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Originally posted by SgtWaltzMCIWS:
I am not one to question others service records, but if I send him out on an interview, my reputation is on the line.



Especially since it is your reputation that is on the line, it seems like it would just be fair or proper for you to have some sort of mechanism(s) for you to check on information that is presented to you.

I agree with darrindavis, you should not feel like an @ss for insisting to check on that. People check on resumés all the time.
 
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I just met with him...HE IS FULL OF SH(T. He immediatly began talking about the Rangers and all his stuff. Claimed he was fighting drug lords in Africa in the early 80's and the Russians in Afghanistan also!

I did not tell him I was a Marine til the end of the interview, I asked him if all this was on his DD214 and he said it was, but could not tell me ONE Army unit he was with.

He claims he got out of the Marines in 1980 as a CPL and went in the Army. Said he got out cause he did not want to go Force Recon..TOO MUCH SWIMMING, but wanted to be in an elite unit so went Army Ranger.

Claimed he was an E-7 when he got out of the Army, but COULD NOT GIVE ME ANY MOS's, Marine Corps or Army!

Personally I do not think he was a Marine, if he was he was a SH&TBIRD. I think I just met the KING of Marine SH^TBIRDS!

Anyone know a Fred Killinger JR that was a ranger between 80-84 that is his name.

Also claimed all the "ops" were secret and does not belong to the AL or VFW because he does not want to talk about it...but had no problem telling me.

When I told him I was a Marine at the end he did not say anything to me, but shake my hand and leave!

Halfway through the interview I could not concentrate....I just kept thinking about getting out of my chair and bashing his head in!
 
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Not sure if thats him. This MOS is a forward observer in the Army and His Resume says he was an MP in the Marines and Army, I think that part is true.

But his dates are waaaay off. Yesterday he said he got out of the Army as an E-7 and Marine Corps an E-4...He forwarded me a new resume today and it claims he was in the Army form 81-83...there is no way he could have picked up all that rank and attend all those Army High Speed schools in two years AND get operational experience!

He is alsao claiming to have stayed in Africa and fight (As an Mercenary I guess) after he got out!
 
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Not sure if thats him. This MOS is a forward observer in the Army and His Resume says he was an MP in the Marines and Army, I think that part is true.

But his dates are waaaay off. Yesterday he said he got out of the Army as an E-7 and Marine Corps an E-4...He forwarded me a new resume today and it claims he was in the Army form 81-83...there is no way he could have picked up all that rank and attend all those Army High Speed schools in two years AND get operational experience!

He is alsao claiming to have stayed in Africa and fight (As an Mercenary I guess) after he got out!


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All I can think of is the Seinfeld episode where Kramer gets Frank Costanza to cook for a Jewish Singles Social. "I was the best cooked Uncle sam had...........I sent 16 men to the latrines that night, one ended up with a hole in his colon the size of a golf ball"

 
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I help write resume's. A cover letter (1) one page and the resume', (1) one page, (2) max.

Military Service should be limited to branch, years served, and optional type of discharge.

My resume':

Military Service: United States Marine Corps, 1961-1967. Honorable Discharge.

Semper Fidelis
 
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Military Service: United States Marine Corps, 1961-1967. Honorable Discharge.



On mine, I added 2 sentences about what I did.
 
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Originally posted by SgtWaltzMCIWS:
Not sure if thats him. This MOS is a forward observer in the Army and His Resume says he was an MP in the Marines and Army, I think that part is true.

But his dates are waaaay off. Yesterday he said he got out of the Army as an E-7 and Marine Corps an E-4...He forwarded me a new resume today and it claims he was in the Army form 81-83...there is no way he could have picked up all that rank and attend all those Army High Speed schools in two years AND get operational experience!

He is alsao claiming to have stayed in Africa and fight (As an Mercenary I guess) after he got out!


I say he is a liar, and probably spent most of his time as a shitbird E-1
 
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Military Service: United States Marine Corps, 1961-1967. Honorable Discharge.



