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PO1Kalbach
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I have an answer why you have been getting the cold shoulder. I have read some of your other posts on here and you have to much negative involvement with the police. Since the Coast Guard has a Federal Law Enforcement mission, an applicant cannot have alot of run ins with the law. A Coast Guard person is expected at times to enforce laws on others and if they can't enforce them on themselves then they shouldn't be in the Coast Guard. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Hello again. Thanks for all of the info so far. I'm still waiting for the army to send me my orders saying I'm out of the DEP program. My ship date for the army was April 15th. Will I get those papers before my ship date? If not, will the CG recruiter be able to get my paperwork from MEPS since I didn't show up for my ship? I called my Army recruiter and he told me that the his superiors know I'm now leaving. I'm just trying to get an idea of when I'll be able to get things rolling. My wife and I are anxious to get this started. I'm very excited about the CG. Also, I'm 28, but my recruiter told me that an age waiver wouldn't be a problem because I scored a 99 on my ASVAB. How long do age waivers take? Thank you so much for your time.
 
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You need to ask the Army recruiter when you are going to receive your DEP discharge paperwork. Any of the service can hang onto the paperwork up till a person was supposed to ship. Just in case they change their mind again. Another service cannot work with you, until you have the DEP discharge. On the age waiver, it can take anywhere from 1 week to 1 month, give or take a day. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I am on a list to go sooner to boot if someone drops. I was just wonder if you knew how often people getting there ship date earlier? (Ship date as of now is April 1st, but wanting to go earlier)
~Steph
 
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I don't have any info on the stats of being able to ship early. Just be ready to go if you get the call. And keeping studying your helmsman!!!!! Good Luck. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I'm considering applying for OCS school, but I'mconcerned that I'm too old. I'm 28. If I'm not, is the first step taking the ASVAB?
 
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For non-prior service, 26 is the max age.

May have a slim chance for an age waiver depending what your degree is in...soft degree, no way...any 'special' skills?
 
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Here is the website to check out the requirements for OCS. www.gocoastguard.com, click on jobs, then Officers, then OCS. As COASTIE stated the age limit is 26. For non prior service. Coast Guard Recruiting Command has been entertaining waivers depending on the applicants package strength. Good Luck. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I think I'm too old for anything but the RX program (28 in a couple of days). What type of skills does the Coast Guard look for for RX? I can't seem to find any information about this anywhere.

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Check out www.gocoastguard.com, click on jobs and reserve. I don't know what your civlian job experience has been. The best thing is to contact the recruiting office nearest to you. Talk to a reserve recruiter. You need to make sure they have a reserve mission and can get you a job in your area. 1-800-NOW-USCG PO1 Kalbach
 
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PO1Kalbach:

Thank you for all of your great posts! I appreciate your candor as a recruiter. Here are my questions....

I am a prior service O-1 (USMC) but with only 12 months in grade. I received an honorable discharge and have no service obligation. I am 29 years old and currently a police officer in the civilian world. I was discharged 3 years ago.

Am I too old? Would I have to attend OCS again?
Also, I am primarily interested in the Reserve.

Thank you again!
 
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PO1Kalbach
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Here are some websites to check out information about Officer programs in the Coast Guard. Since I don't have all your pertinent info, check out the sites and see if you meet the qualifications.
www.gocoastguard.com, click on jobs, Officers, check out the programs. OCS may be an option, PTMO(Prior Trained Military Officer) requires at least 2 years of commissioned service and here is the Select Reserve Direct Commission site. www.uscg.mil/hq/reserve/training/srdc/srdc/brochure.htm, and www.uscg.mil/reserve/training/srdc/html.
You might want to look at the enlisted side if you are near reserve Port Security Unit, or Marine Safety and Security Team location. Since you are a police Officer you may have the skills for these units. Also their are Coast Guard investigators that you may look into also. Check with your local reserve recruiter on these issues. They will know if there is a mission and jobs available in your area. PO1 Kalbach
 
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PO1 Kalbach -
I'd appreciate any insight you have for me. I'm interested in the C.G., I am a college Junior. As far as the different options for joining goes, here are my questions -
Officer - I could complete school, and compete for a spot at OCS. The more I read, the more I wanted to joing the c.g. and the more I realized I may not be eligible -prior drug use, marijuana(maybe ten times) and ecstasy. That was two years ago.
So since this would be a huge black mark on my application, and I probably wouldn't be competitve, are there different standards for enlistment? Since I know I could find a job I like as enlisted, and could finish college over a couple of years while enlisted. Or, alternatively, finish college and then enlist.
How would the drug use affect my job choices, what would be off limits because of security clearance?
I guess I'm just wondering what my options are, Thanks
 
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PO1Kalbach
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If you truly have only tried marijuana 10 times that is really a big deal just be honest with your recruiter. You however don't state how many times you have done ectasy. That could be the problem, since doing ectasy/possession and getting caught is a felony charge. The Coast Guard looks at an applicants character as well as the medical and academic side. And being the only Armed Force to be able to enforce federal laws on the high seas it takes a hard look at people that can't enforce laws on themselves. That said, if you've only experimented with the ectasy and it has been over 2 years, you "may" be good to go. Here is a program you might want to check on in the Coast Guard , College Student Pre-Commissioning Initiative. Here's a breakdown of requirements.

Score 1000 on SAT, 23 on ACT or ASVAB of GT 110 or more.

Be between the ages of 21 and 26 at the end of college graduation.

Must be a sophmore or junior(with at least 60 college credits completed toward your degree).

Be enrolled in a 4 year degree program at an approved institution with a minimm 25% minority population.

Meet all physical requirements for a Coast Guard commission

Maintain a GPA of 2.5 or higher

Be a U.S. citizen

If accepted you will attend 8 weeks of basic training the summer of your sophmore year. Return for you junior year, where you are required to work in a local recruiting office(closest to your school) for one day per week for 3 hours. After completion of junior year, you attend 4 weeks of summer training at the Coast Gaurd Academy in New London, CT, then an additional 3 weeks of on the job training at a Coast Guard unit. Then attend your senior year of college while working at your local recruiting office 1 day a week for 3 hours. Upon graduation from college you will attend 17 weeks of Offier Candidate School, and receive your commssion as a USCG Officer. While in this program recieve a full time salary for two years.

Benefits:
Full tuition paid
Textbooks and fees paid
Monthly salary of up to $2000.00
Life Insurance
Free dental/medical
30 days of vacation per year
Monthly housing and food allowances
Leadership Training,
So this might be an option. Hope this helps you out.

The enlistment standards are pretty much the same for Officer or Enlisted in the Coast Guard. It's up to you which route you want to pursue. To find out if your basically qualified only takes about 5 - 10 minutes of your day answering some basic qualification questions. Also check out www.gocoastguard.com for all the current programs for more indepth information. If you have anymore questions don't hesitate to ask. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Anyone with Coast Guard Questions??
 
