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District 17 received a commendation letter for reaching an all time membership high.
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We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo |
Another puny district with marginally more members then my old division. And they have to put those members in 14 flotillas (compared to 8 in my old division) and spread them across 3 divisions - one of which is below the minimum requirement for a division.
Maybe my old division should put itself in for an award. On the surface they earned it - almost as many members and in less flotillas and divisions (3 - 1). The Aux will give out awards for almost anything - this one is barely above the level of being able to fog a mirror. |
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Experienced Member |
Try comparing overall population size in south Florida to what you will find scattered across the tundra of Alaska. Overall percentage of the population who is an Aux member in AK is undoubtedly higher by a signifant factor.
And don't you think they probably need more flotillas in AK? They're separated by hundreds of miles with no roads. Of course you're going to have a bunch of small isolated flotillas under the best of circumstances. Maybe one Division is unusually small but they've got some unique geographic circumstances there that would make it unworkable to combine them. |
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I have a question about USCGAUX "retired" status-
Is there such a thing as "medical retirement" from the AUX??? I ask because- in my perusal of auxinfo demographics block I noticed around 170 members; age 49 and below, "retired". Using my own former flotilla, I noticed one mbr "retired" at age 45. And I know who this was, he was in the AUX for even a shorter period of time than I was, less than 3 years. He had a stroke. Another observation- My old flotilla lists "32" members, with 4 of that number being "member requested retired status", so theres actually 28 "active" members. Switch over to the "member activities" cube, only 19 members actually recorded any documented hours as having done anything AUX related. SO, theres 9 members; that went thru whatever level of background check they went thru, and pay dues, that DON'T DO NOTHING related to the AUX. Or at least they don't bother to record it. I wonder just how many members organization wide did the same thing??? And WHY BOTHER DOING IT is pretty high on the list as well!! And the cost!! I'm sure these background checks cost the AUX, the USCG, or our Gov't something someplace. WHATS the purpose of a member going thru this background check and then not doing ANYTHING to be an "active" member of the organization??? I DON'T GET IT!!! Another "feather in your cap"?? proving that your a "true blue" American?? Like I've repeatedly said, I was leaving the AUX anyways, the "PSI" just provided a convenient "exit stage left".My level of involvement in the AUX was already pretty much at zero just prior to the PSI announcement, But if I had chosen to continue my affilliation and PARTICIPATION with the AUX, I would have done the PSI and carried on at my level of activity. But why would ya do it , and then not do anything once ya got it?? Maybe this is just one more example of the "LOL"(lack of leadership) and apathy in the AUX, the 2 main reasons that found me looking for the door after a reasonably short period of time in the organization-JRC |
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We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo |
Is there such a thing as "medical retirement" from the AUX???
Officially no. Unofficially based on a real incident in my old flotilla from a few years ago - but post the P-thing - there can be - 'your mileage and district may vary'. First to retire normally you only need 15 years of service or fogging-a-mirror it doesn't matter which or what combination produces the 15 years of check writing. So a member joining at the youngest possible age, 17, could retire at 32. The AuxMan has no provision for retirement short of 15 years. However, in my old flotilla we had a member who was gravely ill for 2 or 3 years. He was at the 13 year mark. His friends knew he was going to resign so they asked the FC if he could get the member a medical retirement. They claimed this member had been highly active before he got ill (which didn't square with the FC's memory). The DirAux was willing to do so if the member or flotilla could prove many years of above average service. That killed the deal. The FC knew the member hadn't ben active for at least 5 years prior to getting ill. AuxData, even the ancient history, showed nothing for the member after his second year of membership. The FC went to the member's friends and asked them if they had any proof of this member's supposed involvement after year 2. They admitted the member was just a nice guy and they wanted him to be able to retire as an Auxie. So there was no 'medical' for this 'inactive active' member. |
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We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo |
Try comparing overall population size in south Florida to what you will find scattered across the tundra of Alaska.