On mine, I added 2 sentences about what I did.


I only expound on the MOS part when it is relevant to the occupational field being applied for such as electronics when applying to the phone company. Really, anything that gives you an edge is fine.

I have been in a position where there were so many applicants for the same employment that it was whittled down by cover letter and no more than 2 pages. A lot of very qualified people hit the trash, but there were many left over and five were picked for interview, one hired. He turned out to be a terrific kid, just exemplary. He was an excellant choice and I have no way of knowing if there was better in the trash.

I have found that Marine Corps service is always a plus. It is self explanatory to all. I attribute that to all those great ads and almost 232 years of Marine Corps legend.

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This idiot Killinger is apparently also making waves on some other bulletin boards. Buddy of mine emailed me some interesting threads where he's claiming combat duty in South Africa and a bunch of other AOs. This guy is obviously a fool.

http://dan0oo.com/mboard/index.php?topic=8958.0

http://p082.ezboard.com/bshocklinesforum.showUserPublic...2007@shocklinesforum
 
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Ask to see his "scars" which resulted in two Hearts. Also, what medal did he get for saving lives? One should have been a Navy and Marine Corps Medal, if he put his safety on the line to help that person.


Or a letter of appreciation. like me....
 
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I read this thread today, and don't know whether to crack up laughing at this POS's stupidity, or get really PO'd at the crap.
I did an Army enlistment (1979) before joining the Corps (1984). They had just opened SFQC as an option for first timers (providing you finished basic, AIT, and Airborne School, the contract promised a shot at PrePhase, etc). I was in SFQC Class 8-80P, and was an 05BA4 (radio operator).
While I was not a 5 jump chump, I didn't do anything high speed either. I was assigned to Training Group (our flash is white, we don't fight). Absolutely nothing high speed, period. The really good part about serving in that time period was the opportunity to serve under, and learn from the folks that had BTDT in SE Asia, and some Korean vets that were still around.
During that time period, other than Benning, the Navy still ran a few people through jump school at Lakehurst. The Utah SF National Guard folks assisted in running a jump school for smoke jumpers out west. That was it.
6 out of a class of 117, I gotta say BS on, as well as the rest of the stuff.
I did know a few folks that took contracts in Rhodesia after they left active duty, but the key word is after, and they would have left active in late 1980, best I remember.
I did some Guard time (just a little), then joined the Corps as an 0861, leaving in 1987.
Like most of you, my resume has dates of service, branch, rank and honorable discharge.
I never heard an AK round fired in anger, or was in a place to have. But I can smell crap.
 
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Sometimes too one has to go beyond the Military aspect of the interview, often a poser such as this will be/or try to be, brushed up or evasive on units/awards...Opsec b.s.

Also, direct the conversation to questions of :
how did you like South Africa ? do you speak Dutch ? Most likely he would correct you and say they speak Afrikans (or Xhousa, or other local dialects).

If he was there in July ask do they vacation alot in the Summer there too? (Of course it is Winter in July there)etc. etc.

You can steer the questions to go easily beyond the military type.


The medals can be hard to follow up on sometimes. Look at JFK ,all over the place it said he was awarded the Navy Cross, for the PT 109....

Yet the Medal was something like the Meritourous Lifesaving Medal -or something such like...according to other accounts.
 
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Lt. John F. Kennedy, USNR, was awarded the Navy Marine Corps Medal.
 
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Fred Killinger has "apologized". I reported him for violating the Stolen Valor Act that was passed last year. It makes it a felony for anyone to claim Purple Hearts, Silvers, Distinguished Service Crosses, and stuff of that nature. And even then, his "apology" was half-assed and non-committal. He blamed his actions on his mother's death, and on being bi-polar.
 
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I was hired for jobs twice by Marines...I just put the time of service, what I did and the type of discharge and rank....filled in four years of my life after all...
 
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Are you sure you weren't interviewing John Rambo?
 
