7030 NEEDS NEW CODE
As someone that keeps my CG Aux Facility in a covered boat lift in the canal behind my house, I go to a Marina to pick up my crew for a mission by water. There is not room for my crew to park at my house. So when I do a 7030 I can not show 01B-Trailering to get to the Marina. I do not have my crew so how do I show my time and fuel? And I have orders but my crew is not on till I get to the Marina, so am I covered by the Gold Side on the trip to the Marina? I know others have this problem too. Maybe a new code is needed on the 7030 for this?

Sgt Broomfield,

I don't think you're going to want to hear this, but during that transit without crew you cannot be under legal CG orders. Because of that, you also could not display your sign boards, etc. And now (for that matter) couldn't even wear your CGAUX PFD. Of course, if you are not under orders, you are not covered by the CG's umbrella. If there was ever a claim, it would be denied.

Do you have room to park one single vehicle at your house? Perhaps the crew can muster before at a local shopping center/Wal-Mart, etc and just bring one vehicle to your house. Perhaps you could pick up your crew at one of these places. I would do that before I'd leave my slip for a mission - but not under orders.

Too bad you don't live next door to me. I depart from my home dock as well, but have enough parking for at least 25 vehicles. Feast or famine, eh?

Curious; what do you do for your radio guard during that transit?

Curious; what do you do for your radio guard during that transit?

If he is not under order during the transit, as you state, then he does not need to have a radio guard. The CG, might not even take his guard, since without being under orders he is just a recreational boater to the CG.

Exactly! I asked the question to elicit an answer that would tell me IF the CG was taking his guard, and if so, why?

Ask your Order Issuing Authority about the possibility of issuing you non-reimbursable "Restricted Pocket Orders" for your transit. Several Sector Commanders have authorized these for situations similiar to yours. The only stipulation that I saw on the orders was that the individual operating the facility had to be the facility owner as well as Coxswain qualified. This would only cover your facility for non-negligent damage and third party claims. This would also entitle you to a Coast Guard radio guard although it would certainly be a good idea for most if not all Auxiliary patrols to use an Auxiliary radio guard whenever possible.

In part, the OPM says:
To activate contingency ("Pocket") orders, the coxswain must have a minimum qualified crew onboard and follow all patrol requirements except being in uniform and displaying patrol sign boards.

A little off topic: I batch about very few things, but I've got a batch about the 7030. I'm the flotilla's FSO-CS (I maintain the web site). CS time gets reported on a 7030, which means that every time I spend and hour or so maintaining the site (on different days of the month) I've got to fill out a separate 7030

"Batch" was not a typo, this site's word filter doesn't like the word "batch"

I was told to set up my radio guard during that transit. And I do. I tell them 1 POB in route to pick up my crew. And when I get there and pick up my crew I change the POB. The Gold Side has never not took my guard.

Sgt Bloomfield
A suggestion.
Ask the Chief of Station about your damage/ injury problem rather than titillate the imaginations of a bunch of sea lawyers. He is the guy who will handle any claims and who sets policy.

vftb,
The old 7030 had so many missions listed that it took a specialist rating in bureaucratic blatherspeak to understand it. I commiserate with you as I spend time on NS (AN) missions, sometimes 2 a day, and seem to spend more time filling out 7030s than I do doing the missions.

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Originally posted by NM11AZ:
Sgt Bloomfield
A suggestion.
Ask the Chief of Station about your damage/ injury problem rather than titillate the imaginations of a bunch of sea lawyers. He is the guy who will handle any claims and who sets policy.

The Station does not *set* policy. The OIA can issue certain waivers to existing policy. In our AOR in D7 we can get a transit waiver from requiring CXN + 2 crew, to CXN + 1 crew. This is for transit only and we can't go "outside" like that. (open waters) We can then pick up our additional crew at Station or another inside destination.

The Aux Claims Handbook and the Coast Guard Claims and Litigation Manual (COMDTINST M5890.9(series) outline the general procedure and requirements for claims. In some AORs the claim could go initially to the Aux Sector Coordinator. The OTO is usually in the mix somewhere. The level of investigation depends on the amount of the claim. Personal injury or death claims would certainly add another level and are addressed in the AUXMAN.

