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Originally posted by Forewatch:
Those who are griping about the "wanna-be" title must see themselves as one or they wouldn't care.


Hmmm...if that statement is is true -- then this statement:

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Suggestion? I have one. Dump the PSI!


Must also mean that someone griping about the PSI might possibly not be able to pass it -- or have something to hide?? Big Grin

Remember, we also have plenty of the "wish-I-still-was" folks on here...many of the negative posts come from them...
 
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Must also mean that someone griping about the PSI might possibly not be able to pass it -- or have something to hide?? Big Grin..


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"Wannabe = Wannahelp" I like it. That fits it to the tee. The majority of the Auxiliarists do just that WANT TO HELP. You wanna call me a wannabe, go right ahead. That's your right. I have the right to not to listen and continue on the path that I know that I "wannahelp". I will continue to move forward being prepared for the challenges life has to offer. I will be able to look back in my life and instead of complaining the whole time, I can actually tell my kids and grand kids that I actually tried. You know the old saying "put up or shut up". Well, I am putting up. No one can take that away.

Thank you all for the positive, supporting feedback to the Auxiliarists. We (in general) do strive to help where we can.
 
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Sector issued the "Gumby" pants to the most active OPFACs, putting all the other OPFACs "on-the-beach" until the water temps get above sixty degrees. As a result, patrol hours have taken a dump with the majority of the OPFACs on
hiatus.
 
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Sector issued the "Gumby" pants to the most active OPFACs, putting all the other OPFACs "on-the-beach" until the water temps get above sixty degrees. As a result, patrol hours have taken a dump with the majority of the OPFACs on
hiatus.


But, have you tried the NCOIC of your local CG Station? Here in 11N we get quite a bit of "surplus" stuff if we ask.
 
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We have, to no avail.
 
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Hey Forewatch,

 
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Sounded as though there was a bit of a squabble.
Squabble? They're all dead!
Oh! Must have been more of a tiff then.
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"Wannabe = Wannahelp"


I like that also.

The alternative is "D'ohwannabe = J'uswannab*tch"

I'm in this mans Aux 'cause I'm completely gruntled with the organization and it's mission.

I understand the D'ohwannabe's rational as much as I did the "Volunteers" in the A.D. & Reserve Army with their "FTA" slogans, tattoos, etc.

Christ, I went to Bingo once with my Mom, and decided I didn't like it but what I didn't do is go find one of their message boards & lurk around disparaging their people & culture.

Flame on!
Out.
 
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I did another 'laughs and giggles' search this time:

wannabe "coast guard auxiliary"

FWIW and funnier then heck is this thread pops up as one of the first results.

One of the more interesting results comes from the BoaterEd board Demise of the Auxilary help? thread.

That thread started out discussing the demise of the Aux towing ops on a local lake. And it has its share of ex-Auxies (one left in 1989) and current Auxies trading quips.

But offered as an ancedote as to what at least one faction means when it uses 'wannabe' I offer you the following quote from that thread (and as far as I know none of the posters on BoaterEd are the posters here).

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I agree with Freddy...what are they there for?? In woodbridge, VA they are rude, arrogant and will promptly let you know that they do not need any help from a lowly person like me...

What I saw was a Navy "wannabe" who screamed at his volunteer crew, made them stand side by side, while he refueled, would not allow them to speak to me ( I was going to ask about the voluntary boat check) and then screamed at me as I moved his line to keep it from snagging across the other side of the pier.

I was later then lectured that they were "patrolling" on behalf of Homeland Security (there is an electric powerplant up the Potoamc, and that I needed to stand away from his craft, before he called the authorities.

I simply walked away in disgust. The marina owner later commented, that things "have really changed".


I can understand your loyalty to the Aux but don't play ostrich and think that those kind of wannabes don't exist throughout the Aux - and they run off the members who aren't just like them.
 
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Sounded as though there was a bit of a squabble.
Squabble? They're all dead!
Oh! Must have been more of a tiff then.
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Hal, I understand your point completely.

and absolutely your going to run up on a "little hitler" from time to time, but I seriously have not met anyone in the Aux with that attitude.

And I don't think it is a prevalent as someone new to the organization and reading this board may assume.
 
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My definition of "Wannabee" is someone who doesn't have what it takes to make it in the military or real life but who uses a position in a volunteer organization to pretend that he does. YMMV. Have any of you ever noticed how few of the real "Captains of Industry" are active in the fraternal style social organizations?
 
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I dunno..

From my perspective it seems that the people that want to contribute do and others that do not spend a lot of time running down others on this board.

I appreciate what dittymitty said:
Remember This....A few of the regular posters here have been thrown out of the Auxiliary. Would you really support an organization that "threw you out"? If the company that you worked for fired you would you run around and tell everyonehow great the company that fired you is. There are thousands of good, productive Auxiliarists out there that are happy with the organization and doing great things for it. Less than .0001% are on this forum whining about how they were mistreated.

Another poster lamented the use of the PSI and how it had a negative effect on the Auxiliary. Then flyandscuba posted: Must also mean that someone griping about the PSI might possibly not be able to pass it -- or have something to hide??

Remember, we also have plenty of the "wish-I-still-was" folks on here...many of the negative posts come from them...

This ansewrs many of the questions that I had about certain posters and their motivation on this board.

Now - we all have our issues and problems. I am sure I could be a better Auxiliarist in certain ways but overall I think my attitude is pretty good.