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I have one for you Petty Officer Kalbach. Now that the Quartermaster rating has been merged with Boatswain's Mate, are they sending all the students to Boatswain's Mate School? During my career, sometimes BM school was only open to Reserve members. Are there many people on the list? When I was in recruiting, by far the most asked about three ratings were Marine Science Technician, Aviation Survival Technician, and Boatswain's Mate. And as I'm sure you know, I was asked about law enforcement more than anything else.

I often get asked recruiting questions about the regular Coast Guard when helping out at boat shows with the Coast Guard Auxiliary (deja vu of my assignments in recruiting!) and it's good to be up on things. Thanks.
 
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Thank you for the links. I was able to find the info I needed. I have since talked to my local recruiter and he was very helpful. I am planning to visit the local PSU this week with a co-worker who is part of the unit to get a 'tour'.

I have another question, if you don't mind. I am tentatively qualified to apply for ROCI, and on a good timeline to do so for next year's class. My recruiter suggested I could enlist now as a petty officer; while I complete the ROCI process. Is this a smart thing to do if my ultimate goal is to receive a commission? Will I be less likely to be accepted if I am already serving as a petty officer? What if my unit is deployed? Would that set me back a year in the process?

Okay that is more than one question! If anyone else that has been in my position can answer as well, I would appreciate the input!

Thank you.

P.S.
Also wondering about what kind of swim quals are necessary for PSU's.....thank you!
 
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I was released from the Coast Guard 29DEC00

It was for a medical reason: Past Seizure Disorder. I was released with Medication however I was directed to stop the medication as soon as I found out I was pregnant. That was 08SEP00

(Put on Medication AUG00)

An EEG was done in April and in June that was returned Negatively.

I was always told never to sign things I did not want to so I never did.

I have yet to receive my DD-215 (believe that is the one been a lil while hehe)
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I would like to re join the Coast Guard however is that even possible?

Further more i want ot go to A-school HS if that was possible.

Do I open my mouth and say I never received or just stay quiet?

Very confused still.

Confused
 
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Sorry for the delay in answering your post, have been under the weather the past few days, working from home right now. Currently the BM school has 2 facets to it. It has some QM and BM learning objectives in the school. Currently there are no slots available to be guaranteed to applicants but once in a member can put their name on the waiting list or strike. I know what you mean about people asking about the 3 jobs, AST,MST and BM. Usually I get alot of questions about the missions and how people want to do those. SAR, LE, Marine Safety, Enviormental Protection and Homeland Security. I always direct them to the website to check on the career fields and see if any of those interest them and try and point them in a direction that would fit thier needs. There is still a wait for MST, AST and BM. Hope this helps. PO1 Kalbach
 
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You are actually tentatively qual'd for the Select Reserve Direct Commission Program. It is the only program that has the Reserve Officer Candidate Indoctrination. As far as going enlisted, why not, you get experience in the Coast Guard at the PSU, and you can still put your package in. You sign a statement of understanding saying that if you get picked up as an Officer you will first get discharge as an enlisted, so being enlisted won't hurt your chances. But it's up to you. As far as the swim requirements, ask when you go to the PSU. PO1 Kalbach
 
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We just had an all-hands here at TRACEN Yorktown, and the CO gave us the low-down on some of the plus ups in the "A" schools: MST will double its throughput for FY 2004, and the BMs will increase by one and a half times as well...I forgot the actual numbers he gave us.

In a nutshell, the plus-ups will directly affect the training center in the next two years as it tries to keep up with the significant increase in the size of the CG.
 
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Do I open my mouth and say I never received or just stay quiet?

This statement in itself bothers me. You know the core values of the Coast Guard. Honor, Respect and Devotion to duty. So I'm curious why you would want to hide anything. If you tried to enlist and actually did without saying you had been in before and was discharged, that is grounds for fraudulent enlistment. As far as your "DD214" you should have received a copy at time of discharge and then a full copy of it with RE code, and character of service should have been sent to your home of record. But you do state in your post it was for past seizure disorder. Did this disorder happen before you even joined the Coast Guard? Sorry for all the questions, but you were quite vague in your post.

"Quote" I was always told never to sign things I did not want to so I never did.

What exactly does that comment mean?? If you want to try and get back in the Coast Guard, you will need your DD214, and any medical documentation stating you do not have a seizure disorder, as far as the HS school, once you were in you'd have to put your name on the waiting list. These are the best answers I can give you with the information you provided me. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I am not sure if you got my email I sent you but I'll ask you again if you didn't. Actually more like tell you my slight problem.

I am in the USNR, enlisted in 2002 Nov., I go to a 2 week boot camp in June. I orignally wanted to go CG Active, but at the time CG wouldn't take me because I was over weight but more importantly I was on probation for a DUI (I have since got off probation 2 years early and all fines paid). I have read past posts about 'run-ins with the law' and how it doesn't particularly look good but at the time the recruiter metioned it wouldn't be a problem I could just get a wavier. I got a wavier from the Navy, hence I joined them because they were willing to take me while on probation. But now that I am no longer on probation and my experience with the Navy isn't what I have thought it would be I want to know can I transfer to the CG. I also will be going to the California Maritime Academy (I am getting a degree in Marine Transportation with a minor in Maritime Law) in the fall...this now gives me the option to pursue a commission...But I am aiming for a CG commission, not Navy.
You also have metioned the Core Values of the CG and I know I haven't done the best to exemplify those values nor the USN Core Values. So I guess my question would be should I even bother to pursue my real dream of being in the CG?, given my standing with the USN. My contract is for 8 years and if I wait till its up I know I will regret it later.
I kick myself in the rear for putting myself in this sort of position but hopefully I can switch over to the CG.
Any insight would be great and otherwise very helpful.
You can email at Volvalexdj@aol.com
or respond back here.
By the way keep up the good work of answering everyones questions!

Thanks again!
 
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Thanks for the updated info. Can't wait for it to trickle down to the RO's. Of course you know how that goes sometimes. Looks like we will be really busy quite soon. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I have not been in the office this week due to illness, so I have not been able to get my email. But my question to you is this, how were you able to get your 2 year probation waived? The reason the Coast Guard would not work with you was the fact you were on probation, I'm sure the Navy Reserve wouldn't take you either if you were overweight. But they can work miracles other ways. Since the Coast Guard has the Federal Law Enforcement aspect to it's mission, it screens applicants differently. It has to make sure that the applicant can enforce local,state and federal laws on themselves first, because they may have to do it to others. So your situation is this, you signed your contract with the Navy November 2002, are you a drilling resevist? I know you stated that you will attend their 2 week boot camp in June 2003. Here's how it would work, you would need a DD368 from the command you are at, to conditionally release you so the Coast Guard could work on an accession package. But since you just recently joined don't count to much on that happening, especially if they spend money to send you 2 weeks to boot camp. My real concern is how you got rid of your 2 year probation for the DUI. That can be a factor in joining the Coast Guard as well. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Thanks for the reply Petty Officer Kalbach, much appreciated! Hope that you are feeling better now.

