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khallison:
What that soldier's father did was the very least that he could have done. We know that nothing gets fixed until the problem comes to the attention and the embarrassment of those higher up.
However, I go along with you that the soldiers themselves -at the insistence and under the direction of NCOs at squad and platoon level- should have fixed this problem themselves.
I think that, if the father of the soldier in question had spent a few years in the Army himself, he would have known the proper level to whose attention he should have brought that problem: the Company Commander, the XO, and/or the 1st Sgt.
Joe's legitimately pissed off about this; but since I never saw anyone ranked O-6 or higher ever visit a barracks during 6+ years of active duty, I'm not surprised that the generals had no idea of the conditions exposed on video. The real problem is much worse; and Joe misses the point: What the hell is going on with our NCOs and junior officers, which kept them from taking immediate and corrective action to care for their men?
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quote: Originally posted by AGBrina:
khallison:
What the hell is going on with our NCOs and junior officers, which kept them from taking immediate and corrective action to care for their men?
Roger that! Small unit leadership is the key. -Mac |
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He whipped out the "M" word...Marines. That's gotta hurt.
Truth be told, the Army took very good care of us in Iraq. Almost no BS details, and the best chow I've ever seen in a military setting. I think this is an isolated incident, but I totally agree, that for this "Army on the edge of disaster" as the press likes to re-iterate, there is alot of fat that needs to be cut. The golf courses, the little fiefdoms run by base commanders here and abroad...there is a whole lot the military could still function quite well without.
We conducted health and welfare inspections in Iraq. (Time to count the scorpions in your tent guys!)
I was lucky. My Joes were tight, orderly professionals but there were some that probably should have packed their mommy in their rucksack when they deployed.
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quote: Originally posted by khallison: RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,167708,00.html The US Army and the military in general stopped inspections of the barracks as he suggests around 10 years ago in order to give the Soldiers their privacy.
I have to disagree with your statement. I left the Marines in 1999 and we were still doing weekly field days and inspections along with barracks details every morning with the exeception of weekends. While our barracks were not brand new they were maintianed and clean. |
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For once I have to agree with Joe Galloway. These types of conditions should never have been allowed to develop in the first place. There is more than enough blame to go around; from the privates that didn't report it to the the 1st Sgt's that didn't inspect and repair as needed, to the company commander's who didn't look out for their troops first, all the way to the generals who were more concerned about media relations than ensuring the effectiveness of their primary weapon - the enlisted man.
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Troll... gone! USMCvet
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As usual, more rambling on by a has been reporter. Time for Joey to retire!
DON'T YOU AGREE MARINEAUNTIE???
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