I can see it now, "Eeewww! he's all bleeding on my upholstery, throw him back in the water!!!"

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I can see it now, "Eeewww! he's all bleeding on my upholstery, throw him back in the water!!!"

Sure is nice to have a recycled work boat. Before we knew each other, my facility was a shrimper.

The OPFAC that I spent all my time on was a workboat that started life in the early 70's asa TROJAN F32 Cabin Cruiser.

While it still had some of its original pleasure craft amenities- galley, head,stove, fridge, nice cushy setee, nice cushy bench below decks, the forward V-berth had essentially been eliminated and converted into a Damage Control/Salvage locker. It had pumps, tools, snatches, blocks, miles of line and other rigging equipment aboard. A substantial davit with appropriate running block and tackle was well secured just aft of the main deck coxswain station.

There was no seating on the main deck save for the coxswain, the fancy-shmancy teak rail around the top of the transom was removed, and substantial cleats with proper backing were secured everywhere. Only reason there wasn't a sampson post was there wasn't anyplace to reasonably well put it.

The Aux was the only reason; except for getting U/W with family to see the 4th of july fireworks, that the man who owned it(who was an outstanding AUXIE and coxswain),owned the thing for in the 1st place.

Had oversized fuel tanks and the main work area aft had just been ripped up and done over substantially.

Whats the sense of getting underway for reportedly whats supposed to be a safety patrol if ya don't have the facility or capabilities onboard to properly render aid if needed??? Ya could both fight a fire or dewater a boat offa this thing-JRC

National SAR Policy regarding Auxiliary towing. Under NOTE, the last line reads,"the decision to assist should be left to the Auxiliarist."
Is it possible that there are auxiliarists that are not all that anxious to assist?

Is it possible that there are auxiliarists that are not all that anxious to assist?

Yes. A few years back there was an incident involving an Aux facility and the local station. The station asked the Aux facility, which was already on patrol, if it would be the victim boat for CG practice drills. The owner of the facility refused. He didn't want his nice new min-cigarette damaged. That patrol got terminated and that owner never got orders again.

On this same point, did you see the latest (posted in the last day or so) AuxKB. It is on this very subject.

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While on a patrol an OPFAC comes upon a vessel which has run aground. After assessing the risk to both vessels may the facility be used to tow the stranded vessel back into safe water?

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All tows must be authorized by your OIA .

A few things are interesting about that. While the answer is correct, it is not complete. I think the responder missed the part about grounding. The Aux does not unground boats.

Second, the towing (or No-Tow) policy has been around since 1984, 24 years ago. It is and has been in the OpsPolMan since then. It is a required part of Coxswain and crew training to know what the policy is. So why do members still not know what the policy is - as evidenced by the AuxKB question above?

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While on a patrol an OPFAC comes upon a vessel which has run aground. After assessing the risk to both vessels may the facility be used to tow the stranded vessel back into safe water?

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While on a patrol an OPFAC comes upon a vessel which has run aground. After assessing the risk to both vessels may the facility be used to tow the stranded vessel back into safe water?

The Key word here is "run aground." . Even the CG does not pull vessels off, that have run aground. Been that way for years.....

To quote the Ancient Mariner,"There is more education in one towing bill than all the classes ever given."

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Is it true that the vessel has white rugs and crewmemers must remove their footwear before going below?

Yes this is true.

But luckily you could do the whole patrol without ever going below.

It is also true he patrols with only one engine on at a time (but he does alternate between port and starbord)

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Originally posted by Turn2:
It is also true he patrols with only one engine on at a time (but he does alternate between port and starbord)

There's not problem with that at all - and yes, I've done that many times. We are supposed to be saving fuel by running at best fuel speed anyway.
That's a far cry from the young Coasties who only seen to undersatnd Full Ahead and All Stop!

That seems to be the speed for wannabees, pedal to the medal, full bore and damn the torpedos(?). On our OPFAC, we patrol at clutch speed with both engines in gear just in case we have to dodge the usual clueless sailboater. By the way, the term plopper" is derived from a skipper's meeting we had with the gold side many years ago. We were being exhorted to be more "aggressive" while on patrol and not just be "plopping" around on the water. That is when we adopted the term "plopper" as opposed to "wannabee."