Yeah, I was often asked about how to get into search and rescue as well. Also, there were times when I wished that the description of the Reserve only Investigator Rating wasn't in the Opportunities For Action (now called Jobs That Matter) booklet. I was asked about that rating all the time too, and as you know, it is only open to men and women joining the Coast Guard Reserve with prior experience. It was diffcult to explain all the whys and wherefors of it. Many young men and women asked me if the Port Security Rating was available in the Regular Coast Guard, and then expressed disappointment when I told them it was not.

You are passing out some good information, keep up the great work.
 
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I mean no disrespect whatsoever, if that is how it came across I completely apologize.

I only asked questions that were flying around me of everyone. (TAPS instructor included)

If you see something that you feel is unjust not to sign. I never received that chance. I was never handed anything. "DD-214"

I do not know what to expect if I call or write in letter as to what would happen in that process.

I was a child when I had petit mal seizures. All cleared in 1994. I had to get all sorts of differnt documentation for that in order to get in.

When I got in, reported to first unit 09Nov99 then on 20JAN00 I hit my head and because of that moment I was put on Light duty, restricted to certain activites because of my past even though I was cleared to enter USCG. I was released from active duty on 29DEC00 through the entire time I was sent to Dr after DR , Academy, VA, private sector. All test results (EEG LABS exams) came back normal.

Dr at Academy, said we will be putting you on medication as a precaution.
She clearly stated to me that there was no indication what so ever there was any seizure activity going on. She also stated that everything appeared normal.

I am simply looking for guidance.

In one respect I would love to be active duty I love the Jobs I love the duties, there is no doubt in that.

Other respect husband is deploed on a ship ATM and our daughter is under one year.

Again, I mean no disrespect at all.

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
 
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Ok I have a friend in Kings Point USMMA he is not a US Citizen or a legal resident alien he just won a scholarship. He is being ask to join the Coast Guard. He is from Panama.
I would like to know:

1) Is it possible for him to join?
2) Was this petition made to him because he is Panamanian and CG needs personnel to deal with drug traffic from Colombia? I mean, Do CG needs people from around that place?
 
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thanks for the reply.
I requested over and over agin for it to be dropped due to the fact that I wanted to enlist. So after about 6 attempts and I think my ongoing persistance they released me from probation early. Yes I am a drilling reservist.

I spoke to CG recruiter the other day and he stated that it is fairly easy to obtain a DD368. He said that I would be getting it from him and then he would send it to the USNR(he didn't say to whom or where though it would be sent). How true this is, I don't know. I will be calling or going to the recruiter tomorrow to discuss this further with them.

I am not sure if I had metioned this but I will be going to a maritime academy in the fall and they have a commissioning program that I am interested in. From my understanding of it I would eventually need to switch over to the CG at some point...that is if I qualify for the CG. My run-in's with the law were when I was young and didn't know better. Aren't waviers given to a select few you have had run-ins with the law?

I love the CG because I feel as if they are really making a difference in peoples lives. They protect and serve everyday!
I hopefully will be able to pursue my dream of the USCG. GO COASTIES!

Thanks again!
 
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oh yeah,

In regards to weight, at the time I was trying to enlist I was about 50lbs overweight, I have since dropped the weight and am under the Navy Standards for my height. With that said I would assume I am under the weight standards for the CG.

Also, my PFT scores are all about good high...I think that I would be a good canidate for the CG....hopefuly!
Thanks Agian
 
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You have a questions that has me totally stumped. Who is asking your friend to join the Coast Guard? I know of no special programs that allow non-green card holding persons or non US citizens to join the Coast Guard. How did he/she win the scholarship. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I answered you via email. If I haven't answered all your questions, please let me know. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Don't worry didn't take offense or think you were disrespectful. Here's the deal and you can send your replies via email if you'd like, but I need some questions answered so I can direct you to the right people.

1. Were you medically discharged.

2. If so, did you go before a medical board.

3. Were you ever presented the opportunity to sign a DD214?

Since you went through TAPS class you were told your benefits/opportunities. But just so we are clear if you want any chance of rejoining the Coast Guard you need a DD214. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Don't worry didn't take offense or think you were disrespectful. Here's the deal and you can send your replies via email if you'd like, but I need some questions answered so I can direct you to the right people.

1. Were you medically discharged.

2. If so, did you go before a medical board.

3. Were you ever presented the opportunity to sign a DD214?

Since you went through TAPS class you were told your benefits/opportunities. But just so we are clear if you want any chance of rejoining the Coast Guard you need a DD214. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I am intending to be joining the Reserves this summer, hopefully heading off to Cape May in June. I am 20 y/o and currently a college student at a 4-year university. I graduated with an AAS in Diesel Equipment Technology and have had a wide variety on many different areas, such as HVAC, hydraulics, elec controls, tune-up, PM, etc, etc...
I have a great mechanical apptitude and really good academics as well. My cum GPA for the AAS was 3.93. I will be taking the ASVAB this next week, so not sure yet on my scores from that. Plus I REALLY like being diversified, challenged, and doing WHATEVER it takes to get the job done and the equipment fixed. Basically, the MK description is the story of my life.

One minor issue is that I have some difficulty differentiating between red & green at times, though I guess I will find out at my MEPS physical the extent of my color-blindness. I have never found this to be at all a problem with what I have done for the past two years and don't foresee it to be, but seems to me that the MK rating may be restricted only to normal color-vision applicants. My recruiter also seemed to think this might make me ineligible as an MK, but I really haven't been able to find any specifics.

1) Can anyone comment on this...Is MK really strict about perfect color-vision? Or might there be a possibility that with my backgruond and apptitude that perhaps I can get over this?

2) Does any MK foresee this to be an issue, in that even if I was to be able to get over the restriction, do you think it might seriously interfere with me being able to accomplish my job? I have never found it to be a problem (even working on computer controlled engines, becuase the connector pins are usually numbered). BUT, being able to do the job is what is most important, so I want to know honestly if you see this differently, that is, that perhaps this might be a problem.

3) Plan B...what other ratings might be an option if it is? I looked at maybe DC, but don't really see that to be me. Is GM similiar, but just working on firearms and such equipment? I noticed it was related to mechanics and hydraulics also, but did not seem as diversified and offering as much overall responsibility as the MK, both in mechanical & overall responsibility, leadership.

