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From the TIMES:

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British soldiers banned from using live bullets to save money

British soldiers are being forced to train with blanks rather than live rounds to save money.
The entire Territorial Army (TA) and a number of nonfrontline regular army units will be affected by the ban on the use of real bullets in personal weapons, according to defence sources.
Soldiers bound for Afghanistan will be spared the restrictions, but even they will start training with live rounds only in the last three months before departure.
Those learning to shoot as part of basic training will also be allowed to use real bullets.
Patrick Mercer, the Tory MP and a former infantry commanding officer, said: “The idea that our frontline reserves should not be able to use live rounds is quite extraordinary.

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Yesterday a Royal Marine was killed on foot patrol when a Taliban bomb exploded near Gereshk in southern Afghanistan. He was the 208th British serviceman to die in the conflict.
The bullet ban is the result of a £700m cut in the money available to run the army in the UK.
Soldiers are required to maintain basic standards of proficiency in the use of their weapons; the SA80 is the standard issue service rifle, while officers use a Browning 9mm pistol.
They must pass an annual test, demonstrating their ability to clean their weapons, fire at a target to calibrate or “zero” the sights, and then achieve a specific score firing live rounds.
They fire a minimum of 100 live rounds, with the average noninfantry soldier firing about 300 a year. The cost of a single SA80 live round is approximately 30p, compared with 10p for a blank.

The Ministry of Defence conceded that tank and artillery units had also seen a sharp cut in the number of rounds they were allowed to fire on training exercises.
The number of artillery rounds fired in training fell from 20,000 in 2003-2004 to half that figure last year and is even fewer this year.
Computer simulation is being used as an alternative, but it cannot reproduce the experience of live firing.


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The TA has also been ordered to cut in half the training for its soldiers, with funding for “man-training-days” for reservists cut from 90 a year to 50 for some and 30 for others.
Last week a mother of a soldier serving in Afghanistan revealed that she had spent £1,000 per tour sending her son kit because he was so poorly equipped.
Lorna Daniel, 52, from Looe, Cornwall, has sent Paul, 29, a corporal with the 2nd Royal Tank Regiment, items including a high-quality sleeping bag, vests, gloves and torches.

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Claptrap Im afraid.
 
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Your Guys deserve a lot better. This kind of crap is a morale crusher. Anyone who would criticize British troops needs to realize that when a Soldier cant get what he needs it can impact his safety and that of his comrades as well. Soldier on Lads. Hopefully enough political fallout will change this. Blanks, Holy Sh't
 
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Its not true billford my friend, where live rounds are required they will be used! Cant zero a weapon with blanks Mate!! Wink
 
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Redcoat, Pardon me for not being more clear. I think perhaps we agree that to retain proficiency with your personal defense weapon there's no substitute for sufficient practice with live rounds. If you cut down on training and equipment to save money on Soldiers they are likely to suffer when they need to be able to fight.

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Agreed billford my friend! Frown
 
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