RE: http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,157694,00.html

"*Retroactive plus up in concurrent receipt for retirees rated IU. *These retirees, given “Individual Unemployability” status* *by the VA, draw disability compensation at the 100-percent level though their actual ratings are lower. The IU population, however, was excluded from full
concurrent receipt benefits when they were granted to 100-percent rated disabled Jan. 1, 2005. Conferees accepted a Senate provision to grant IU retirees full concurrent receipt back to that date."

This is some great news. I have been waiting for this for a long time. I still find it hard to believe that they are going to give us the back pay. For anyone who is drawing more in military retirement than they are getting from the VA, this back pay will be a little over $45,000.00 by Oct 09 when they say they will pay us. I have no idea why they are waiting so long.

We should start getting our full retired pay in Jan 08 or Feb 08, but I am not for sure on this yet.

Keep up the good work Tom.

May God richly bless and keep each of you.

In His Service,

Grover

As I understand chapter 61's will get CRSC pay also.Any one know how this will work ie will we have to apply as is the system is at the present time.

"Earlier retirement for certain reservists. Conferees agree to lower the age at which reservists can retiree by three months for every 90 days of active duty served in support of a contingency operation including wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, this change only would apply to assignments after September 2007."

So you mean those of us who have spent several of the last 6 years on active duty get nothing. What a load of s---!

My thoughts exactly Gunny. Whatever dummy got this language in place needs to be hunted down more aggressiveley than Usama bin Laden. What a crock...
Sarmajor

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Originally posted by 11720775:
"Earlier retirement for certain reservists. Conferees agree to lower the age at which reservists can retiree by three months for every 90 days of active duty served in support of a contingency operation including wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, this change only would apply to assignments after September 2007."

So you mean those of us who have spent several of the last 6 years on active duty get nothing. What a load of s---!

What about those of us who through no fault of our own were medically discharged and were not allowed to go to combat? Yes there is an advantage to not being sent to combat and I wish to take nothing away from those who put their lives on the line, however my career was also cut short by injuries received in the line of duty though not in theater so after 14 years of service I got nothing from the military even though the VA came out and found me 50% disabled so what about us?

Greetings and special blessings to one and all.

Carl, have you read the requirements for CRSC, there are 3 or 4 conditions that can be used which are not in a combat zone. If you are service connected, and I take it that you are since you said the VA gave you 50%, then you may qualify for CRSC. Submit the forms and let them decide.

Here are some websites you can look at:

http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/special-p...special-compensation


https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/crsc/apply.html

These are still reading for 20 years of service because they have not time to update them yet.

Keep checking in at www.vetspac.com for updates on the CRSC. Anyone can look at the home page and click on links from the home page, you can not get into the Forms unless you become a member for $100.00 for a life time.

May God richly bless and keep you.

In His Service,

Grover

Grover

ok I must confess I am a little lost on this. It still appears that since I was not injured in combat. Even though the injury's cut my career short. I still take it in the shorts. Am I missing some piece of the puzzle here?

Greetings and special blessings.

Are You Eligible to Apply?
To apply for CRSC, applicants must first meet ALL four of the
following criteria AND have at least one rated VA disability
determined to be combat related:

Grover

Thank you for your reply yes it confirms what I already knew. BECAUSE my career was cut short by an injury and BECAUSE my injury is not combat related I am in the ranks of those taking it in the shorts.

Have a blessed day

Carl, maybe we can get everyone under 20 included this coming year.

Sorry that you are still waiting. Everyone over 20 who at less than 50% and not combat are still waiting also.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED HAPPY NEW YEAR.

Grover

You know this is all fine and dandy, but there are thousands of Veterans that have been Med discharged before they could retire many with over 15 to 19 years in. And many that are now 100 percent and or Unemployable do to their injuries. And I am one of them. Is it fair that we are being slam dunked and you're out. Just because were not hurt in combat? Or is there a way for us to qualify? Help I am kinda lost in understanding all this jargan.
All I know, is that it took my several years to get my current award and I will never be able to get a job or even use my GI Bill to attend college. If someone can lead me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
Just email me at thedouble_ds@msn.com thanks and god bless all

New to the fourm guys, but here's my question. I have just been resding about the new CRSC. I am a part 61 retiree, medically retired in 1971 after being shotdown in Viet Nam while serving as an Army helicopter pilot. Was retired out of the Army at 90% but was rated 100% by the VA so I new recieved a check from the Army because my VA was always larger. I was only in the Army for 23 months active duty, though I was in hospitals for over a year. Fought every appeal to stay in up until the forced me to leave and enter the VA system.

