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I will start by saying I am freakin fed up. I know some on here have a blind allegiance to the Republican party and Bush, and so be it. That is the great thing about freedom of speech/thought.

I honestly think I can do a better job than Bush, McCain, Hilladike or Obama. I mean that.

Granted looking into my past and the high amount of women I have slept with AND having two babies mama's is not going to help my cause.

But I ,along with 1,000's of other ordinary Americans can do a better job than most of our politicians! I wish a real leader without a political tie to D.C. would run as an independent candidate. Wishful thinking....I know.


I consider myself an independent thinker. I watch all the news stations (CNN, MSNBC, FOX ect) I like to weigh everyone's opinion before I make up my mind. As I was out driving today, I passed by a gas station on Manheim Pike (By my Office) It was flashing $3.73, as if this was a deal!

At that moment I truly got pissed! I do not live pay check to pay check, to tell you the truth I put half my monthly salary back. But I do see the effects it has on my employees. Working in the staffing industry, I really feel for some of these people.

George Bush has given up a lot to show his appreciation for our Marines and troops....yeah RIGHT...SCREW HIM!

If he supports this war so much and blindly, then he should send his 2 daughters over there!

Until he does, he can suck my C*CK and B*LLS! That moron did not have the balls to volunteer for Vietnam, but he has no problems getting americans killed to protect big business interest and his Holier than thou Middle East Crusade. Screw Him!!!!

I am sick and tired of listening to him butcher the English language, I went to Slippery Rock University...yeah no big freakin deal for me...this IDIOT has an MBA from Yale an can not pronounce half of his words. SCREW HIM! He is not a leader he is an idiot in a suit.

I am sick of looking at the crap he has drug MY country through over the last 7+ years. I am sick of the rich getting tax breaks while companies can not even give their lower end workers cost of living increases. I am sick of CEO's running companies into the ground and making 440% over their work force in salary and multi million $$$$$ bonuses.

And now he sits in Saudi Arabia asking them to increase production. That is his answer to this energy crisis. I am hardly as educated as he is, but increasing production is BS! It has nothing to do with Oil prices, but The weak dollar and the high Debt we are running (Due to his fiscal policies) are the reason Oil is climbing. Someone please punch this idiot in the jimmy!

I give up, I can not support this moron! He is dumber than my 4 yr old. In fact, given some paper with crayons, my daughter could run this country better then he is!

I am done, had to get this off my chest

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Just an observation on my part, but don't you think that if WE increased our own oil production, i.e., told the envirowhackos to f-off and started doing a whole lot of drilling, there'd be less dependence on foreign oil, resulting in more output and lower prices? How can we ask a foreign nation to increase their output when we won't increase our own output? We're hypocrites and they know it.


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Just an observation on my part, but don't you think that if WE increased our own oil production, i.e., told the envirowhackos to f-off and started doing a whole lot of drilling, there'd be less dependence on foreign oil, resulting in more output and lower prices? How can we ask a foreign nation to increase their output when we won't increase our own output? We're hypocrites and they know it.


I agree with that, but I do not think drilling for more Oil is the answer either. I really believe finding ways to get off OFF oil in general is the best bet. Oil is not a renewable energy source. I am not an envirowacko, I have an S.U.V. and have a small gun collection. But some "Green" things do make sense to me.
 
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Just an observation on my part, but don't you think that if WE increased our own oil production, i.e., told the envirowhackos to f-off and started doing a whole lot of drilling, there'd be less dependence on foreign oil, resulting in more output and lower prices? How can we ask a foreign nation to increase their output when we won't increase our own output? We're hypocrites and they know it.


I agree with that, but I do not think drilling for more Oil is the answer either. I really believe finding ways to get off OFF oil in general is the best bet. Oil is not a renewable energy source. I am not an envirowacko, I have an S.U.V. and have a small gun collection. But some "Green" things do make sense to me.