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Frank,

I believe your recruiter is wrong. The MK rating doesn't require normal color vision. When I was in recruiting duty, I had to address similar issues from several color-blind applicants. So, unless CG Commandant has changed the requirements for this rating, you should ask your recruiter to verify this.

The only restrictions on MK's who are color-blind is that this would hinder them from being assigned to small boat stations because as an MK, you are also required to be both a boat engineer and a crew member/boarding team member/boarding officer also. The nature of maritime law enforcement and small boat crew members in general requires all BO's and BTM's to have normal color vision. Having said that, color-blind MK's can still serve on our TACLET's, MSST's and counter-narcotics teams...how weird?

Being in the reserves, you'll probably be assigned to one of a CG Group's engineering departments or even a Marine Safety Office maintenance department.

Hope this helps...
 
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I noticed you can answer a lot of Coast Guard questions, and I have three any help would be great. I have been talking to a recruiter, but I dont think she knows what she is doing. She has sent me the wrong papers and told me to fill them out wrong three times delaying me about three months. My first question is when I sent in my papers, I think I forgot to put down 2 jobs I had, would this be any problem? Second, I went to the doctor a few years ago and he told me I had osteoarthritis in the knees, he told me to change my workout routine and I did and have had no problems since. My recruiter told me not to worry about telling meps since there was no surgery. Is this true? And third, I was wondering on college money for reserve and enlisted. Sorry for the long post, but I dont really like my recruiter. Thanks for any help.
 
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I'm sorry your having difficulty with your recruiter. You should mention your concerns to her, so she can do better in the future. I'm not quite sure what program you are shooting for in the Coast Guard, but it is always good to get all your experience into each package, so I would make sure the 2 jobs get in.

Second, this is the big one. This is straight from the Coast Guard Medical Manual.


The causes for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction are as follows:

(2) Chronic osteoarthritis(715.3) or traumatic arthritis(716.1) of isolated joints of more than a minimal degree, that has interfered with the following of a physically active vocation in civilian life or that prevents the satisfactory performance of military duty.

So you need to tell MEPS about this, so they can evaluate how bad your arthritis is. If you don't say anything and your condition gets worse into your career you can be discharged for fraudulent enlistment for not disclosing a pre exsisting condition. And then not receive any benefits.

Third, for the Active duty college funds, their is the Montgomery GI Bill, where you pay $100, a month for 1 year and recieve up to 35000.00 in benefits, also there is up to $4500. a year tuition assistance.

The Reserve has Montgomery Gi Bill as well but you pay nothing into it, and the benefits is around 12000.00, but there is tuition assitance of up to 4500.00 a year. Hope this helps. Remember the golden rule, if you have seen a doctor, tell MEPS, because their is documentation floating around. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Thanks for the help. I like asking questions here because I dont think people here will screw me around. Thanks.
 
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Sorry, I thought about it and I have another question, when I tell meps about the osteoarthritis, would I have to get a waiver and if so, how does that work/
 
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MEPS will either request a waiver or won't request. If they request a waiver you will have to get all medical documentation on your arthritis and your recruiter will submit that the to the Coast Guards Chief Medical Office for review and either approval or denial.

I forgot to mention that you need to provide MEPS with the medical documentation on your condition before you take your physical. Sorry for leaving that out. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Per Coast Guard Recruiting Manual (revision dated 15 August 2001) the following ratings need normal color vision: AMT, AVT, AST, BM, EM, ET, GM, HS, IT, MK, OS, and PA. Also if a person becomes an MST they cannot advance to CWO(BOSN), and cannot attend OCS or the Academy. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I know I've been bugging you a lot, but, I was wondering what kind of shape I will need to be in for the CG, or what I can do to help myself. I lift weights at the gym 3-5 days a week, but, I dont know what else I should do. I talked to my recruiter and everything is looking good for once and I think theres a good chance I will leave about May 20th (as long as all is good at meps). So if you could give me any pointers that would be a big help. Sorry to be bothersome with dumb questions.
 
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Be able to:

Do 29 pushups in 1 minute
38 situps in 1 minute
1.5 mile run, in 12:51 minutes
Complete swim circuit, jump off 5 ft platform into pool, swim 100 meters, and tread water for 5 minutes.

Cardio exercises I find are the best, but since I'm not a licensed physical trainer can't give you to much guidance on how to get into shape. But hope this helps. Good luck at MEPS. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I really need some answers about joining the reserves as an "RK." Basically, here is my situation and what I am got from my recruiter.

I'm 20, want to join the CG reserves and my intentions are to try to go full-time after completing my BA (I have a AAS in Diesel Equipment Tech now, and I am at a freshman level at a 4-year Univ). To put it simply, as of next fall, I would not be concerned at all of possibily being called to active duty, though I would still not have my BA yet. HOWEVER, there are several reasons, primarily academic, that I was hoping there was a way to join the reserves now without the possibility of being called up before next summer. I was given the impression that the RK program would allow...then I hear otherwise. I guess I could just wait until next summer to enlist, but isn't there a way to work it out so that I could start my drilling, weekends, training, etc, now so that come next fall I would be that much more beneficial to the Coast Guard rather than just starting off then? To sum it up, is there a way I can get into the CG now as a reserve and be able to go a year without being called up. I would think it would be better for both myself and the Coast Guard to be able to start now.

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If you enlist in the Coast Guard Reserve you are committing 8 years of service to the Coast Guard. 6 years of Select Reserve, (2 weeks a year, a weekend a month) and 2 years of Inactive Reserve, where you do nothing. When you sign your contract for this you also sign an annex stating that you understand that if the Coast Guard needs you, you can be called to Active duty. Now just because you join the Reserve and want to go active later won't guarantee this. The Reserve will have invested some good money in you and might not want to let you go. Active and Reserve have 2 seperate pots of money to work from. You may be activated under title10, or request and Extended Active duty assignment as a Reserve but that is not long term, usually 1 or 2 years.

There is a program called RK to Active that has been in the experimental stages and the Coast Guard is trying it again this year, when I get inot the office tommorrow I will do some research for you and let you know how that works. But again I want to emphasize that if you join the Reserve you do have the possibility of being called to active duty, and that you are not guaranteed to get to go active once in the Reserve. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I can't tell who's asking him to join...I don't know that..I havent spoken with him recently. Concerning the thing about the scholarship.....I think theres is a program of the Academy that gives 2 scholarships per year to people in Panama. You can check at the USMMA web page. He just applied for it and had all the requirements.
 
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PO1 Kalbach,

Thank you for the info...The idea of Actives & Reserves being seperate like that is new to me. I had pretty much heard that if I am performing well and have a good attitude as a reserve than why wouldn't the CG want me to stay on full-time.