The basis of the entire claim process is "a facility assigned to duty" (facility movement under orders) and the OPM tells you that you cannot get orders without a crew. (Below, and in my earlier post)
"Waivers to the minimum crew requirements may be granted by the DIRAUX in cases where the OTO is satisfied that a smaller crew can safely operate the facility. All waivers must be in writing and must be specific to each facility and describe the precise conditions under which the waiver applies. A waiver shall not be granted to allow single-handed operation of an Auxiliary vessel while conducting Auxiliary missions."

SGT Broomfield - Are you CLEARLY under orders and assigned to duty during that transit? Legally, you could not be. I suppose the real test may be submission of a claim and the requisite investigation while single-handing. Does the OIC of your OIA understand that you believe you are "assigned to duty" and *covered*, or are the CG radio watchstanders making this transit authority decision on their own? It is difficult for SCs (Sector Commanders), CWOs and Chiefs to know all the convoluted Aux policies. To expect a POOD, CDO, or watchstander to know them all would be tempting fate. Usually, (a knowledgeable) local SO-OP will work with the OIA to help them understand Aux policy.

I once had a $5,500 claim that went through without a hitch because every rule had been followed and all documentation was in order (including statements from my crew). It WAS investigated by a Sector Active Duty Investigation Team – ANY claim that size could be expected to be “investigated”. I have seen far lesser claims hang up in the system for a year. During the investigation period, your CXN certs may be pulled as well.

Please let us know what your OIA says.

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Originally posted by vftb:
A little off topic: I batch about very few things, but I've got a batch about the 7030. I'm the flotilla's FSO-CS (I maintain the web site). CS time gets reported on a 7030, which means that every time I spend and hour or so maintaining the site (on different days of the month) I've got to fill out a separate 7030

Simple solution: Fill out the one-page version of the 7030 with your basic information and save it as a read-only template. Each day, recall the template, add that day's info, then either print it or save it under a different name as an e-m attachment. Shouldn't take you more than 60 seconds to do it once you are set up.

h t t p://forms.cgaux.org/archive/a7030g-NoInstructions.pdf

NM11AZ
Ask the Chief of Station about your damage/ injury problem rather than titillate the imaginations of a bunch of sea lawyers. He is the guy who will handle any claims and who sets policy.

I have not had a injury or damage. Just wanted to hear what may be said about this. And I don't have to go very far, but I bet I am not the only one who would like to know about this.

Didn't say you had damage. did I?
It is possible to ask a "what if" question of somebody, especially the Chief who runs your parent station, these guys are invariably up front with the cheap help.

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Originally posted by NM11AZ:
...It is possible to ask a "what if" question of somebody, especially the Chief who runs your parent station, these guys are invariably up front with the cheap help.

OICs of most Stations that I am aware of are Chief Warrant Officers. If so, don't address them as "Chief" as a Chief is an E-7. Address them as "Mr., Miss, Mrs., Xxxxx" and Sir or Ma'am.

BTW, they let women serve now. Our OTO is a female.

Good for you, our local station commander is either a Master Chief or Senior Master Chief.

OIC of our local MLB station is a BMCS (E-8)

I *knew* there would be responses like the above - which is why I said "most". But then, if you are dealing with Senior Chiefs or Master Chiefs, they would be addressed as such.

Actually, I cannot say for absolute certain that if we had some way of counting, "most" are CWOs. It's simply that I've seen a lot of Auxiliarists address CWOs as "Chief" and thought it would be a better conversation-starter for SGT. Broomfield if he didn't do that.

NM11AZ- I detect a little "edge" in your reply. With a little work, this particular thread can degrade to the usual accusational, name-calling, insulting diatribe of most other Aux threads on MilitaryDotCom.

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Good for you, our local station commander is either a Master Chief or Senior Master Chief.

It would be either Senior Chief or Master Chief, there is no such thing as a Senior Master Chief.

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Originally posted by KittyN:
OICs of most Stations that I am aware of are Chief Warrant Officers.

Not sure what is "Normal" across various stations. The Billet at my local station is an E-7. Granted the last 2 were promoted while there. Best to check and use the proper title.