Got a discussion going on the uniform board in regards to what boots EM, IT, ET, and any voltage exposure are required to wear.

Any live 30 volt + circuit we work on requires:

ASTM standard electric certified boot.
(ANSI Z41 has been replaced by ASTM)

Steel toe IS allowed as long as steel is not exposed due to wear. The boots can't have any exposed metal.

Remeber every "safety feature" of a boot is ASTM rated. Shank, Toe, sole, ect. Just becuase you see the ASTM rating dont mean it's what you need it for.

Ref. ASTM 2413, 105550.25a 4.1.3.4

I wear these:


They're ok right? Purdy sweet!

Thats the Super Boot III!!

Expect being issued OOA Mar 09*


* (Actual date members receive Super Boot III may vary 2-10 yrs)

Those are some pretty sweet boots...I am going to pick those up next chance I get.

Isn't there a boot that is authorized that has a ceramic toe instead of steel? I heard of something like that for guys stationed in cold weather areas. anyone?

Sounds breakable to me, but as long as it meets ASTM impact/crush rating requirements, 8-10 in high, and black you can wear I guess. Just remeber 30+ volts live you're supposed to have ASTM approved electrical safety boots.

ASTM/OSHA requires employeres that require certin safety equipment to provied $ or the equipment to you, which the CG does with uniform allowance. You can find some decient approved electrical boots online that meet uniform reg's, or if you are in a shop you can always see if the unit will by every one some. It's a good thing to bring up at the end of the year when units are lookling for things to through money at.

Toes? Over rated.

You're not going to need electrical safety boots to work on an analog line, are you?

In the 10550.25B, it states:

When working on live electrical circuits of 30 volts or more, non-conductive shoes that meet American National Standards Institute (ANSI)-Z41 requirements must be worn.

I guess it depends on how you define "live electrical circuits". I would say that an electrical circuit is one that goes to an electrical (breaker) panel. After looking up the definition it states that an electrical circuit is a closed, conducting path or route through which an electric current travels, so I guess I was wrong.

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Ever worked on a phone?

How much volts is dial tone?
How much volts is ring voltage?

Im just saying that CIM says 30 volts or more...Ringing phone = 90 volts ac correct? Also how many times have you ran into a 66/110 block with more than a phone on it? And of course every one in the CG keeps documentaion up so that you know whats on your cables and block right?

Actually at CAMSPAC we have many different type of communication circuits running over 66 and 110 blocks. To find out if there is a safety toe, not steel toe, find out the ANSI standard that our boots are suppose to be and compare that to boots you are interested in. If the boots don't meet the ANSI standard, don't buy them.

Standard power plant DC for phone eqp is 48volts. Ringing volts rang from 40 to 90. I get bit all the time disconnecting T1's from our DSX wiring bay(s) from time to time but it's no worse then touching a weak *** electric fence. My dad had gotten bit so much (he was a outside plant guy) that he pretty much got used to it . Do you guys get to wear "lineman" boots or do you have to stick to another mil spec type boot? Just wondering.

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Originally posted by jelld:
Actually at CAMSPAC we have many different type of communication circuits running over 66 and 110 blocks. To find out if there is a safety toe, not steel toe, find out the ANSI standard that our boots are suppose to be and compare that to boots you are interested in. If the boots don't meet the ANSI standard, don't buy them.

ANSI has been replaced by ASTM. Someday we'll get an update to the manuals. Not much changed on the regs though. Alot of the abrevations changed on the stamp. Some where, on at least 1 boot there should be a stamp or label saying what ASTM's it meets. Never bought a super boot so don't know how they rate.

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Originally posted by tc1uscg:
Standard power plant DC for phone eqp is 48volts. Ringing volts rang from 40 to 90. I get bit all the time disconnecting T1's from our DSX wiring bay(s) from time to time but it's no worse then touching a weak *** electric fence. My dad had gotten bit so much (he was a outside plant guy) that he pretty much got used to it . Do you guys get to wear "lineman" boots or do you have to stick to another mil spec type boot? Just wondering.

Yeah I used to get hit alot by phones/1mc on the ship. The OOD's normaly wouldn't allow it to be secured for work so if a pipe was made when working on it ya got the tickel. Then there where the people who loved to call a phone I had torn apart in hopes of seeing me get hit. Maybe it was that pen I had that shocked the hell out of people if they tried to use it...Always loved handing that to people signing stuff in there AIS/welcome aboard brief...

The issue Superboot does not have a steel toe, the toe is a non-metallic safety toe that meets the ANSI Z41 requirements.

Found the maker of the superboot II and went to their website.

The superboot II has the ASTM 2413 EH rating, (electrical hazard).

So the superboot II meets CIM 10550 requirements for work on live 30 volts or more circuits.

Again STEEL TOE BOOTS can also be purchased and worn as long as they have the ASTM's EH rating, are black, and 8-10 in high.

And ANSI Z41 is no longer a valid standard and has been replaced by ASTM 2413.

The EH rating is what makes a boot electrical hazard safe, not the material. There is normaly a voltage amount assoiated with the EH rating. There is non-matalic safety toed boots that dont meet the EH.