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Originally posted by SgtWaltzMCIWS:
I am a recruiter and when I come across someone with USMC in his/her past I usually give them a call, whether I have a position or not to see if I can help them out.

I came across and called this one guy in:

This is copied straight from his resume:

"2/1982 - 4/1982 Pathfinder School (Jungle Survival) Malaysia, Malaysia
Industry: Government and Public Sector
Soldier

Jungle survival school ran by the British SAS (Special Air Services), their equivalent of our Special Forces. Graduated and reported to South Africa with my team for our first mission.

8/1981 - 1/1982 US Ranger School Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Industry: Government and Public Sector
Soldier

Attended and graduated from US Army Ranger School. Out of 117 that attended, only 6 of us made it through.

3/1981 - 4/1981 US Army Nuremburg, Germany
Industry: Government- Military/Defense
Military Policeman

Served in Nuremberg, Germany as security at a nuclear missile site for several months. Left to attend Airborne and Ranger training.

4/1981 - 4/1981 United States Army Airborne School Lazerne, Lazerne
Industry: Government- Military/Defense
Soldier

Received Jump Wings. Left to attend Ranger School

6/1976 - 7/1980 USMC Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii
Industry: Government- Military/Defense
Military Policeman

Served four years as a Military Policeman in both Albany, Georgia and Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. Left active duty in July of 1980 with an Honorable Discharge. While in Hawaii, worked part time for Burns Security in Loss Prevention and later with a Private Investigator conducting surveillance and investigations."

I am not one to question others service records, but if I send him out on an interview, my reputation is on the line.

HE states: "Jungle survival school ran by the British SAS (Special Air Services), their equivalent of our Special Forces. Graduated and reported to South Africa with my team for our first mission"

"first mission" just does not sound right...here is the rest about his awards:

"While in the Marine Corps in Hawaii, I received two medals for saving the lives of individuals. The first was a fellow marine that experienced a heart attack while I was serving gate duty on the morning shift. I performed CPR on him until the ambulance arrived and was credited with saving his life. The second incident I came upon a drowning victim while searching for him being reported missing, and again performed CPR until the arrival of medical assistance and was again credited with saving his life. I have retained to this day accredidation in both CPR and basic medical accredidation through the Red Cross.
While serving as an Army Ranger, I received two Purple Hearts and the Bronze Star."

I do not want to accuse him, especially IF I AM WRONG, but this does not sound right...any opinions?


Just as an update about this POS, he's a POSER, well, a partial one anyway.

Thought my Marine Brothers would like to know:

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August 13, 2007
I was never a Ranger. Never served in Africa, South America or Afganistan. Never won the Bronze Star of any purple hearts. Received
honorable discharges from both services. Was discharged as a Private because I got mixed up with soldiers who got caught with hash and went
down with them. No brig time, I requested an early out as I did not feel I deserved what I got even though I took it as high up the chain as I
could. No reason to lie, just did. Boo is right, one minute I love and the next I hate. Just diagnosed with bipolar disorder last week after a
lifetime of depression and anxiety. No excuse for the lying. My mother was a cronic depressive all of her life and just killed herself four
months ago. Have not been the same since, but still no reason to lie. I do apologize to all who served in elite units who deserve the credit I
tried to get. This can be posted anywhere your forum chooses. I give no excuses and ask for no forgiveness. Jon was right from the beginning and
caught me in my lies, so I apologize to him for calling him a liar for his accomplishments to make myself look better. I deserved to get caught
and I did. My only hope now is to get better with the new medication I am on and keep seeing the psychiatrist I'm now seeing for the first time
ever. To all I deceived and called liars, I apologize because they caught me in my lies. I expect no mercy and if you desire to report me
to any military organization, you have every right to. You now have the story, do with it what you will. I'm tired of the lies, the arguments,
I'm just tired.


http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies36.htm (scroll down to Killenger)


Apparently he was a Marine, but guess he wanted to inflate his resume. His DD-214 (real) has a link posted.

RLTW,

CM
 
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