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Actually Army Aviation got it's start at Ft. Sam Houston not Ft. Sill the first Airplane used by the Army took off from the field now located in front of the Old Brooke Army Medical Center.
 
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April 22,2009, a unit is officialy being inducted into the Special Forces at FT Bragg.

This WWII outfit would land on Jap occupied islands an stay as recon. Many were Native amercans, they performed 109 missions aand never lost a man.
They were called the "Alamo Scouts".
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April 22,2009, a unit is officialy being inducted into the Special Forces at FT Bragg.

This WWII outfit would land on Jap occupied islands an stay as recon. Many were Native amercans, they performed 109 missions aand never lost a man.
They were called the "Alamo Scouts".
Google it.


The word is Japanese, not "Jap". Where are your manners?
 
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Where are yours, Sir.

In Singapore and Hong Kong, the term is used freely as a contraction of the adjective "Japanese". The Australian news service Asia Pulse also uses the term. In Japan itself, most Japanese are apathetic about the term, according to a 2004 study.

What is considered "mannerly" is highly susceptible to change with time, geographical location, social stratum, occasion, and other factors.

If you do not like the term, may I respectfully suggest you post your objections, offer a correction, point out an ill usage...etc, without infering a lack of manners, till proven otherwise?
 
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My best friend since childhood is Japanese. He calls himself a Jap.

His unit at Ft Bragg was visited by a Japanese officer, the officer asked his ancestry then told him he was "the biggest Jap I've ever seen."
 
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April 22,2009, a unit is officialy being inducted into the Special Forces at FT Bragg.

This WWII outfit would land on Jap occupied islands an stay as recon. Many were Native amercans, they performed 109 missions aand never lost a man.
They were called the "Alamo Scouts".
Google it.


A fitting tribute to an awesome part of Army History that never should be forgotten. This country owes a debt to those men that can never be fully repaid.

I grew up hearing the details of the raid on Cabanatuan Prison Camp. The stories are told and retold by my Mother and my Aunt (their Uncle was a POW at the Camp) at every large family get together so that my generation and the generations that follow mine never forgets the sacrifice or the risk these men took so close to the Wars end, so that more would survive.

They didn't have to take the risk but they did.

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The 45th INf Div originally wore a swaztika on their patch. Again, a Native American design. It was changed before US entry into WWII.

The 45th I.D. wore an Indian good luck sign. The Germans call thiers a swastica. The German sign stood on one point the 45th's was on two points of the sign. You are coreect on the point that the insignia was changed to the Thunder Bird.


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April 22,2009, a unit is officialy being inducted into the Special Forces at FT Bragg.

This WWII outfit would land on Jap occupied islands an stay as recon. Many were Native amercans, they performed 109 missions aand never lost a man.
They were called the "Alamo Scouts".
Google it.


A fitting tribute to an awesome part of Army History that never should be forgotten. This country owes a debt to those men that can never be fully repaid.

I grew up hearing the details of the raid on Cabanatuan Prison Camp. The stories are told and retold by my Mother and my Aunt (their Uncle was a POW at the Camp) at every large family get together so that my generation and the generations that follow mine never forgets the sacrifice or the risk these men took so close to the Wars end, so that more would survive.

They didn't have to take the risk but they did.

Applause


The headquarters for the ALAMO SCOUTS ASSOCIATION is located in Kansas City,MO. At last count thier are only around 25 still living. Thay have thier convention here in K.C.. How many of you have ever heard of them or what they did during the war ? Prior to 2007 I had never heard of them. The Kansas City Star ran a long artical about them and thier reunion. I leave you with this OH SO TRUE POEM.: God and soldiers,all men adore in times of trouble then no more. When war is ended and wrongs are righted God is forsaken and the soldier is slighted.


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Army aviation began in Ft. Sill and is surrounded by many reservations and they decided to name helicopters after tribes. It was made official with AR 70-28 in 1969. The AH-1 Cobra broke the tradition when the Army was afraid of naming a gunship after a tribe but received many inquiries from tribes as to why they stopped and the policy was continued.


Try these names on for size. They were all Helo's. Iroquois,Pawnee, Kiowa, Cheyenne,Mohawk, Cherokee.


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Where are yours, Sir.

In Singapore and Hong Kong, the term is used freely as a contraction of the adjective "Japanese". The Australian news service Asia Pulse also uses the term. In Japan itself, most Japanese are apathetic about the term, according to a 2004 study.

What is considered "mannerly" is highly susceptible to change with time, geographical location, social stratum, occasion, and other factors.

If you do not like the term, may I respectfully suggest you post your objections, offer a correction, point out an ill usage...etc, without infering a lack of manners, till proven otherwise?


I've called them JAPS all my life. A cousin of mine marrie one. I called her a Jap. She was one great lady The term never bothered her. I was in and out of Japan a lot in the early 60's. I called them jap's they didn't seem too bothered by it. I called one man a NIP and he got Pi--ed. JP,this sounds like a bunch of P.C., B.S. from an inactive O-2 to me.


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Native Americans played a key role in WWII in the Pacific I though with the Navajo Code Talkers.

The Japaneese had compromised our other code methods but could not break the Navajo language.

I am sure that is part of the reason for honoring them as well as they were both worthy adversaries and honorable allies earlier in the settlement of the country and during the Civil War......just a guess though.


There were also Commanche code talkers in the ETO. They never got any reconition.


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Native Americans played a key role in WWII in the Pacific I though with the Navajo Code Talkers.

The Japaneese had compromised our other code methods but could not break the Navajo language.

I am sure that is part of the reason for honoring them as well as they were both worthy adversaries and honorable allies earlier in the settlement of the country and during the Civil War......just a guess though.


There were also Commanche code talkers in the ETO. They never got any reconition.


This is very true. I teach some of their grand children and great grand children in my Oklahoma History classes in High School. It is sometimes sad that these kids don't appreciate the sacrifices their elders made for them and this country.
 
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This is very true. I teach some of their grand children and great grand children in my Oklahoma History classes in High School. It is sometimes sad that these kids don't appreciate the sacrifices their elders made for them and this country.


Caddo tribe was friendly to North Texas settlers and protected them from attack from other hostile tribes as well as some of the raiding parties of the Civil War. All without taking sides apparently.

Here is a link which teaches parts of their language.

++http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
 
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