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Listing only those items that might apply to Auxies:

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A. CARDIGAN SWEATERS AND WOOLY-PULLYS ARE NO LONGER AUTHORIZED FOR WEAR WITH THE OPERATIONAL DRESS UNIFORM (ODU ).

B. FEMALE MEMBERS HAIR SHALL BE WORN IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: ALL PONYTAILS AND LONG HAIR, INCLUDING BRAIDS, MUST BE NEATLY AND INCONSPICUOUSLY FASTENED, PINNED OR SECURED TO THE HEAD AND MUST NOT FALL BELOW THE LOWER EDGE OF THE COLLAR. NO PORTION OF THE BULK OF THE HAIR AS MEASURED FROM THE SCALP WILL EXCEED TWO INCHES.


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2. THE FOLLOWING ITEM WILL UNDERGO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT: BLUE T- SHIRT WITH 3/4-INCH EMBROIDERED WHITE LETTERS ON LEFT BREAST AS OPTIONAL WEAR TO BE WORN WITH THE ODU WHEN TOP IS REMOVED.


I thought you might find the following of interest, including only Auxies IOI.

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3. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE REVIEWED AND DISAPPROVED:

A. ADOPTION OF THE EIGHT-POINT COVER.

C. WEAR OF THE GARRISON CAP WITH THE ODU.

E. WEAR OF PRIOR SERVICE INSIGNIA NOT EARNED WHILE IN THE COAST GUARD. Added note: The Aux allows this.

F. WEAR OF TEMPORARY INSIGNIA ON ODU.

G. WEAR OF BALL CAPS OFF UNIT OR MILITARY INSTALLATION WHILE IN TROPICAL BLUE LONG UNIFORM; BALL CAP WEAR OPTIONS DETAILED ON PAGE
3-18 OF REF A ARE STILL APPLICABLE.

H. WEAR OF ANODIZED MEDALS.

K. CHANGE THE METHOD OF ODU SLEEVE ROLLING.

L. ELIMINATE THE COMBINATION COVER WITH ALL DINNER DRESS JACKET UNIFORMS.

M. GIG LINE MODIFICATIONS.

N. ADDING COAST GUARD RATE INSIGNIA ONTO THE SDB LAPEL.

O. WEAR OF NAME TAGS AND RIBBONS ON LONG-SLEEVE SHIRT AND TIE WITHOUT THE SDB JACKET.

P. WEAR OF AIR FORCE DRESS TROUSERS WITH THE SDB.
 
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I'd rather be knitting.
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Oh yikes, a max of two inches for women? If that applies to the Auxies, I'll be in for it, unless I shave my head twice a month. Not something that DH would be wild about.
 
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suds - 2 inches bulk - not length. So you can't have a beehive! Big Grin
 
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I'd rather be knitting.
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But if your hair isn't straight or loosely waved, your hair doesn't have length, it's got circumference.
 
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Is the long-sleeved shirt mentioned in item 3(o)the long sleeved tropical shirt or the long-sleeved white shirt, or both. Previous SOP was that the tropical shirt was to be worn with a tie, nametag, shoulder boards and ribbons when in substitution for the short-sleeved tropical shirt in "long" and nametag and collar devices in "short". Some people wear long sleeves to alleviate the risk of further skin cancer.
Or does it just mean "when worn under SDB".
Good grief, something else for the uniform Nazis to quibble about. Roll Eyes
 
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I guess we're never supposed to remove our coat when in the Service Dress Blue (Bravo) uniform. To make things a bit more confusing, the Uniform Procurement Guide differs from the AUXMAN regarding the Undress Blue--Winter uniform. The AUXMAN specifies metal collar devices on the long or shirt sleeve shirt (along with name tag and qualification devices but no ribbons), whereas the Procurement Guide calls for shoulder boards. Our DIRAUX has ruled that we should follow the AUXMAN and wear the collar devices.
 
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Just the opposite here, shoulder boards are de rigeur for just about everything in tropicals, along, of course, with all the ribbons, badges, devices and stuff. Personally I think shoulder boards are more appropriate to bus drivers, airplane pilots, hotel doormen, South American dictators and Tijuana cops. Cool
 
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M. GIG LINE MODIFICATIONS.


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M. GIG LINE MODIFICATIONS.
???