I agree that we need to research and develop other energy sources, but we don't need to turn off the oil spigot until we have achieved those alternative, viable energy sources. I think clean coal technologies and nuclear power should be exploited. I do not see any future in using our food supply to create energy though...that is creating a whole other set of problems.


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Adding to my Rant:

Bush is against the proposed bump to the G.I. Bill.

I do not feel I deserve more GI Bill payouts. I am not a combat veteran. But those that have fought in this war or others do deserve to have a larger fund in this.

Bush has no problems sending our Men, Women and fellow Marines into combat and then is not prepared to help them when they return or help their families when they are gone.

HEY BUSH, F+CK YOU!

I had a veteran in my office 15 minutes ago who got back a year ago. he was extended from 12 months to 15 while over there. He had his car repossessed and almost lost his house on a 15 month deployment to Iraq.

How about a law freezing creditors for vets that are serving. is that too hard or too much to ask? Since Bush had no problem extending there stay over there, then it should not be a problem to pay them more or freeze their assets from creditors!

Thanks for looking out for these guys Bush.

Bush has no problem spending billions every month to fund the war and can not spend millions to help the veterans and their families.

What a buddy F+CKER Bush is!
 
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SgtW, The basin IS trying to help...We have over a 100 new drilling sites...and those that have existed are running out of oil....But WE are trying.... Applause
 
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Yeah, I was for the longest time a Bush supporter, but lately I seem to be drifting toward the "Fucck you Bush" side of the house. However, he does NOT have that much of an effect on the price at the pump as most people think he does. It seems to be more of a "who can I blame and finger-point at" rather than a true "what's the deal with the price of gas" issue.

Here are the issues that I believe tie all in to the price of oil:

1. OPEC
2. Supply of Crude
3. Ability to refine the crude into gasoline
4. Stupid speculators
5. World Demand

1.) OPEC consistently cuts/raises production in order to fix the markets and give them a greater profit. They have always walked a political tightrope because they have the entire civilized world by the balls.....and they know it. They keep prices high by cutting production, and then increase it just when the pressure gets a little too high. Everyone knows what they do, its just that no one can do anything about it.

2.) Contrary to what the sheep of America believe, THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF FOSSIL FUELS. True, it is a non-renewable resource, however most of American power plants are coal driven. On top of that, America has more coal than Saudi has crude. On top of THAT, America has the vast oil fields in Alaska and the entire Gulf of Mexico seems to be one big oil barrel. We just got to go and get the sh*t.

New deposits of Crude alone are being discovered on a continual basis. The only real issue is that the technology does not exist to be able to get at it or make it cost-effective to do so.

3.) The supply of crude is absolutely worthless if you do not have the ability to refine it into gasoline and distribute it to the local gas stations. Right now the refineries in America are in short supply. The lack of an ability to keep up refining with the consumption of the American consumer creates a bottle-neck effect that is a bigger factor on the price at the pump. It doesn't matter if you have a trillion barrels of oil a day coming into America, if you can only refine 300 million of that, the rest of it does nothing.

Refineries are obscenely expensive to build (think tens of BILLIONS of dollars), and the time it takes to start turning a profit from them are extreme. Not to mention the fact that eco-zealots do everything within their power to try and stop them from being built. Its no wonder the oil companies are not chomping at the bit to start building them. Plus, its really not in the self-interest of the oil companies to start making the price of gas lower, ya know? Its not evil, its just capitalism. Don't like it? Move to China or Venezuela.

4.) Market Speculators.
Want someone to hate? Hate these guys. These are the guys that are the true cause of oil prices going up and up. Hyperanalyzation and greed that these guys generate seem to keep the price of a barrel above $120. Every time the Saudi king farts, the speculators "panic" and start driving the prices up. Its the pinnacle of what a combination of stupidity and greed do to anything.

5.) World Demand
China and India. These countries are industrializing at an incredible pace. Environment be damned. With about 1/4 of all the people on the planet between the two of them, These countries are sucking down the crude as fast as they can. Rising worldwide demand is causing the sudden drop of the supply that the US has available. At least available from Saudi and the M.E.


