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RE: http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,142117,00.html
The Administration has its head so far up its heart that it can not see the effects on the current and FUTURE military personnel. It is sure quick to send the off to fight, but when it comes time to pay the piper they sure retreat!! |
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The military is making more money now than when I was in during the Clinto years. and benefits are still better than then.
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BOHICA, G.I.!
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"Who elected these politicians anyways?"
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33% increase in pay since 2001--Thank you President Bush--HUAH.
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Maybe so, but the rate of inflation and the cost of living has gone up too, buddy! We are also embroiled in a unpopular debacle that is putting a choke hold on our resources. Bush wants to cut corners on pay so he can send the money into his crusade-I mean war on terror. Give the troops the money!
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I didn't know that I was part of a "Special Interest" group. Personaly, I didn't join for the money. However, when you take an E-2's pay and factor in costs for housing, food and benefits; it is the equivalent of a 26K/yr income from a civilian job. Not bad for a 18 or 19 year old. Of course, if an E-2 or E-3 expects to get married and start raising a passel of kids, its not much. They will probably regret their too early marriage for a lot of reasons besides the pay. |
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This is really a non-issue for me. I take what they give me. I didn't join to get rich. I joined to serve my country and fix jets.
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Well we wouldn't be having this discussion if the last administration had dealt with the problem after the war was declared on us!
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May be you should make your statement LOUDER because it's obvious some don't get it!
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Don't blame the failures of today on the administration of yesterday. Clinton didn't go into Iraq half-cocked; by that logic, Daddy Bush should have finished the job during Desert Storm, then! What say you to that?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by aragorn57:
Don't blame the failures of today on the administration of yesterday. Clinton didn't go into Iraq half-cocked; by that logic, Daddy Bush should have finished the job during Desert Storm, then! What say you to that? I agree. |
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Well it would have been better to finish off Iraq in the Gulf War. But we were able to get all the support from our allies because we clearly stated liberation was our only goal. Should have would have, we would be in better shape if Clinton didn't down size the military in the 90's. Our IRR, NG, and reserves wouldn't be depleted.
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The President opposes Military Pay Raises however he does not have a problem with fighting the "Iraq" Fiasco. I know those who "Voted" Pres. Bush into office feels that they are being shortchanged.Rating does not mean anything to the pres. because he knows there is no tomorrow for his Presidency so i say to all who voted "Repubican" GOOD FOR ALL OF YOU.
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Only a loon would blame Clinton for the state of things in iraq now. But then again republicans have never looked at the facts. The fact they invaded iraq proves that.
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According to your profile, you must have retired from the Army at age 35. Were you one of those kids who enlisted underage at 15?
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dont people realize that all the raises the military got in early 2000 was from the clinton admin.
how can this admin expect the military to want to do their jobs knowing that this admin doesnt want to pay them for the job they are doing? sorry to say that 1700 a month as a e-4 doesnt cover much. comes to about 12 bucks an hour. go fig. |
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Amen to that last part However, keep in mind that CONGRESS, not the PRESIDENT, approves the pay raises. Clinton did make a mistake in downsizing the military, but at the time he thought it to be the best option as he wanted to make the forces less reliant on people and more on technology (ie UAVs and other automated battle machines). His administration in its final years sure probably had an influence on the pay raises (probably to make up for downsizing), but Congress in the end has the ultimate power do do it all. |
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very true.but didnt congress just grant themselves a 3.5% pay raise?
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Thank you, man! |
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