As regards the "RK to Active"...Is this a program for full time active enlistments? I thought this was for reservists...?

If I would like to go active later on, what might you suggest for a current college student (if not reserves now)? What about the CSPI program/scholarship? I had looked into that at one point (academically, it does not seem I would have a problem). How can I find out if my school qualifies (the minority enrollment is @ 27-28%). What I had preferred about the reserves route was that I would get to start serving now, rather than have to wait. If I qualified for the CSPI, what would my commitment be after the 3 years as commissioned officer?

Thanks again. I really appriciate all the help.

Frank
 
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PO1, thanks for the RECMAN update. Funny, I got out of recruiting on June2001, so I just missed the new thing about MK's needing normal color vision. Again, thanks for keeping me straight! Wink
 
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Your welcome. Stand by, I've heard there is going to be more changes in the near future. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Hi, I'm graduating college (economics) next winter, and I'm in the position where I'm not exactly thrilled about being a pencil-pusher, and I feel a strong desire to serve my country. So I'm thinking about the military, particularly the Coast Guard and Air Force. From what I've read, my GPA and experience are a little on the low side to be an officer, therefore I'd most likely enlist. I was wondering how college grads enjoyed being enlistedmen compared to high school grads. I don't mean to sound elitist or anything, but my dad was drafted (Air Force)while in college and said he felt out of place. I don't know if he's being snobby, and I know the military has changed (much higher standards) over the last 30 years. I'd appreciate any advice or input as to how things are now. I'm sure it's different for every individual, but I'd like to get a general feel for how it'd be before I sign up. Thanks!
 
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Viking_Pete, today's enlisted workforce is a lot more educated and more sophisticated than the enlisted from years past. Several career enlisted members have 4-year degrees, some have masters, and a rare few even have PhD's. It's common nowadays among enlisted to not pursue a commission even though we have the degrees to show for it...it's a matter of personal choice.

Don't feel left out or different if you're hangin' out with people who are just high school grads...in the field, it doesn't matter. You'll realize that y'all share some very common interests irregardless of your educational backgrounds.

Having your BA in economics will provide you with a future benefit wherein if you excel as an enlisted, you may consider applying for OCS in the near future. At that point, the board will put alot more weight on your past enlisted performance rather than your low GPA. It'll all work out if you can sustain a high level of performance.
 
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Ditto on what COASTIE said. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Thanks for the assurance, COAST1E. That was the impression I've been getting recently, particularly seeing how our servicemen are performing in Iraq. I just want to get the best idea of my possible future in the military before I'd sign my mid-twenties over to Uncle Sam. I've got another question or two: I'm a little fuzzy on how job selection works in the CG. The ratings that appeal to me most are Marine Science and Radarman (I like playing with science and technology stuff). So would I pick a rating and then go into DEP until it's available, or would I go straight to basic and figure everything out there? Also, how long is one generally away from port? Is it common to spend weeks on the water at a time? Also, I hear stories from the Navy about life getting monotonous onboard ships--how does the CG compare to these rumors I've heard? Thanks again for answering my questions!
 
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OK, a couple more questions to add to the list. Would I be eligible for advanced rank because of college credit? Is there a college loan repayment program like the other services? Are there signing bonuses? Debt piles on pretty quickly in school, and I'd like to know how I'd be able to repay loans. Thanks! ~Pete~
 
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Here are the answers to your questions:

Job selection, since you have a few that interest you most your are ahead of alot of people who don't quite know what they want to do. First step, you have to take the ASVAB to see what you qualify for. Then you take a medical physical to make sure you are medically qualified. Then you sit down with you recruiter and go over your options. Since MST is a very popular job, their are currently no guaranteed A schools for active duty, after boot camp. And Radarman is now Operations Specialist(OS). OS currently has no schools scheduled to be guaranteed after boot camp either. So at the time you sit down with the recruiter and this is still the case you would have different options to look at. Since you will have a BA you will be able to enlist as an E-3. Depending on your ASVAB score you could also look at getting a guaranteed district for you first unit. So after you have got all your options covered you would go to boot camp then your first unit. At your unit you would put your name on either the MST or OS school list and wait till your name comes up to go. Since you will be an E-3 you get to put your name up immediately.

Here is a "typical" underay schedule for the different cutters in the fleet. "DISCLAIMER" it does not always go this way, breakdowns on cutters, increased mission load, national emergencies, weather etc can change this.
(3) Polar class icebreakers: 6 months either north or south, with downtime anywhere from 3-6 months or longer in port.
(12) High Endurance cutters: 2 1/2 - 3 month patrols, Alaska, Hawaii, Mexico, South America, Mediterranen with equal downtime in port, (1) cutter might get underway with a Naval Battle group for 6 months for training, every year
Approx(30) Medium Endurance Cutters: 1 1/2 - 3 months underway, with equal downtime in port,
225ft bouy tenders: approx(20) 1 1/2- 2 month patrols, with equal downtime inport
180ft bouy tenders:approx(15) same as above
Patrol Boats: quite a few, 2-3 weeks typically, beeper duty , usually same downtime inport.
Thats just a sampling of cutters. The Coast Guard does currently have cutters involved in Operation Iraqi Freedom also. Coast Guard sea time beats Navy sea time hands down, I happen to have 1st hand knowledge of this. I spent 4 1/2 yrs on Navy destroyer. Can sea time be monotonous on a cutter, sure it can, but I tell you what the cutters have morale officers and a committee and they do a pretty good job of breaking up that monotony. As far as bonus's are concerned. Well bonus's come and go with availability, you'll have to ask your recruiter what is available at the time. But remember bonus's can be good in the short term, but the money always runs out and then your stuck with whatever your agreed to do to get that bonus. Just some food for thought when making a decision. Last but not least, the Coast Guard does not have a college loan repayment program. Hope this helped. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Thanks for giving me a better idea of what life is like and the process of joining the CG. I agree with you fully about the money issue--I wouldn't want to commit to something that makes me miserable for 4 years over a couple thousand bucks. But it's a consideration nonetheless, at least for planning purposes. The CG sounds pretty exciting and fulfilling. I'll have to think long and hard to see if it's for me. Maybe I'll stop by the local CG Station here on Lake Michigan and talk with the guys & gals to get a better feel for things. Also, is there a particularly better time to enlist as far as getting assignment/school preferences? I was thinking if I were to enlist, I'd do it in September-October, before I graduate in December. Is there an advantage in doing it earlier?
 
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Hey PO1Kalbach, its me again. I got the records on my knee problem and I found out its not osteoarthritis, its called chondromalacia. Ive found it all over the internet. Like I said before I havnt really had any problems with them since 99, but I was reading the records and the doc said "With the degree of mal-alignment that he has he may eventually come to an extensor realignment procedure." In other words, surgery. That have to cut and realign the muscles above and below my knee. With what he put in the records, is that an immediate dq, or do I still have a chance.

