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I got my father's 8 digit WWII army ID number from his record of separation. I found a web site that indicated the first two digit indicated which unit he was with.

Two questions.
Was a new ID assigned if a person got transfer?
My father's ID number started with 01 which was not listed.
 
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I found a web site that indicated the first two digit indicated which unit he was with.

Not true

It designated the Corps area in which he was recruited

Was a new ID assigned if a person got transfer?
--> No, once issued it stayed with him

My father's ID number started with 01 which was not listed.
--> 01 designated 1st Army Corps Area (look at the link below)

Look here for Serial Number info
 
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My father's ID number started with 01 which was not listed.
--> 01 designated 1st Army Corps Area (look at the link below)

Look here for Serial Number info


That web site says:
1st Corps Area - 11,000,000 to 11,999,999

I don't have the exact number with me but my father's ID number was something like
01 123 123 Confused

He would have enlisted or been drafted in Illinois.

Also, Were Sound and Flash unit number unique?
He was the officer in charge of one of this units.

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Does anyone know if this system was applied to those who served in the Korean War?
 
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It might have, Patriot. When I enlisted (RA) in Colorado 1961, my Service Number number began with 17. As I recall, Draftees (US) had Service Numbers beginning with 5 and National Guardsmen's Service Numbers began with 2.
 
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He was the officer in charge of one of this units

Officer !! Now that's a horse of a different color

Officers serial numbers are determined on a totally different basis

His draftee number would have been stricken on receipt of his commission

I have no knowledge on how Commissioned Officers service numbers work
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Were Sound and Flash unit number unique?

Might have been his roster number within the unit
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Does anyone know if this system was applied to those who served in the Korean War?

Pretty much from the 1940s through the end in in the late 1960s
 
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There were several post war changes. This site provides a little detail:

http://users.skynet.be/jeeper/page83.html
 
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Officer !! Now that's a horse of a different color

Officers serial numbers are determined on a totally different basis

His draftee number would have been stricken on receipt of his commission

I have no knowledge on how Commissioned Officers service numbers work

That's it. I reread the first paragraph in the link you posted.

My father's enlisted ID number was 36 (inducted in Illinois).
His officer ID number was letter "O" (officer) one not zero one.
He became an officer at Ft. Sills so does the "1" indicate the location of his first officer duty station?
 
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I came in 1965, RA number was 157-ba-baba
 
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Pretty much from the 1940s through the end in in the late 1960s


Some of us were 'unique'; once the decision was made to use the SSAN/TIN, ID tags were frequently issued with both! I was issued a set at Ft Belvoir in Mar 68 with RA-11-xxx-xxx and 063-xx-xxxx!
 
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I went in the Army in 1961 and was given a service number, when I reenlisted in 1964 they were using the Social Security Numbers.
I think a 01 would have been an Officer, Regular Army 10s, Draftees 20s, National Guard 30s
 
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Are you sure about 1964, Vampire? I enlisted in June 1967 and received the RA 16 --- --- service number. Draftees were given service numbers beginning with 5.

In 1969 my unit in Germany had our dog tags changed to SSNs. My DD 214, issued in 6/70 has a service number on it.
 
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I ETS'd in Sept 67 and my Service number is nowhere on my DD214
 
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Are you sure about 1964, Vampire? I enlisted in June 1967 and received the RA 16 --- --- service number. Draftees were given service numbers beginning with 5.

In 1969 my unit in Germany had our dog tags changed to SSNs. My DD 214, issued in 6/70 has a service number on it.
 
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Originally posted by DJV1255:
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Officer !! Now that's a horse of a different color

Officers serial numbers are determined on a totally different basis

His draftee number would have been stricken on receipt of his commission

I have no knowledge on how Commissioned Officers service numbers work

That's it. I reread the first paragraph in the link you posted.

My father's enlisted ID number was 36 (inducted in Illinois).
His officer ID number was letter "O" (officer) one not zero one.
He became an officer at Ft. Sills so does the "1" indicate the location of his first officer duty station?


The Ft. Sill serial number started with the letter O. He probably got his commission through OCS at Ft. Sill. The officer serial numbers were sequential. When I went through Sill I got O54xxxx6 to replace my RA136xxxx2.
Around 1970 everything changed to Social Security number. You used to be able to tell where someone was from (Corps area) by the first two digets of the enlisted serial number. Those with 13 came from PA, NJ and DEL. The prefexes were RA - Regular Army, ER - enlisted Reserve, NG - National Guard and US - Draftees.

