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The Master Chief
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Shipboard terms for left and right, respectively. Confusing those two could cause a ship wreck. In Old England, the starboard was the steering paddle or rudder, and ships were always steered from the right side on the back of the vessel. Larboard referred to the left side, the side on which the ship was loaded. So how did larboard become port? Shouted over the noise of the wind and the waves, larboard and starboard sounded too much alike. The word port means the opening in the "left" side of the ship from which cargo was unloaded. Sailors eventually started using the term to refer to that side of the ship. Use of the term "port" was officially adopted by the U.S. Navy by General Order, 18 February 1846.

Anohter nautical tidbit!

MMCM(SS) Greg Peterman USN Retired
 
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Interesting - I always was stationed on the Port Side Forward.
 
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The way I always remember Port/Starboard/and the lights they represent (mmcmss will probably talk about the lights later) is:
Port - Left - Red --- Both Port & Left have 4 letters
Starboard - Right - Green --- Right & Green both have 5 letters.
 
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I could always distinguish them because port is on the left and that's what we always seemed to do....just left port..
 
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Originally posted by 93Corvette:
The way I always remember Port/Starboard/and the lights they represent (mmcmss will probably talk about the lights later) is:
Port - Left - Red --- Both Port & Left have 4 letters
Starboard - Right - Green --- Right & Green both have 5 letters.

Port wine is red.

"Mack the Knife"
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Illegitimi non carborundum
 
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And just when you thought it was safe to duck into the pilothouse again, here's a tidbit of obscure information concerning orders to the helmsman. From the Navy History Center
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Orders to the Helm/Rudder

For centuries, orders to the helmsman were given in terms of the position of the tiller rather than the rudder. A helmsman would push a tiller in the opposite direction he wanted the vessel to turn. This practice continued even when a ship was steered by a wheel. Orders were not given in terms of the rudder until the second decade of the twentieth century. The change became official in the United States Navy in 1913, as promulgated in General Order No. 30, and clarified the following year in General Order No. 98.

GENERAL ORDER
No. 30

NAVY DEPARTMENT
Washington, D. C., May 5, 1913

ORDERS GOVERNING THE MOVEMENTS OF THE RUDDER.

1. On and after July 1, 1913, the present designations "starboard" and "port" governing movements of a ship's helm are hereby ordered discontinued in orders or directions to the steersman, and the terms "right" and "left," referring to movement of the ship's head, shall thereafter be used instead.

2. The orders as to rudder angle shall be given in such terms as "Ten degrees rudder; half-rudder; standard rudder; full rudder;" etc., so that a complete order would be "Right--Half-rudder," etc.

3. Commanders in chief and commanding officers acting independently may, in their discretion, institute the above changes at an earlier date.

F. D. ROOSEVELT,

Acting Secretary of the Navy.
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Just my own thought on the matter concerns the date of the order. On April 15th 1912 a certain White Star liner got her name in the headlines. As portrated in the recent movie, there was some debate as to the helm order given by the Watch Officer on Titanic. Starboard your helm, or words to that effect, but the helmsman turned the ships wheel to port.

Folks picked that up as maybe a Hollywierd film mistake, but it may actually have been the correct order and action.

This general order, just a year after the sinking, may have been a reaction by the Navy. A Possibility ???

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Just one more reason I became a SeaBee and not a Fleeter....Thanks shipmates for the education...
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Originally posted by MastersMate:
And just when you thought it was safe to duck into the pilothouse again, here's a tidbit of obscure information concerning orders to the helmsman. From the Navy History Center
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Orders to the Helm/Rudder

For centuries, orders to the helmsman were given in terms of the position of the tiller rather than the rudder. A helmsman would push a tiller in the opposite direction he wanted the vessel to turn. This practice continued even when a ship was steered by a wheel. Orders were not given in terms of the rudder until the second decade of the twentieth century. The change became official in the United States Navy in 1913, as promulgated in General Order No. 30, and clarified the following year in General Order No. 98.

GENERAL ORDER
No. 30

NAVY DEPARTMENT
Washington, D. C., May 5, 1913

ORDERS GOVERNING THE MOVEMENTS OF THE RUDDER.

1. On and after July 1, 1913, the present designations "starboard" and "port" governing movements of a ship's helm are hereby ordered discontinued in orders or directions to the steersman, and the terms "right" and "left," referring to movement of the ship's head, shall thereafter be used instead.

2. The orders as to rudder angle shall be given in such terms as "Ten degrees rudder; half-rudder; standard rudder; full rudder;" etc., so that a complete order would be "Right--Half-rudder," etc.

3. Commanders in chief and commanding officers acting independently may, in their discretion, institute the above changes at an earlier date.

F. D. ROOSEVELT,

Acting Secretary of the Navy.
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Just my own thought on the matter concerns the date of the order. On April 15th 1912 a certain White Star liner got her name in the headlines. As portrated in the recent movie, there was some debate as to the helm order given by the Watch Officer on Titanic. Starboard your helm, or words to that effect, but the helmsman turned the ships wheel to port.

Folks picked that up as maybe a Hollywierd film mistake, but it may actually have been the correct order and action.

This general order, just a year after the sinking, may have been a reaction by the Navy. A Possibility ???
 
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Dang, here I thought those were watch sections!
 
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