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You can go into the DEP anytime but October starts the new fiscal year so there is more opportunities for A schools and bonus's. Where about's are you from. I was stationed in Michigan on a cutter and Wisconsin at a small boat station. Both were great duty. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Since I'm not a medical doctor the best I can advise is get with your recruiter, give him/her the medical documents so MEPS doctors can review them on this matter. I can't find your exact ailment in the Medical Manual, but like I've stated not a MD so might be looking in the wrong spot. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it very much. You have been a big help for me. I live over here in Florida so I cant talk to my recruiter till tomorrow. Thanks and I will let you know what happens when I find out.
 
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I'm from Milwaukee, WI. I can imagine the Great Lakes being a pretty nice duty--except for all those illegal Canadian immigrants canoeing over. Gotta watch out for them, usually armed with hockey sticks and whatnot. I think I'd want to get out of the midwest, though. You know, see a bit of the world that doesn't involve so much corn. Although, there are some nice ammenities here; what's the quality like of the beer, cheese, and bratwursts in the CG? Hmm, and I'd probably be in the minority as a Packers fan... Oh well, at least there's probably good fishing wherever one's stationed, eh? Big Grin
 
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There is a program called RK to Active that has been in the experimental stages and the Coast Guard is trying it again this year, when I get inot the office tommorrow I will do some research for you and let you know how that works. But again I want to emphasize that if you join the Reserve you do have the possibility of being called to active duty, and that you are not guaranteed to get to go active once in the Reserve. PO1 Kalbach


Just wanted to check if you had a chance to find anything more about the RK program. Thanks
Frank
 
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Hey, I e-mailed you my information as you said a few days back and you said you would get me in touch with my recruiter.

I was just wondering if you have had a chance to call the nearest office yet? I tried calling again today, with the same outcome (I get a pre-recorded message and it says to press 1 for this recruiter, 2 for the next and such... I press the number and the phone clicks a few times then hangs up). I got an e-mail reply from the Santa Monica Recruiter, telling me that the Ventura recruiter was in charge of my area, but whats funny is Santa Monica is much closer then Ventura.

Also, I have a question about waivers and such.

I had surgery when I was 4 years old "hydrocele", and it is all healed now. But when I go to MEPS, I know the doctors will want documents to see how the operation went. Well, since it was so long ago, I have lost all documents, and the person that had the documents (my mother) died less then a year after my operation. My father does not remember the doctors name, but he does remember how the operation went.

I know you are not a doctor, but from your recruiting experience, do you think that I would be able to get past the physical examination at MEPS if I get a notarized explanation from my father about the operation and why we could not obtain the medical documents? If not, could I obtain some sort of waiver?

If possible, is there some place I dont know about that I might be able to obtain the medical records?

I appreciate your replies as they have helped me greatly, and I must say that all of the Coast Guard members on this board represent themselves very well and I hope one day I can do the same.

Regards, Seth A.
 
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I was wondering, what is the housing situation like in the CG (both on and off ship)? Is it dorm-style, single rooms, shared apartments, or something else? If the housing is off-base, is an automobile generally a necessity? Also, how are work hours scheduled? Does it tend to be a bunch of shorter shifts (like 5 ten hour shifts) or fewer longer shifts (like 4 sixteen hour shifts) or a lot of longer shifts? I'm trying to get a better picture of the CG lifestyle/culture, so any other advice on this would be appreciated. Thanks again for answering my questions.
 
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CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!!! If you put your daughter down on the BAH/Dependent/Emergency Data sheet and she is "dependent" on you for support then yes you will get BAH w/dependent rate. And you can start an allotment out of your pay, to have sent to her. Hope that helps and have a great learning experience at boot camp. PO1 Kalbach


This is innacurate.

Unless the member has FULL custody, as stipulated in a notarized document or court documentation, they will not get BAH with dependents rate.

Even if a member has joint custody of the child, the child must reside with the member at their address for a minimum of 90 days per DODFMR before they will be entitled to BAH with dependents rate.

(This is assuming that the member is not married to the mother)

If the member is paying child support they are entitled to BAQ DIFF, which is an offset to single BAH.

The requirements to get BAQ are the following:

Member must be paying an amount greater than or equal to the BAQ DIFF entitlement based on their rank. If they pay less than their entitlement then they are entitled to nothing.

Also, the amount must be stipulated in writing on a divorce decree or custody agreement from the courts. Even if the member has an allotment they are not entitled to this unless they have the court documents stipulating the amount they are to pay!

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Thank you so much for the clarification of BAH. I have redoubled my efforts to make sure I provide the most accurate information possible to pass along. I have researched the Coast Guard Pay and Personnel Manual and feel confident that I can relay good info on the subject of BAH.


For the general public, I feel confident that the individual that asked the BAH question back in Sept 02, was told the correct BAH policy at boot camp. I have reposted the question asked, and the correct answer PO Whitman provided for all to view.

Quote:The waiver went through (as expected) and now it's official!! And yes he got me in Oct 29th.
Thought of another question for ya, I have a 5 year old daughter, she lives with her mom and they are not comming with me when I leave, my question is do I still get the "with dependant" status even if they are staying here? Like for BAH, do I get it with the "with dependant"? Also child support, does or can the military automatically withdrawl this from pay or do I have to send checks every month?
Thanks again PO1

Quote:This is innacurate.

Unless the member has FULL custody, as stipulated in a notarized document or court documentation, they will not get BAH with dependents rate.

Even if a member has joint custody of the child, the child must reside with the member at their address for a minimum of 90 days per DODFMR before they will be entitled to BAH with dependents rate.

(This is assuming that the member is not married to the mother)

If the member is paying child support they are entitled to BAQ DIFF, which is an offset to single BAH.

The requirements to get BAQ are the following:

Member must be paying an amount greater than or equal to the BAQ DIFF entitlement based on their rank. If they pay less than their entitlement then they are entitled to nothing.

Also, the amount must be stipulated in writing on a divorce decree or custody agreement from the courts. Even if the member has an allotment they are not entitled to this unless they have the court documents stipulating the amount they are to pay!

-PO2 Whitman
Thanks again for clarifying this for me. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Sorry for the delay in getting answers for the RK to Active program. This is for people that want to go Active but for a year they are in the Reserve drilling 1 day a month at the nearest recruiting office. I also have some websites to see if your college qualifies for the CSPI program.

www.Petersons.com, do a college search

www.dtic.mil/dtic/hbcumi/minorityinst.pdf, this Dept of Education site

http://mured.nasaprs.com/institutions/index.cfm, can print state by state colleges, talk to your recruiter about the RK to active if that is your ultimate goal to go active.

