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And everyone of them had in the back of their mind that a fitness report was in their future...

It sounds like you should consider running for elected office in the Auxiliary -- to implement similar programs. Have you considered doing so?
 
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And everyone of them had in the back of their mind that a fitness report was in their future...


We did narrative self-evaluations within the department. The Executive Director gave department heads, like me, formal evaluations annually -- I never received a negative evaluation from anyone in that position. Razz

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It sounds like you should consider running for elected office in the Auxiliary -- to implement similar programs. Have you considered doing so?


Been there, done that. . . back in 1963. I'm now happy being a staffer at the Flotilla, Division, District and National levels, and also at one level I don't quite know how to describe. Cool

Okay, Skipper?

...gjd
 
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Fine by me -- pleased to hear you served in elected office two score and four ago...just wondering though -- as a current member of appointed "High Silver" yourself -- where are all those revolutionary programs that would fix all the Auxiliary "problems" might be hiding?

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Yep, I guess you'd call that the "Old Auxiliary," and I served in that office one year after my discharge from the "Old Guard." I do think "Old" is the operative word, and may have little to do with the "New" Guard or Auxiliary.

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as a current member of appointed "High Silver" yourself -- where are all those revolutionary programs that would fix all the Auxiliary "problems" might be hiding


Nope. They just show me the field, and I go out and pick the cotton!

But I do enjoy the "work arounds" I've used to creatively interpret and apply some of the arcane bureaucratic rules. It's a full life!!! (At least what's left of it.)

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Don't get me wrong -- I do have opinions about various facits of CG and CGAUX operations and missions. When I feel like it, I freely express them on this board. I've never gotten into any trouble in the Auxiliary, and that's probably because I've avoided being considered a threat to anybody or to anybody's territory. Cool

...gjd

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come fly for D8CR. It's not political.

Not very practical for Sky since he lives south of Miami and 8CR is the panhandle of Florida. Mulitple hundereds of miles away.

I wouldn't trust D7 peeps too much...

Very good advice.

Plus, these are the same guys that Hal had to deal with...

Many of them are - although when Sky first had to deal with them they were lower on the totem pole. One of them he dealt with back then is now one of the ARCOs - who was given a pass on violating procedural and evidentary rules by the NAVCO. So I wouldn't give Sky much hope on his second (or is it third) run at these guys.

Although - for those who haven't gotten the word. The Pinhead has been terminated as CAP National Commander and it appears more Posse heads are going to roll over there. So hope springs eternal that a Bilge Mouse can bring down the Grandees.

those who are responsible for managing and directing programs will prefer to work with team players

Sky's big fault back then was informing the Poobahs that they had serious problems with their aviation safety program. I guess that made him a non-team player. All the team players were the ones running the program and flying the missions with little regard for safety. Then when one of the them 'bought the farm', killing a good friend of Sky's in the process, he was even more unwanted. You see - they rushed to judgement and tried to bury the whole affair and Sky was sitting there telling them 'I told you so' and then asking 'What are you going to do about it?' Neither of which the Team "Managers" wanted to hear since all they wanted to do was Cover Their Nether Regions.

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The one I am abandoning is my fifth run at these guys.

I haven't been attentive because of the Pinhead problem. One of the problems down here was that Pineda taught one of the old DSOs Florida Wing Black Hole tactics. Since then they have "lost" five fully executed offers of use. The major problem in a volunteer organization is that no one can yell at you if something gets "lost." So the best way to deal with a PITA is to lose his stuff until he gets bored and goes away. Well, it has taken a very long time, but it looks like Black Hole administration is finally going to prevail.
 
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I had thought you were pretty happy doing your augmenting duties. Whats flipped the switch on you?
 
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I had thought you were pretty happy doing your augmenting duties. Whats flipped the switch on you?


Complex compound issue. I think the trigger was that three very high ranking members of that organization that Forewatch charges us virtual dollars to mention solicited me to rejoin since the Ayatollah was gone. That got me to thinking about how I joined this outfit (and that one) to utilize my flying skills and I was being prevented from doing so by raw politics. As much fun as they can be, a desk and a computer are not an airplane. Consider also that augmenting requires a fifty mile round trip in an antique vehicle that gets ten miles on a three dollar gallon of gas and it takes me at least thirty minutes to dress in ODU because of an old back injury that makes it nearly impossible to put on boots, and you start to approach parity in a cost/benefit analysis. Then, take into account what they did to my good friend Hal, and you are suddenly over the edge.
 