I applied for CRSC back in 2005 and was it was rejected because I had not served 20 years ...... understood ..... but respectfully disagreed.

With this new bill, if signed by the President, how will I be compensated. Will I draw 2.5% x 2 years, or because I am 100% combat related will I draw my full Miltary reitement check, which is less than my VA check, and my VA check as well.

Just trying to figure it out.

regards.........wpp49

Greetings and special blessings to one and all.

I know you will get 2.5% times number of years active duty. I would think that you would get what ever the VA Waiver is if you have one. The best thing to do is go to www.vetspac.com and click on the highlighted link below where Win is talking about CRSC. This link has toll free numbers for each Branch of Service. Call your Branch and ask them. Since you have applied once, it should not be hard to just apply again now. We may need to wait for the new forms if they are going to do new ones, ask them about the forms and then let us all know what they say.

May God richly bless and keep each of you.

In His Service,

Grover

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Originally posted by 16332659:
As I understand chapter 61's will get CRSC pay also.Any one know how this will work ie will we have to apply as is the system is at the present time.

The question is whether this applies for both Chapter 61's the 20 and above and the less than 20.

STILL SERVING
SERGEANT GUAM

The 2008 NDAA expands CRSC to those retirees, to include chapter 61 retirees, who served less than 20 years. The amount of CRSC received has two limiters.

First, you cannot get more than what the VA pays you for the combat related condition(s).

Second, you cannot get more that what is due for retirement based on the LOS calucualtion. That is retirement base, x 2.5% x years of service.

So if yo are a chap 61 retiree rated at 100% but only 10% is due to a combat related disability, you will only get CRSC in the amount of what VA pays for a 10% disability.

If you are a chapter 61 retiree, rated 100% all for a combat related disability but only served 1 year, then you can only get CRSC in the amount of 2.5% of your retirement base.


Mike

Greetings and special blessings to one and all.

Yes, this new NDAA will apply to both over 20 and under 20 for Chapter 61s. The ones over 20 were covered before.

Yes, you will have to apply for CRSC for under 20 years for Chapter 61 the same as everyone is doing now.

I trust this helps.

May God richly bless and keep each of you.

In His Service,

Grover

Thank you sir for the response, but need one more clarification, would this entitled us retro pay since this bill was introduced by HR 1366 back in 2005, also would this NDAA 2008 aplies to those with IU, chapter 61's less than 20 years, need your help and expertised.

Thanks

STILL SERVING
SERGEANT GUAM

Greetings and special blessings.

"Thank you sir for the response, but need one more clarification, would this entitled us retro pay since this bill was introduced by HR 1366 back in 2005, also would this NDAA 2008 applies to those with IU, chapter 61's less than 20 years, need your help and expertised."

No retro due to HR 1366, but you get some from the date you file for CRSC and the date you start receiving it.

Keep in mind, retro pay is only given to the ones who are retired, regular retirement or Chapter 61.

The Chapter 61 under 20 years will apply to everyone from 100%, IU, all the way down to 10%.
But, remember this under 20 is only for combat service connected parts of your disability.

CRSC under 20 will be based on the base pay times 2.5% times number of years active duty.
Example: Base pay of $2,000.00. 10 years times 2.5 equals 25%. VA Disability rating at 100% will only give you $500.00 in CRSC if your retirement was that much or more. I think I have this correct.

If your VA rating is only 10%, you would only get $117.00 plus some for your spouse. The chart does not show spouse at 10 and 20%. Here is the link for the charts:

http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/rates/comp01.htm

Keep in mind, the Chapter 61 with less than 20 years is only for the combat part of your disability. There is no CRDP for under 20 years yet. We should get it in a year or so.

I trust this helps.

May God richly bless and keep each of you.

In His Service,

Grover