I restate that if you go reserve, there is no guarantee no matter how hard chargin, how dedicated you are that the reserve unit you are in will release you to go active. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I called the office in Oxnard, CA. Give them another call, I provided their direct number, they also said they would call you. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Depending on where you are stationed at will depend on what the housing situation is and also your marital and dependent status. There is some Coast Guard housing at different units for families, usually quads and houses, sometimes an apartment. For single's usually their is space at the unit on ships the Coast Guard will lease places for members to go. I know this isn't very specific but each unit is different. As far as shifts, you get paid 24/7 so you have to be available 24/7. Depending again on the unit, will determine you schedule. A typical small boat unit can work a schedule of two days on two day off, with every other weekend off. A cutter has two many different schedules to go over, but usually underway you work the most hours, because you stand watchs. I suggest since you are on Lake Michigan, to take a road trip to a Coast Guard unit or units. And ask the people that work their about these things. Here are some locations: Sturgeon Bay,Two Rivers, Milwaukee, Kenosha, Willemette, Calumet, Michigan City, Grand Haven, Traverse City,Charlevoix. Hope this helps. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Upon further review of Coast Guard Medical Manual M6000.1B and help from my Recruiter in Charge on Chondromalacia.

11. Miscellaneous Conditions of the Extremities. The causes for rejection for appointment,enlistment, and induction are:

e. Chondromalacia: manifested by authenticated history of chronic pain, joint effusion, interference with function, residuals from sugery, or x-ray changes. PO1 Kalbach
 
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After considering some of the points you mentioned, PO Kalbach, I am trying to re-discern whether reserves is the best way for me to go at this time or if I should wait. It seems to me the RK program is actually an active duty program (I had been told it was for reservists) where a Cape May grad drills for a year before going active. This may be the best course for me so I could join a year before completing my BA, and then be "guarenteed" to go active after.

As far as the CSPI...well actually my school, University of Dallas, was not listed (though I was told it has a 27-28% minority enrollment). Also, I may not even qualifiy (see below), but doesn't this restriction seem a little not in keeping with the CG's "...does not discriminate on the basis of race...everyone has equal opportunity for advancment & promotion....you'll go as far as your skills, talents, ambition can take you..." This just came to my mind when I read about the minority restriction, I am not asking for an answer to this.

Well based on my day at MEPS, I pretty much passed everything just fine except for the color-vision test, which I kinda expected. I scored 98 on the ASVAB. I've heard different stories about the MK rating restricted to normal color vision. Some say it is closed, others say I would be restricted as to which type of duty stations I could work at.

1) Are waivers a possibility as far as getting into the MK rating? In addition to my ASVAB scores, I also have my college GPA (3.93) and Diesel Equipment AAS degree (which is actually as diverse in subject material as the entire MK job description, not just diesel engines) which I had hoped might provided some additional leverage??

2) CSPI, OCS...Is color-vision absolutely mandatory for officer eligibility? What about warrant officer?

I really do appriciate all the help you've given me so far. Thank you,

Frank

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I wish you were my recruiter. I think you have been a better help than the one I have. You have been great at getting answers for me. I sent my medical transcripts last Friday and she said she could get me in to meps on Thursday morning. She said that she would send the papers in for approval and let me know. How long should it take to see if I can even go to meps. Its Wednesday (well now Thursday 1am) and she said that I would be able to take my physical today (I know not now). Did I automatically get dq'ed for the chondromalacia in my knees and she doesnt care to tell me. From what you said in your most recent post, it kind sounds like Im out of it. Do you think this is true? What ever the outcome I appriciate your help, you need recruiter of the year or something like that. Thanks for your help.
 
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The Seattle MEPS requires medical documents to be submitted 48 hours in advance for review. I'm not sure if this is SOP for all MEPS but you should know by Friday, if not call your recruiter. The chondromalacia most likely will DQ you, but remember recruiters aren't doctors so wait to hear from your recruiter what MEPS says. Best of luck. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I spoke with the Senior Chief Recruiter yesterday, and he is going to send me some info on when and where I can take my ASVAB.

Thanks for getting in touch with him. He seems like hes an honest guy, and we had a very promisable conversation.

So hopefully I can get on with the process and be able to join. One thing that sucks is I have to make it down to take the ASVAB myself, as opposed to other branches recruiters in which they drive you.

But I will find a way to get down there.

One question though... If I were to enlist for 6 years, when would I be designated as an E-3? Would it be automatically? Because I was hoping to be able to put my name on the list for the A-School training I want before I leave for boot camp.

My reasoning is because the year is coming to an end, and I dont want to enter boot camp as an E-1, and then have to wait at least 6 months until I can even try to put my name on a waiting list for A-School training.

The main job I want to do is MST. However if it is necessary I think I would also enjoy FS, PA, or possibly YN.
 
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Glad the meeting went well. Your desire to make it to take the ASVAB and medical physical on your own will show your desire to join the Coast Guard. As far as E-3 for 6 years, think long and hard on this one. I usually only recommend the 6 year to people that have a long wait for an A school such as AST,AMT and AVT. Sometimes even PA which is really hard to get into. MST is a good job the wait isn't as long. Let me be the first to say that thinking FS might be fun, you need to really like to cook. If you want more info on FS, you can ask me anything. You will get paid for E-3 the minute you raise your right hand. As far as putting your name on the waiting list, you first have to make it though boot camp, then to your first unit. Hope this helps. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Well I dont think a 6-year enlistment would bother me, but the only reason I was thinking of it was because the year is coming to an end, And if I can get passed boot camp, and make it to E-3 before the years up then I will be able to put my name on the MST A-School this year.

If I enter as an E-1, and then when I graduate boot camp ill be E-2, I will have to wait until I get promoted to E-3 before I go to an A-School, is that correct?
 
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PO1Kalbach,

I have had high cholesterol for many years now; I first found out about my condition when I was still in the Marines. I have been on a light dose of medication for five years to keep my numbers low. Would this disqualify me from entering the Coast Guard?
 
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gqmarine

I know this firsthand because both my parents had a condition called 'diverticulitis'. Don't laugh, but a naturally occurring side effect of Metamucil is lowered cholesterol. It's available in pill form now, keeps the plumbing flowing, and it lowers your cholesterol. Now how 'bout that?
 