In this case, size (geogrphic or otherwise) doesn't matter. They got a letter of commendation for doing what they are supposed to be doing - recruit and retain. If anyone did anything special, like recurit 5 or more members, to make that happen then they should be in line for the Annual Service Performance Award - Member Service. But to send a nose-wiping letter to the whole Is the RADM going to send every VE who does 5 VEs a commendation letter for completing his yearly requirements? How about coxswains and crew? If not, why not? They also did just what they were supposed to do. |
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You guys are forgetting pro forma retirement: five vessel examinations, eight (now twelve) hours underway, two hours as lead instructor: and that is just for those who want to keep the qualifications in case the auxiliary ever digs up some more effective leaders. SEMPER GUMBY
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Experienced Member |
I think reaching an all time membership high is well worth recognition from the local CG. That is something special. Especially when you consider that they had to face the same problems that have caused a major loss of personnel in the last 5 years. |
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We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo |
Today's numbers are:
Disenrollment Comparison Status 16-Dec-07 6-Jan-08 Difference IQ 3082 2932 -150 BQ 22690 22366 -324 AX 3208 3171 -37 Total 28980 28469 -511 AP 860 846 -14 Retired 6,239 6273 34 Beginning of Year Comparison Status 7-Jan-07 6-Jan-08 Difference IQ 2494 2932 438 BQ 21284 22366 1082 AX 3187 3171 -16 Total 26965 28469 1504 AP 999 846 -153 Retired 5481 6273 792 Pre-Disenrollment (Peak) Year End Status 7-Jan-07 16-Dec-07 Difference IQ 2494 3082 588 BQ 21284 22690 1406 AX 3187 3208 21 Total 26965 28980 2015 AP 999 860 -139 Retired 5481 6,239 758 This time last year was the low point for disenollments. I usually follow the numbers up thru N-Train in late January - just in case there is any last minute deletions. |
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Experienced Member |
So, if we're past the worst of the disenrollments, that still leaves us with a 5.6% membership increase for 2007. Thats very respectable for a long-established organization like ours. Even if we had a late surge in disenrollments and lost half of that, it would still be pretty good considering all that has gone on.
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We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo |
So, if we're past the worst of the disenrollments
The Aux may be past the worst or biggest drop but unlike last year, this week records another drop. The Magic Numbers for this week: Disenrollment Comparison Status 16-Dec-07 13-Jan-08 Difference IQ 3082 2943 -139 BQ 22690 22300 -390 AX 3208 3160 -48 Total 28980 28403 -577 AP 860 823 -37 Retired 6,239 6290 51 Beginning of Year Comparison Status 7-Jan-07 13-Jan-08 Difference IQ 2494 2943 449 BQ 21284 22300 1016 AX 3187 3160 -27 Total 26965 28403 1438 AP 999 823 -176 Retired 5481 6290 809 Pre-Disenrollment (Peak) Year End Status 7-Jan-07 16-Dec-07 Difference IQ 2494 3082 588 BQ 21284 22690 1406 AX 3187 3208 21 Total 26965 28980 2015 AP 999 860 -139 Retired 5481 6,239 758 |
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Experienced Member |
Still, a more than respectable increase in membership.
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I wonder if that data could be broken down by Districts? I'm too lazy
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We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo |
I wonder if that data could be broken down by Districts? I'm too lazy
Since I'm pulling the data from AuxInfo it could have been done. You can get any district's current demographics by doing the AuxInfo Drill Down Dance. The 7th District and maybe some others have provided a short cut. However, to do the analysis you would have had to have saved the numbers originally. For this pass, I only kept the 7th's numbers since it is my old district. I have all the districts numbers from a year ago but they are on a drive that is in storage. The PC the drive was in crashed and I haven't had the time or inclination to get the data pumped off the old drive. |
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That's a lot of work for a moot point. I could bestir my lethargic self to do it. That would , of course, depend upon remembering WTF I was looking for in the first place. Always a challenge
BZ |
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Experienced Member |
FL, is there a simple way to come up with the member stats broken down by type of member? In the demographics cube I don't see any way to do it without having to run multiple reports and then add up the information yourself. If there is a single report that would give it, could you do it and provide a link? Thanks.
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We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo |
There is none that I am aware of. Part of the problem is the demographics cube is a summary display. You can never drill down to an individual member like you can in the other cubes. That came about because of a legit beef of FW.
If you were on the Nat staff and had the proper access you might be able to do it by accessing the entire database. BTW - the numbers aren't posted since the update wasn't run - probably do to the holiday. That never ceases to amaze me. With more then 25 years in the computer industry, I never heard of a commercial concern that skipped processing because of a holiday. You might have to pay the workers a holiday kicker or shift their day off but the computers ran - no matter what. |
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Experienced Member |
You would think someone would want a query that quickly tells you how many applicants, IQ, BQ, and AUXOP people are on the books. Seems like pretty basic information that the leadership would want to track closely.
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Isn't that what's on those comparisons FL51D7 has been posting?
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Yup! it is |
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