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The battle for Fallujah has now fallen into a flippin video game. Thats pretty disgraceful.

It's all about the money

Yeah, and that is exactly why this video game is insulting to all those who fought in this pitched street fight. These gaming companies just have no clue to the impact they make on society.

Um? What about all the games made about historical battles in world war 2, Vietnam, etc...? It happens. As long as the marines who were involved are getting compensated for their time then so be it. Those who want no part of don't have to. Where's the problem?

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Originally posted by warpig79:
Um? What about all the games made about historical battles in world war 2, Vietnam, etc...? It happens. As long as the marines who were involved are getting compensated for their time then so be it. Those who want no part of don't have to. Where's the problem?

Thank you. How can you be angry at this and not at every other war game? Many ARE based on true events. The impact on society?!!?!?! Are you kidding? Please enlighten me to the O SO GREAT impact on society that this game will have.

If it has some documentry clips in it, it may have some worth..

There is a game for Black Hawk Down

If it provides informative clips that help the player understand the story it has value.

Perhaps one that will never be taught in school..

Golleeee! I'm sorry when did WAR become a game ?? The last time I looked the the cost of war was death(to the Soldier) loss (to the family) and destruction ( to anything in the way) the only cost for a game 20 bucks..

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Originally posted by warpig79:
As long as the marines who were involved are getting compensated for their time then so be it. Those who want no part of don't have to. Where's the problem?

I thought Marines were trained to fight real conflicts ..not act as GAME PIECES..

lol @ ignorant people STILL not being able to come up with a response about the older generation and the games that relate to them. Some of you need to actually go to school and learn some debate skills :\.

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Originally posted by Guardsman_Ca:
Golleeee! I'm sorry when did WAR become a game ?? The last time I looked the the cost of war was death(to the Soldier) loss (to the family) and destruction ( to anything in the way) the only cost for a game 20 bucks..

Why is this particuliar game so offensive?
Is it because it's the most recent?
You choose from the plethora of WWII computer and video games.
There is a ever mounting list of games for Vietnam. But not a peep of outrage on them..
You can even play Army on the game "America's Army".

Again, if the game is interspersed with informative documentry clips about the battle
then it has some information value.

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Originally posted by GunDog1095:



Why is this particuliar game so offensive?
Is it because it's the most recent?
You choose from the plethora of WWII computer and video games.
There is a ever mounting list of games for Vietnam. But not a peep of outrage on them..
You can even play Army on the game "America's Army".

Again, if the game is interspersed with informative documentry clips about the battle
then it has some information value.

So do books and I'm sure there are DVDs that document some of these battles

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Originally posted by One3Fox:
lol @ ignorant people STILL not being able to come up with a response about the older generation and the games that relate to them. Some of you need to actually go to school and learn some debate skills :\.

If I were trying to become a politician debate skills would be a great asset as would lying and cheating but since I have no plans to run for any political office it would be a waste of time for me.

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Originally posted by Guardsman_Ca:

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Originally posted by GunDog1095:



Why is this particuliar game so offensive?
Is it because it's the most recent?
You choose from the plethora of WWII computer and video games.
There is a ever mounting list of games for Vietnam. But not a peep of outrage on them..
You can even play Army on the game "America's Army".

Again, if the game is interspersed with informative documentry clips about the battle
then it has some information value.

So do books and I'm sure there are DVDs that document some of these battles

Agreed, but try and get kids to pay attention
to a book or DVD documentry.
This could be a tool to make them want to do more research.

You would be very hard pressed to find a book
or DVD that isn't leaning left with regards to the information and doctrine.

I somewhat agree. Families who had soldiers killed in Iraq do not want to see a video game that is based off of the cruelity and violence that a game portrays. In ways it is disrespectful to those people. But in other ways its all about the money, and they just make the games to make money, so people can play it and enjoy it. Even though I love playing video games and im a gamer, I don't think that a video game should be based off of real life tragedies that happen to soldiers in war.

I am hoping this game will do is bring a better understanding of the gravity and chaos that was Fallujah,


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Originally posted by Cadet_SimsA

I don't think that a video game should be based off of real life tragedies that happen to soldiers in war.

Have you even read the article or the above comments? Try telling us that over 20 years ago when the first video game based on real life tragedies of soldiers in war was sold! And why are so many of the consultants to this game the surviving soldiers in Fallujah???

I can't WAIT for this game!!! I hope it is good. Doubtful it will be better than Call of Duty 4 though...

the arabs have been making video games about iraq and setting ied's for years now.wheres the outrage there. oh i know its all the ban everything crowd again.put some useless label on it and move on feel like you did something already.

BTW i doubt i will beat call of duty 4..#5 sucks.

No, I agree, this game should be stopped, and all of the other games. I mean, look at "Operation". See how it mocks the very serious field of surgery? I find it distasteful and disrespectful of all of the skilled Surgeons, and of the poor patients that didn't make it through. Or, "Battleship". Making a fun game based on global naval battles, when we lost so many seamen throughout history. Shameful. "Whack a Mole", "Mousetrap" and "Hungry Hungry Hippos". I cannot advocate animal cruelty. "The Game of Life", life is not a game. "Hangman" advocates capital punishment. "Cootie" and "Ants in the Pants", STDs are no laughing matter. "Barrel of Monkeys" is just plain racist. "Candyland" is insensitive to diabetics. "Mall Madness" simply encourages conspicuous consumerism. "Ouija Board" is clearly violating any number of religious beliefs. And "Twister" obviously encourages promiscuity.

All I have to add is, "Lighten up, Francis". Get over it, it's a ****ing game. Nothing else. Good grief. Buncha uptight jackasses.

Though I still that it's a little too early for this kind of game to be released, this game is really not that different from WWII-based games that uses real events, for example Brothers in Arms.

From my understanding based on an interview article with the main director of this game, the game will be pretty based on the personal experiences of the Marines who fought in this important battle. That would also include the use of rules of engagement as there would be civilians in that game. What the game would present to players is that war is an ugly task that others must do. I'm hoping that the game somehow portrays some of the real-life stresses that US service members face when in Iraq: IEDs, hunting down insurgents hiding with the civilian populace, loss of comrades.

The main purpose of this game is to pretty much educate the players about "modern combat". Sure, there would always be bungholes who laugh everytime a Marine would get shot, but then again they probably also do it while watching movies. But if this game somehow tells players the reality of combat and the sacrifices our men and women in uniform make as long as keeping it politically neutral, then this game succeeds.