Another interesting theory I heard was that the whole "not drilling in Alaska" plan was just smart strategic planning. Why use up your own supply when you can suck up the rest of the world's. Then, when everything's gone and the rest of the world is ****ed, we got our own huge reserves available of crude and coal to run off of until we build 1000 nuke plants. Sounds like a cool plan to me. It just sucks for the little man (which I acknowledge I am, too) in the meantime.
 
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If he supports this war so much and blindly, then he should send his 2 daughters over there!
Can there be a more assanine comment. It's not the job of any parent, much less the CiC to force their adult children to do anything. Do you think Hillary would force her kid to go to war, if she wins and we are still in this? Hardly! Do you think Obama would force his kids (if they were old enough) to go to war, if he wins, because we will still be in it, if he wins? Hardly! In fact, even if Obama wins, we'll still be in Iraq, when his kids ARE old enough. Think he'll send them. HELL NO! HELL! Obama or Hillary didn't even serve in the military

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Until he does, he can suck my C*CK and B*LLS! That moron did not have the balls to volunteer for Vietnam, but he has no problems getting americans killed to protect big business interest and his Holier than thou Middle East Crusade. Screw Him!!!!
Again... agenda driven comment. We are not in Iraq to protect big business. AND, even if we need alternate energy sources, there isn't ANY reason why we shouldn't take advantage of that which we have NOW, while this alternate energy is being discovered!

And the Vietnam comment is wholly irrelevant to this rant. Using that logic, we should NEVER elect ANYONE who hasn't served in the military. Guess that rules out Hilary and Obama, for you. Roll Eyes

Hypothetical: Liberals win in '08. At the end of that time, we will
  • Still have gasoline at over $4 per gallon
  • Still not have any alternate energy sources
  • And will still be in Iraq
You can't intelligently say this is ONLY a Bush thing, when the players don't change reality. Democraps were behind all of this from the getgo, and if they win, it will be business as usual. The best (and at least most honest) thing would be to blame it on "politicians", if you have no stomach for this.
 
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Well its my Rant and I could careless about any opinions for or against my statements, hence it is a rant!

This is not poilitically driven, I am pissed off about Bush and was letting off steam about the Idiot.

And this has nothing to do with Obama or Hillary, this is strictly about the current President. Whoever out of the 3 is elected, we will see, and I might post a rant about them!

This has nothing to do with logic either, again it is a RANT!

I have no Agenda other than to tell Bush to stick it up his corn hole.

Who said anything about this being an intelligent piece on the subject. THIS IS A RANT!
 
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Rants that are based on emotional, knee-jerk reaction are essentially worthless. It shows a lapse in critical thinking. A rant that is based on politics, shows partisan agenda, and also largely worthless. But hey! If it lowers your blood pressure. Wink

I'm not saying Bush is a Rhodes scholor but he was far better than the best liberals had to offer.
 
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Rants that are based on emotion, knee-jerk reaction are essentially worthless. It shows a lapse in critical thinking. A rant that is based on politics, shows partisan agenda, and also largely worthless. But hey! If it lowers your blood pressure. Wink


Then I am guilty of all of the above. They might be worthless, but I feel all warm and fuzzy inside!
 
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Then I am guilty of all of the above. They might be worthless, but I feel all warm and fuzzy inside!
Well if it makes you feel that fuzzy inside, perhaps we should all find a rant today. Hey! Let's make this "Rant Friday!". Big Grin
 
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I like that...Rant Friday...!
 
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Ips you just can't admit that Bush is an idiot can you. No matter how bad he is you have to compare him to democrats and say that he is better. Well that is bs. If Bush was a dem you would be calling for his head. You, my friend, is what is wrong with this country, you are more loyal to a political party than the country at large.