The prefixes for Officers were OF - Regular Army and O - Army Reserve. Officers were further categorized by USA for U.S. Army which denoted a regular and AUS for Army of the United States which denoted reserve officers on active duty. Generally if an officer had an OF serial number he was a ring knocker from West Point.
 
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You used to be able to tell where someone was from (Corps area) by the first two digets of the enlisted serial number. Those with 13 came from PA, NJ and DEL. The prefexes were RA - Regular Army, ER - enlisted Reserve, NG - National Guard and US - Draftees.


You can do that with SSNs too. The first three digits denote region and (I think) nearest major city. Someone registered for Social Security in Maine will have a zero as the first digit. The numbers increase as one goes south then west. I was born in Maryland, so the first digit in my SSN is 2. A person from California would probably be in the 600 range.
 
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Originally posted by Banander27:
Officer !! Now that's a horse of a different color

Officers serial numbers are determined on a totally different basis

His draftee number would have been stricken on receipt of his commission

I have no knowledge on how Commissioned Officers service numbers work

That's it. I reread the first paragraph in the link you posted.

My father's enlisted ID number was 36 (inducted in Illinois).
His officer ID number was letter "O" (officer) one not zero one.
He became an officer at Ft. Sills so does the "1" indicate the location of his first officer duty station?


The Ft. Sill serial number started with the letter O. He probably got his commission through OCS at Ft. Sill. The officer serial numbers were sequential. When I went through Sill I got O54xxxx6 to replace my RA136xxxx2.
Around 1970 everything changed to Social Security number. You used to be able to tell where someone was from (Corps area) by the first two digets of the enlisted serial number. Those with 13 came from PA, NJ and DEL. The prefexes were RA - Regular Army, ER - enlisted Reserve, NG - National Guard and US - Draftees.

The prefixes for Officers were OF - Regular Army and O - Army Reserve. Officers were further categorized by USA for U.S. Army which denoted a regular and AUS for Army of the United States which denoted reserve officers on active duty. Generally if an officer had an OF serial number he was a ring knocker from West Point.

Thanks.
My father finished OCS at Ft.Sills in mid-1943. Then we know he went to Italy in March 1945. In between is lost to us.

My father passed away a year or so ago and his records were destroyed in the fire. I haven't had much luck in filling in the missing time.
 
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You can do that with SSNs too. The first three digits denote region and (I think) nearest major city. Someone registered for Social Security in Maine will have a zero as the first digit. The numbers increase as one goes south then west. I was born in Maryland, so the first digit in my SSN is 2. A person from California would probably be in the 600 range.

That sounds right, I'm from California and the first number of my SSN is 6
 
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Originally posted by Banander27:
Officer !! Now that's a horse of a different color

Officers serial numbers are determined on a totally different basis

His draftee number would have been stricken on receipt of his commission

I have no knowledge on how Commissioned Officers service numbers work

That's it. I reread the first paragraph in the link you posted.

My father's enlisted ID number was 36 (inducted in Illinois).
His officer ID number was letter "O" (officer) one not zero one.
He became an officer at Ft. Sills so does the "1" indicate the location of his first officer duty station?


The Ft. Sill serial number started with the letter O. He probably got his commission through OCS at Ft. Sill. The officer serial numbers were sequential. When I went through Sill I got O54xxxx6 to replace my RA136xxxx2.
Around 1970 everything changed to Social Security number. You used to be able to tell where someone was from (Corps area) by the first two digets of the enlisted serial number. Those with 13 came from PA, NJ and DEL. The prefexes were RA - Regular Army, ER - enlisted Reserve, NG - National Guard and US - Draftees.

The prefixes for Officers were OF - Regular Army and O - Army Reserve. Officers were further categorized by USA for U.S. Army which denoted a regular and AUS for Army of the United States which denoted reserve officers on active duty. Generally if an officer had an OF serial number he was a ring knocker from West Point.

Thanks.
My father finished OCS at Ft.Sills in mid-1943. Then we know he went to Italy in March 1945. In between is lost to us.

My father passed away a year or so ago and his records were destroyed in the fire. I haven't had much luck in filling in the missing time.


Most of those records have been recovered by other means. File a DD-1060 requesting his records as next of kin. A lot of the pay records were not lost and yu can probably get his records from Ft. Sill as well.
 
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I filled out some form that is found on the National Archives web site. Records lost in fire.

It as been a year or so and will try again.

Who do I contact at Ft. Sills for his records?
 
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