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You may have a chance. If you were a new recruit it would be disqualifying because you can't join if on any type of medication to control a pre-existing condition, but since you are prior service it will depend on severity, type of medication etc. You should see your local recruiter and have them do a medical prescreen so MEPS can review. Just takes some time out of your day. Let me know how it goes. PO1 Kalbach
 
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PO1 Kalbach,

I am having problems with the recruiter I am currently dealing with. This recruiter doesen't return my phone calls. I have only talked to her twice on the phone for only a minute a two each time and have said nothing beyond giving her my address and status of DD-214. I should mention that my DD-214 is in good shape (RE-1A, honorable discharge, etc.) and no trouble with the law. I have also been attending college. I considered myself a good prospect for the Coast Guard. Anyway, I went down to the office to talk in person. The recruiter was not in, but the Chief was. We talked for a very brief time and all was well until he found out I was 31 years old and prior service. He suddenly seem to lose interest and I began to feel like I was wasting his time. I am hoping you can tell me the truth about the Coast Guard and how they handle prior-service people. I understand that I can discuss the problem with the next in the chain-of-command, but I would like your imput first.
 
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2583913,
Have you been to www.CoastGuardOCS.com? If not, i recommend it.
 
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Please email me with yourentire situation, when you started taking your meds for high colesterol, how long in Marines, what rank, MOS, marital status, and I will give you your options on prior service. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I heard from my friend that is set to go to Army Boot Camp in june that they do Field Training Exercises for 15 miles long. I was just wondering if you have any knowledge on if you do these at Boot Camp for the Coast Guard as well?

Or if not, do you do anything similar? Thanks again.
 
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How competitive is the Direct Commision Lawyer Program? What is the maximum age you can be at the time of commision as a prior service member? How long does the process take?
 
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Not sure what a fifteen mile training exercise is. Do you mean a run? or maybe a road march?
I am a former ARMY Ranger and I am currantly a Coast Guard Recruiter. I have gone through basic training for both. We run our folks at Cape May. We do it a bit smarter, no field pack on your back. We need to run because you have standards to meet but we don't want to break you in the process, thats bad for business. If your CC likes to run then you may run up to 5 miles at a shot but more likely 2 as a norm. Good luck!!
 
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all i know is it is called an FTX, and he said you first do 5 miles, then 10, and then 15 and each one is not simultaneously. It may be a road march...
 
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I am sure PO1 Kalbach will hook you up. If you want you can ask me (let's give him a chance first) and I will help you if I can.

Why F-8 thought an OCS web site would help you I 'm not sure. He tries to be helpful, but he does not no what he is talking about.That does not seem to stop him though.

SMURFO I gottcha, FTX.... Don't worry we don't need to train you that way. It is very important that the ARMY prepares their folks in that way as it is relevent to their mission.

two different worlds

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The Coast Guard Direct Commission Lawyer Program is very competitive. The current age limits for this program are 21-38, if you have prior military service they may give you a waiver up to 40. In "my" experience I have not seen a waiver for anyone over 40. But if your application package is strong then "maybe" it's possible. As far as how long is process, check out www.gocoastguard.com, click on jobs, officers, direct commission lawyer for the requirements and also click on forms and instructions for the list of items that go in the package. Your recruiter will get you a medical physical at MEPS which takes approximately 6 hours to do, and the rest is basically up to you on how long you take to get your package together. Then there is the oral board of 3 officers who will interview you. From what the website says "The current application season will run through the end of October, with a selection board in early December (Exact dates to be announced)." So you have until sometime in October to get your package submitted. So it's going to be about 7-9 months until everyone with submitted packages will know if they are selected. The CG recruiting manual also states for qualifications for prior service that anyone having more than 6 years of prior service non-Coast Guard are ineligible to apply for an Commissioning programs. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Thanks for the information. I have one more question. The six years of prior service is that just active or does reserve time count? I have 5 years on active duty and 3 years in the reserves.
 
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I was wondering about direct commissioning as an environmental manager. My degree is only in Management, but I have a graduate certificate in Environmental Management. The certificate required 5 graduate level classes (15 credit hrs) to complete. I also have extensive work experience in the field. Will I qualify for this program? Thanks for your help
 
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Here are the educational requirements along with the approiate age and rank:

For the rank of Lieutenant O-3
Age 21-38
1. Doctorate from an accredited program in environmental management, science, or economics or related field and one year of relevant work experience, or

2. Masters degree from an accredited program in environmental management, science or economics or related field and 4 years of relevant work experience, or

3. Baccalaureate degree from an accredited program in environmental management, science, or economics or related field and 6 years of relevant work experience.

For the rank of Lieutenant(junior grade) O-2
Age 21-34

1. Masters degree from an accredited program in environmental management, science, or economics or related field or,

2. Baccalaureate degree from an accredited program in environmental management, science, or economics or related field and 3 years of relevant work experience.

Currently the Coast Guard is not seeking applications for this program, if you meet the education, age and other requirements give your local recruiter a call to check out the process. Here is the website to get the other requirements for Direct Commission in the Coast Guard. www.gocoastguard.com, click on jobs, Officers, and Direct Commission programs. PO1 Kalbach
 
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Hi PO1,

A friend of mine wants to join the CG Reserve, but he's 37. He's also a college grad. I'm pretty sure the age limit is 35, so could he get a waiver, or should I tell him to forget it?
 
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I know the Coast Guard now falls under the dept of homeland security, and it used to be dept of transportation. I am unsure what the actual difference is, & what the coast guards task is? Like does the coast guard still operate like it used to (catching immigrants, drug smugglers, environmental protection, etc.)

Also, when will the coast guard fall under dept. of transportation again?

This question is probably a hard one to answer, but if you can please do... thanks
 
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Does your friend have any prior military service? You are correnct the cut off for reserve is 35, but have your friend call the nearest Reserve recruiter to find out if his/her civilian job could be used in the Coast Guard. There me be a "slight" chance for an age waiver. For the age of 37 there are no commissioning programs that qualify. PO1 Kalbach
 
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The Coast Guard continues to do operations as normal, however it has added homeland security as one of it's missions. It will still continue with Search and Rescue, Maritime Law Enforcement, Maritime Safety and Environmental Protection. As far as going back to DOT, don't think that will happen. PO1 Kalbach
 
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I am 20yrs old, college student. My husband is in the Marine Corps and plans on staying in till retirement. I have been very interested in the military, especially the Coast Guard for the past year or so...

My question is, how does the CG accomadate a married couple who are both in different branches of the military??...

Would we be able to be stationed together throughout our careers?

We have a child, and a very supportive family who would be able to provide child care for deployments..

But im just curious if there are any extra considerations that the CG makes for situations like these?
 
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Does your friend have any prior military service? You are correnct the cut off for reserve is 35, but have your friend call the nearest Reserve recruiter to find out if his/her civilian job could be used in the Coast Guard. There me be a "slight" chance for an age waiver. For the age of 37 there are no commissioning programs that qualify. PO1 Kalbach


Thanks PO1. No, he doesn't have any prior service, but he's in the CG Auxiliary (so am I). He works in marketing/public relations for a large company so is there anything in the Coast Guard he could do? I don't think he really cares about being an officer, he just wants to serve. Thanks for your help.
 
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