What I am taking away from this forum, should I ever hear someone confront another about being a wannabe or something disparaging to that effect, is that I will jump right in the mix and defend him or her. Might I suggest that instead of using the term wannabe that derides pretty much everything that the Auxiliary has done that is positive, perhaps just calling the guy/gal a moron would suffice?

That way you are just taking the individual to task and not the whole organization.

Seems like a good compromise to me.
 
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Hal, I understand your point completely.

and absolutely your going to run up on a "little hitler" from time to time, but I seriously have not met anyone in the Aux with that attitude.

And I don't think it is a prevalent as someone new to the organization and reading this board may assume.


You've never met PNACO Viggo Bertelsen have you?? Angry Whip
 
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...Still moving forward. Wife and Kids still are proud of me. Still up for the challenge. Past the "wannabe" stage. Learned how to apply the "wannahelp" phase. Now in "gonnahelp" stage. Anyone else with me?
 
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This ansewrs many of the questions that I had about certain posters and their motivation on this board.


Just for the record, and because ditty painted with a rather broad brush: I am still an Auxie; have never been disenrolled; I was an Auxie back in 1957; I was active duty for 4 years; I came back to the Auxiliary in 2001.

I am very proud of the organization and my service in it - BUT I will often invoke the traditional "sailor's right to b*tch and moan" both here and elsewhere.

Is there a problem with that?

Anyway, that's my 100 Cents:



...gjd
 
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I dunno..

From my perspective it seems that the people that want to contribute do and others that do not spend a lot of time running down others on this board.

I appreciate what dittymitty said:
Remember This....A few of the regular posters here have been thrown out of the Auxiliary. Would you really support an organization that "threw you out"? If the company that you worked for fired you would you run around and tell everyonehow great the company that fired you is. There are thousands of good, productive Auxiliarists out there that are happy with the organization and doing great things for it. Less than .0001% are on this forum whining about how they were mistreated.

Another poster lamented the use of the PSI and how it had a negative effect on the Auxiliary. Then flyandscuba posted: Must also mean that someone griping about the PSI might possibly not be able to pass it -- or have something to hide??

Remember, we also have plenty of the "wish-I-still-was" folks on here...many of the negative posts come from them...

This ansewrs many of the questions that I had about certain posters and their motivation on this board.

Now - we all have our issues and problems. I am sure I could be a better Auxiliarist in certain ways but overall I think my attitude is pretty good.

What I am taking away from this forum, should I ever hear someone confront another about being a wannabe or something disparaging to that effect, is that I will jump right in the mix and defend him or her. Might I suggest that instead of using the term wannabe that derides pretty much everything that the Auxiliary has done that is positive, perhaps just calling the guy/gal a moron would suffice?

That way you are just taking the individual to task and not the whole organization.

Seems like a good compromise to me.


Now let me correct you here... the really negative posts come from you newbies. Yep.. you're the ones launching the personal attacks. If you don't agree with an opinion here, fine.. disagree with it, but don't start throwing flames at the person who you disagree with.

It's understandable that some of you newbies are in Auxie Lala Rainbow Land right now. You're still in the honeymoon phase. It'll wear off.. trust me.

The Auxiliary is a pretty damn good organization, but it has it's faults. Overlooking those faults does nothing to correct them.
 
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Someone once said (and whom that is, I don't recall. It really doesn't matter): "If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem". Now, I am not pointing fingers and any particular individual. If that statement offends you, then...

As far as the honeymoon phase? If you want to equate this to marriage, we can. Marriage takes a lot of hard work. In a marriage, you are a member of a team. Nobody said that there would be sunshine blown up my (well, you can figure it out). If that team doesn't work well, then the team will fail. A negative individual does not promote productive work. If you don't like the fact that us "newbies" are taking pride in something, trying to make the best of something (even though we are surrounded by a bunch of negativity), then maybe it's time to take your toys to another sand box. Us "newbies" will someday be "old salts" as well (whether we are from regular service or not). How we treat our generation of "newbies" will influence how they perceive things and where this organization goes.

Forewatch, you are correct that there are faults here. Overlooking them is the same as ignoring a festering wound. Like I said above, I am trying to be part of the solution. Negativity in any form will not produce positive results. this started as an attack on "wannabe's" whether a newbie or an old salt.

An old wise person will take a young enthusiastic person and help the overall team to succeed. A crotchety ol' fart will just complain. (You can take the terms "old" and "young" as a relative term not a relation to birth age)
 
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You've never met PNACO Viggo Bertelsen have you??

A better question would be....Have you ever met him sober?
 
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My definition of "Wannabee" is someone who doesn't have what it takes to make it in the military or real life but who uses a position in a volunteer organization to pretend that he does. YMMV. Have any of you ever noticed how few of the real "Captains of Industry" are active in the fraternal style social organizations?



Possibly... BUT, ALOT of the auxiliarists I've met were successful in their own right in some previous or current career field (sometimes military/sometimes not). They are generally older and truly enjoy their voluteering. Just maybe, they recall when public service was poplular. Just maybe, they recall organizations such as the peace corp, etc. Just maybe, they also volunteer at church, school, scouts, etc. Just maybe, they remember JFK asking Americans not what the country can do for them but what they can to for their country.

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You've never met PNACO Viggo Bertelsen have you?? Angry Whip

If I seem to recall, wasn't he the one who visited a Cutter and put on a hissy fit because he didn't have Side Boys to pipe him aboard??
 
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