Are you questioning what a gig line is or what the proposed and defeated mods were? I can't help with the latter but the former is:

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Gig line: The alignment of the uniform's shirt, belt buckle and fly.


The first time I saw the phrase I did a WTF and then looked up the definition.

Off hand, I don't know if the AuxMan specifies the gig line for any uni. You might have to go to the CG Uniform Manual to find it. I think it even varies across uniforms.
 
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I can't figure out how they proposed to modify the gig line... What, were they going to make people wear their shirts backwards and their belts pulled to the side?
 
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The only thing I can think of related to the gig line is the alignment of the belt buckle with the rest of the line.

If I remeber correctly, the gig line for the ODU has the right edge of the buckle as the "line". Personally, I find that makes the buckle look off center. Maybe the proposal was to center the buckle.

I think the gig line for trops and the silver buckle has the buckle centered - at least most members seem to wear it that way.
 
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Didn't get any hits running a search for "gig" in the AUXMAN. Guess we have more important uniform issues to be concerned about.
 
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I can't figure out how they proposed to modify the gig line... What, were they going to make people wear their shirts backwards and their belts pulled to the side?


I've seen some people get pretty close, of course, when you can't see your belt buckle... Big Grin
 
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I found the alignment in the CG Uni Regs COMDTINST M1020.6E page 3-38

FW ain't gonna like this - the gig line differs between men and women.


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Manner of Wear For Standard Brass Buckle:

Men
Wear the buckle so that the belt clip end (metal tip) touches the wearer’s LEFT side of the buckle. Align the right side of the buckle with the opening of the shirt and opening of the fly, forming a straight line.

Women
Wear the buckle so that the belt clip end touches the wearer’s RIGHT side of the buckle. Align the left side of the buckle with the opening of the shirt forming a straight line. If men’s trousers are worn, align the left side of the buckle with the opening of the shirt and position the fly of the trousers to present a neat appearance.


The black belt buckle (same page) is worn gigged the same way for men and women. However, the amount of the belt that sticks out differs from the brass (silver for Aux) buckle.

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Manner of Wear For Subdued Black Belt and Buckle:

The black belt is worn with a subdued black open-faced buckle as used by the USMC. The belt and buckle will be oriented in the same manner as the men’s standard CG belt for both men and women. The metal belt tip will extend past the buckle between 2 to 4 inches.
 
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I think whoever wrote the description for men must have been looking down at the time, therefore confusing right and left; it's wrong according to every military convention. The left side of the buckle goes along the shirt and trouser opening, otherwise it isn't in the middle of the wearer's body.
However, just because it's probably a typo doesn't mean that some fool will make a cause celebre out of it Roll Eyes
 
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There's both a slide show and a video at the Uniform Distribution Center web site (at the Downloads link) showing the correct belt buckle placement for the ODU.
I sure hope if I ever go under the knife that the surgeon doesn't have any left/right confusion!
 
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Originally posted by FL51D7:
M. GIG LINE MODIFICATIONS.
???


Are you questioning what a gig line is or what the proposed and defeated mods were? I can't help with the latter but the former is:



I know what a gig line is. So does any civilian who has seen the right military comedies. my "???" was what modifications could they possibly be considering?
 
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They probably got tired of seeing Auxies with their buckles under their armpits and decided to be reiterative, then screwed it up.
As I said above, now that it's been memorialized in the King's Own English pretty soon we'll all have to wear our dress buckles in the wrong place just so whomever writes this drivel won't have to change it. Roll Eyes
 
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All this GIG line stuff is of no concern to me. My stomach covers the belt buckel at all times. As a matter of fact it covers almost all of the fly too.
 
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Originally posted by NM11AZ:
I think whoever wrote the description for men must have been looking down at the time, therefore confusing right and left; it's wrong according to every military convention. The left side of the buckle goes along the shirt and trouser opening, otherwise it isn't in the middle of the wearer's body.
However, just because it's probably a typo doesn't mean that some fool will make a cause celebre out of it Roll Eyes


I realized while I was putting on my uniform belt last night that I am an idiot, the ruling is right and I'm upside down. The difference is that the women's uniform has the shirt. and possibly, trouser openings facing the other way.
I've always wondered why this is.
Forewatch! Front and center, enlighten us lower gendered, please Big Grin
 
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