Now I plan to vote for McCain so you can't accusse me of being a liberal. I am doing it because he is not like Bush but an honest man who is intellegent. While I don't agree with him on every thing, Iraq and immigration, I like his fiscal attitude and his devotion to the nation. He has to pander to the right at this time to try to get elected. Sad part is a lot of people on the right don't support him.

I also like Obama and if he had more experience I would consider voting for him.

Ips you are incapable of making a impartial statement about liberals. You are all Right all the time and that is not intellegent.
 
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Ips you just can't admit that Bush is an idiot can you.
He is not an "idiot" in the most loose definition of the word. It's not that "I can't"... I just prefer to be "accurate". You should try it yourself.
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Main Entry: id·i·ot
Pronunciation: \ˈi-dē-ət\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French ydiote, from Latin idiota ignorant person, from Greek idiōtēs one in a private station, layman, ignorant person, from idios one's own, private; akin to Latin suus one's own — more at suicide
Date: 14th century
1usually offensive : a person affected with extreme mental retardation
2: a foolish or stupid person
The fact you don't like him, is nowhere in the definition of "idiot".
  • The fact he doesn't cave to one's wishes, doesn't make him an "idiot"
  • The fact that some don't agree with him, doesn't make him an "idiot"
  • The fact that someone doesn't support the war, doesn't make him an "idiot"
  • And the price of gas, doesn't make him an "idiot"
He isn't the slightest bit "idiotic"... but those who claim he is, may be showing signs they are, if they don't even understand the definition of what they are accusing others of. Roll Eyes

However, I would rather have an idiot, who would stand up for (and defend) America over a America hating, bleeding-heart liberal would would negotiate with terrorists, and cut and run from the enemy, no matter how smart he thinks he is. But I guess that's just the America lovin', redneck hillbilly in me, speaking out.
 
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does "misspoke" come to mind Ips...of course not right...hes just a redneck having trouble with the engrish language right... Angry Whip
 
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does "misspoke" come to mind Ips...of course not right...hes just a redneck having trouble with the engrish language right... Angry Whip



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Don't let one of those renegade moderators from one of the other forums catch you making disparaging remarks about the president! They get testy even when you make an off-color comment about the presidential wannabes! Ooops! Did I say "off-color?" I guess I'm a racist now... Roll Eyes


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Keg a Racist..... Eek by the way...how fast do you go...... Razz
 
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Ok, my rant!

I considered PCness which I think is a synonym for lazy but decided on Photo Enforced Traffic Lights.

The guy that invented those is probably related to the guy that invented pay toilets.

1) Photo enforced traffic lights are nothing but a taxing measure. Mad It does absolutely nothing to make people obey the law. It is meant ONLY to generate revenue. That is why, they don't put violations on your driving record.

2) Lights are designed to generate revenue by guaranteeing that they catch create "violators". There are some lights where it's impossible to get through, without being in the intersection on a red light. Example: I was at a light the other day and was turning left. The traffic was backed up to the edge of the crosswalk, going to the left. The light controlling that lane, was red the entire time that the light for me was green. It was flat impossible to turn left, unless you went out into the intersection and "essentially" waited in the intersection till that lane moved (impossible).

3) Some lights have had the yellow shortened to the point, that one can enter on a green and not get through it until it has turned red. Fact!

4) There should be NO VIOLATION, if you enter the intersection legally. In WA, if you are in the intersection when it's red, you will be cited, even if you entered on a green.

The first time I'm cited with one of these tax generating violations, I'm fighting it, if I have to go all the way to the supreme court. These lights are designed as entrapment mechanisms to generate revenue and have nothing to do with safety. Mad
 
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Ok, my rant!

I considered PCness which I think is a synonym for lazy but decided on Photo Enforced Traffic Lights.

The guy that invented those is probably related to the guy that invented pay toilets.

1) Photo enforced traffic lights are nothing but a taxing measure. Mad It does absolutely nothing to make people obey the law. It is meant ONLY to generate revenue. That is why, they don't put violations on your driving record.

2) Lights are designed to generate revenue by guaranteeing that they