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it takes me at least thirty minutes to dress in ODU because of an old back injury that makes it nearly impossible to put on boots...


Would boots and a flight suit be any easier? Confused

I hate lacing boots -- so I bought a pair of Chippewa flight boots with front zippers back during my helicopter days. They are a little expensive, but I'm wearing the same pair I've had for a decade (though they've had new soles a couple of times). I also prefer the smooth soles that ride up on the rudder pedals easier -- as well as carry less dirt into the cockpit than lug soles.

Here's the only place I've found that carries them:

http://www.flightsuits.com/equip_boot_leather.html
 
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I have a pair of military issue side zipper flight boots, so the answer is yes. Besides, in this AOR you only fly about once a month (lots of assets) and them lace up ODU boots can very rapidly become a daily thing.

Thank you for your very kind offer. I am 700 miles from Pensacola, and when I went REYR I dumped the Centurion because it was just sitting there, so it is a 14 hour oddessey to your part of the playground. But the offer is deeply appreciated.
 
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I'm actually down in your area quite a bit with my work (Homestead, Medley, and the Seminole Tribe are a few of my clients in the area). Sometimes I have the aircraft -- other times I travel via Delta. Of course, I wouldn't be flying down there on orders -- lest I be in violation of someone else's turf... Big Grin -- but if you'd like a little "stick time" it could be arranged.
 
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That's the nicest offer I have had in weeks. I get plenty of stick time because I am fairly heavily integrated into the local GA community, but I am very much a people person, and I would like a little eyeball time.

See, you guys. If there is any reason I am going to stifle myself and pay my dues again, it is the association with nice people like this.
 
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I think the trigger was that three very high ranking members of that organization that Forewatch charges us virtual dollars to mention solicited me to rejoin since the Ayatollah was gone.

After reading what they put you thru, Breaking the United States Air Force Auxiliary – Civil Air Patrol’s Vale of Secrecy Edited by, Rev. Arnold C. Staton it is a bit amazing that you would consider rejoining the 'organization that cannot be named'.

You are a modest gentleman. I know you had served but not that you had earned all those medals.

Also the article mentions a CAP Col. Andrew S... (name abbreviated to protect the whatever) Isn't he now in the Aux and part of AuxAir7? If so, could he be the source and/or cause of your apparent 'red flag' regarding your participation in AuxAir7?

In case you are wondering how I found the above - I was looking for info on the Teflon-less One and his FDLE career when that popped up.
 
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Ski-butt used to be the District 7 Safety officer, but I think he got canned from that for the same reason he got canned from most of his other jobs: ineptitude and laziness. You may have a correct analysis, but I think most of my problems stem from the fact that we had a suck up prone DSO who became a Tony sycophant along with about half of that other organization.

As for what they put me through, it was not that much, and I attribute most of it to Tony. Ski-butt was not malicious, he is just stupid. He is actually too stupid to be malicious.

Staton was a victim of Tonyism several years ago. He started a couple of email reflectors and a blog site, but I haven't been there in years. He had a tendency to be slightly monomaniacal (as did I) the last time I was there.
 
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That link was an interesting read -- thanks for posting it. Amazing that it took so long to oust Pineda...
 
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That link was an interesting read -- thanks for posting it. Amazing that it took so long to oust Pineda...


Tony had a mentor. Rick Bowling, chairman of the Board of Governors. Apparently, and I didn't know this till I read the article, Bowling had a protector on the Air Force side. Any attempt to bring any of the derogatory information to the attention of management was greeted with this is only a disgruintled former member. It worked for years.
 
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this is only a disgruintled former member

From following the discussions on various "organization that cannot be named" boards any attempt to bring that info to management by a member lead to a 2B (Aux equivalent of dismemberment). That then made the disgruntled member a disgruntled former member. And disgruntled former members cannot file a complaint with the 'organization that cannot be named' Inspector General.

An excellent modern form of Catch-22.
 
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