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Originally posted by Guardrail256:
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Can anyone say CAP? ENGELJ, I'm sure there are people like that in the Coast Guard Auxiliary. There are control freaks everywhere. But it can't be as bad as CAP.

Deposit two dollars, please. You said the "C" word... twice.

For every Forewatch, there must be a dozen Todd Puglises. What, you never heard of Todd Puglise? He was quietly teaching PE over near Sarasota until they told him that he couldn't continue to teach without disclosing his banking information. He quietly walked. I recently tried to inform him that the paradigm had softened. He wasn't interested.

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Originally posted by Forewatch:

I'm only here because I have a crush on GeeJay!

Understandable, of course!

And as this forum drifts towards becoming a C*P Forum, FW's virtual money jar must be overflowing. . .

And, as I recall, this country was founded on active "dissent!"

...gjd

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. . . until they told him that he couldn't continue to teach without disclosing his banking information.

National required IT members to have DO status? Is this true? I thought the requirement was only for those in any OPS activity.

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Originally posted by CaptainBosco:

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. . . until they told him that he couldn't continue to teach without disclosing his banking information.

National required IT members to have DO status? Is this true? I thought the requirement was only for those in any OPS activity.

There was a time when it first came out that the people disseminating the information were against the short form. Whether that is what Todd ran into, or whether the short form required banking information access waiver, or whether it was something entirely different, I don't know. I do know that I have not been reimbursed for two patrols I did last year, because they won't reimburse me without electronic banking information similar to what all the "phishing" emails want, and they don't have any procedure to take the information over a secure line or in an encrypted form. I don't mind the finance center having my information, I just don't want anyone else to get it while I am giving it to them.

The form that you can fill out online is secure (as much as anything is these days), plus you could fax it to them too.

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Originally posted by Forewatch:
I remain here because I still care what happens to the Auxiliary, and I remain hopeful that one day that idiotic useless thing called the PSI will go away.

Might not be much longer. AP status members can now wear the uniform, get elected, vote, and do almost anything while waiting, as long as they *have* filled out the paperwork. Not much more backtracking they can do, unless they ease up DO in AUXAIR or get rid of the fingerprints for OS...

I think for a member of the military to badmouth their service to civilians is wrong, except in an anonymous place like a forum. To each other though I don’t have a problem with it. *****ing from Soldiers has been around since the first ape picked up a rock. Even our ‘greatest generation’ of WWII veterans came up with the terms SNAFU and FUBAR.

I think it is different for the Auxiliary though. While it is part of the CG I don’t think it has that same ‘protected status’ that a Coastie would have talking about the CG with a civilian.

The reason I think a forum is an exception is because the person is anayoumous if they want to be. I look at this forum as a confessional, you can say what you want (within bounds of legality) and get away with it. I have seen people come on here and say, “Call me sir, or Sergeant Major“ and the like, which I think is ridiculous. However most people no matter what rank are pretty casual. And dissent is sometime necessary. Where else are we supposed to get out our frustration and learn from one another?

If it wasn't for this forum I might have joined CAP!

Thank God for dissenters!

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Also the favorite quote of our first homegrown terrorist who blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and the pre-school children in it.

And when I first heard about it, my first thought was I wonder what short-ducked, egotistical megalomanic pulled what idiotic move to pi$$ him off so bad?

The FBI was the short-ducked, egotistical megalomanic (in his opinion) that pi$$ed him off so bad. He agreed that dissent was a good thing, he dissented with the way the FBI handled WACO, and saw himself as an insurgent.

Your first thought was who pi$$ed him off?? who cares? My first thought was that he could have kept the children out of it.

I think keeping the adults out of it would of been nice also.

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I think keeping the adults out of it would of been nice also.

You'll get no argument from me on that. No doubt he was a major anti-social Kook, but the FBI can be pretty arrogant, and they almost never take into account what their arrogance might trigger in socially unstable targets of their harrassment. Read "Every Knee Shall Bow" by Jess Walter.

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I think keeping the adults out of it would of been nice also.

You'll get no argument from me on that. No doubt he was a major anti-social Kook, but the FBI can be pretty arrogant, and they almost never take into account what their arrogance might trigger in socially unstable targets of their harrassment. Read "Every Knee Shall Bow" by Jess Walter.

Why would they?? The FBI, you and I, and every body else should do what is right, regardless of what "socailly unstable" morons may or may not do. That said, I have met some FBI agents when I was in Law Enforcement, and heard a few war stories from other cops who have put up with the FBI, as well. They are probably the most overated law enforcement agency in America. Many depts end up with a few bad apples, and get rid of them. The FBI, being a federal agency, finds it very difficult to fire somebody...

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Originally posted by Forewatch:
Deposit two dollars, please. You said the "C" word... twice.

I'm gonna make you a rich man, Forewatch!

I'm gonna make you a rich man, Forewatch!

That will be interesting to see since FW is a member of the gentler sex.

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Originally posted by FL51D7:
I'm gonna make you a rich man, Forewatch!

That will be interesting to see since FW is a member of the gentler sex.

Whoops. I assumed that FW was a man because FW's first name is Chris. I guess it's short for "Christina", not "Christopher."

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Whoops. I assumed that FW was a man because FW's first name is Chris. I guess it's short for "Christina", not "Christopher."

No, it actually for "Christian" which is what she will make out of you when she shows you her martial arts moves.

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Originally posted by skyray33158:

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Whoops. I assumed that FW was a man because FW's first name is Chris. I guess it's short for "Christina", not "Christopher."

No, it actually for "Christian" which is what she will make out of you when she shows you her martial arts moves.

Ah, but can she match my JEDI skills?

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FW is a member of the gentler sex.

"Gentler?" Well . . .

See the link below for the "dissent" over background checks:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070830/ap_on_sc/nasa_background_checks

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Originally posted by CaptainBosco:

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I hear on this board and elsewhere in the Auxiliary, the concept that discussion, disagreement and dissent is somehow disloyal, disruptive and anti-Aux/anti-military.

I am going through Crew Training. This topic recalls two items from TCT.

• That TCT can "provide direction for continuous improvement to team performance."
• Assertiveness is one of the standards of TCT.

The Boat Crew Seamanship Manual says assertiveness is

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actively participating in problem-solving, by stating and maintaining a position until convinced by the facts that your podsition is wrong."

The book also says the coxswain should:

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. . . encourage input and feedback"

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". . . treat questions and concerns with respect."

I like these concepts and standards enough to also use them as a VFC.

If you're going through TCT right now....and are also becoming...or are the VFC....I'd strongly encourage you to get a copy of the TCT Manual (also available on lineI believe).
It offers about the best info (imo) currently available for promoting leadership and other significant principles that can not only be used for all Flotilla members...both organizationally ....and in their personal lives.