We had a gentleman in our flotilla whose facility was a 34' ketch, capable of 5 kts. on a good day, downstream, under auxiliary power. While on patrol one balmy summer day his crew talked him into raising sail for the downwind (upriver) leg of the patrol. As he came about he reported "ops and position" at light 22, Stockton Deep Water Ship Channel. A half-hour later he reported at light 26. The station asked whether he wanted a tow.

Last year we took part in a regatta event (Red Bull Air Races) and we were late getting on station after the skipper's meeting due to our 8.5 knot cruising speed. The gold side PATCOM was highly displeased being clueless as to the speed of our OPFAC. With both the PATCOM and my helmswoman (wife) being of the female persuasion, it took some doing to keep the wife from telling the PATCOM where to go. Of course, the rest of the crew were laughing their butts off.

Sometimes it's just funny as hell the way ops go.
We had a female Auxie at Fleet Week who invariably responded to radio messages " Roger Wilco"
By the end of the weekend practically everybody in division D was adding (screaming) "over and out!" every time she did it.
Of course by then most of us were quite a bit past half-crazy anyhow.

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Originally posted by NM11AZ:
Sometimes it's just funny as hell the way ops go.
We had a female Auxie at Fleet Week who invariably responded to radio messages " Roger Wilco"
By the end of the weekend practically everybody in division D was adding (screaming) "over and out!" every time she did it.
Of course by then most of us were quite a bit past half-crazy anyhow.

Just curious.. why the need to point out that she was female? If the person who was doing it were black, or asian, would you also need to point that out?

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Just curious.. why the need to point out that she was female? If the person who was doing it were black, or asian, would you also need to point that out?

FW... Don't be so sensitive. I mean, if it was something positive, you would glory in the fact that it was a female. In this case, there was probably no "black" or "asian" transmitting the redundant "Roger. Wilco."

...gjd

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Just curious.. why the need to point out that she was female? If the person who was doing it were black, or asian, would you also need to point that out?

FW... Don't be so sensitive. I mean, if it was something positive, you would glory in the fact that it was a female. In this case, there was probably no "black" or "asian" transmitting the redundant "Roger. Wilco."

...gjd

No, that's not true at all. The fact is that the Auxie's gender had absolutely nothing to do with the story. Nothing. Nada. Therefore, it made for a very inappropriate and sexist post.

Let's just insert the word "black" and see how racist the post becomes:

Sometimes it's just funny as hell the way ops go.
We had a black Auxie at Fleet Week who invariably responded to radio messages " Roger Wilco"
By the end of the weekend practically everybody in division D was adding (screaming) "over and out!" every time they did it.
Of course by then most of us were quite a bit past half-crazy anyhow.

Forewatch, how come you didn't complain about NM11's previous anecdote just a few posts previous in which he referred to a "gentleman"? Double standard?

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Originally posted by NM11AZ:
Sometimes it's just funny as hell the way ops go.
We had a female Auxie at Fleet Week who invariably responded to radio messages " Roger Wilco"
By the end of the weekend practically everybody in division D was adding (screaming) "over and out!" every time she did it.
Of course by then most of us were quite a bit past half-crazy anyhow.

Just curious.. why the need to point out that she was female? If the person who was doing it were black, or asian, would you also need to point that out?

If you were there and knew the person you'd understand.

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Originally posted by NM11AZ:

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Originally posted by Forewatch:

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Originally posted by NM11AZ:
Sometimes it's just funny as hell the way ops go.
We had a female Auxie at Fleet Week who invariably responded to radio messages " Roger Wilco"
By the end of the weekend practically everybody in division D was adding (screaming) "over and out!" every time she did it.
Of course by then most of us were quite a bit past half-crazy anyhow.

Just curious.. why the need to point out that she was female? If the person who was doing it were black, or asian, would you also need to point that out?

If you were there and knew the person you'd understand.

DO explain it to me.. I'm dying to hear your explanation.

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