy was in horrible shape and failed to graduate, I'm not implying you are though, just thought I'd mention that. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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It's not a right, it's a priviledge. She is completely correct. If it was a right then all would make it through
All you can do is use your channels. If they DQ you, there's nothing you can do. Even Congretional inquiries only work if they don't follow procedures.....If they refuse to waive something it's entirely their right.
You're also trying for one of the branches that has one of the lowest chances for a waiver.
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Ditto to what Catherine said. If it was a right to serve, I doubt that there would a written test (the ASVAB) and you would even have to take a physical.
Also, I have seen Congressional Inquiries overturn recruiter and MEPS decisions, but it's mighty rare. They have to have cause, usually because of a misunderstanding. In one instance, it was a young man who got the words "asthma" and "allergy" mixed up. Most of the times I dealt with them it was "Hi, this is Congressman So and So's office." "Why can't John Q. Applicant join?" I'd tell them that because of current regs I couldn't enlist him with ________ (fill in problem). And that was usually the end of it.
I know there is a possibility/chance but I mean man I feel as though I deserve a physical exam at least. I mean I've been cancer free for 8.5 years Im in better condition now than I was before I was diagnosed/treated. Im still waiting on the word from the SG I know it could take weeks even months. I believe it will be well worth the wait and besides just giving up, when I know that their are other options, is way to easy and that has never been my style. Military/Basics is no harder than my high school football years from what I was told from Army guys, only guns and gernades.
"Military/Basics is no harder than my high school football years from what I was told from Army guys, only guns and gernades."
Boy, would you be in for a rude, or should I say, a ROUGH awakening.
The physical stressors that your body would be put through in the military wouldn't even come close to what you went through playing football.
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Well, there is some truth to that. Not so much with the "no harder" part but there is a similarity. Now, I never played high school football, but I heard some of the recruits in my company that did play say the Company Commanders reminded them of their high school football coaches. And sometimes the coaches in my high school gym class sounded and acted like CCs too. But other than that, it was a much different ordeal.
One of the main reasons they are so strict isn't so much because they don't think someone could get through basic or do the job, but because the government doesn't want to pay them a disability check for the rest of their lives.
Now all you can do is to wait for the results of the medical review. I'm sorry things didn't work out better for you.
I know this is an ancient thread, but if there's anyone out there like me, who finds it through an internet search, I can't help but try and help them. I was diagnosed with brain cancer at age 13 (aggressive apendemoma sp?) and h
ave been in remission since, I guess, 1994. I've tri
ed to join the military 3 times. Straight out of high
school, after 9-11, and in about 2004, when My little brother joined the Air Force. I was denied at every turn, despite an ASVAB score of 95 and a clean physical. I've since made peace with my station in life, but I will always regret my inability to serve my country. I've learned to accept the fact that I'll always have cancer, and move on with my life, and if you're reading this, you will, too. Just don't give up.
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Charles- I'm glad you're doing well, and thanks for your post.
For those reading ependymodas are tumors that arise from the cells lining the ventricles (hollow channels) of the brain (most commonly the fourth ventricle). As these tumors grow and fill the ventricle, they obstruct the flow of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) through the brain. These tumors appear more commonly among younger children and adolescents (like Charles)
Despite our remarkable strides in the treatment of pediatric malignancies over the last fifty years, there is still long lasting sequelae, and a risk of secondary malignancies(those that metastasize from the primary site) later in life. A risk the military is not likely to take.
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