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Military.com Forums Marine Corps Discussions Marine Open Discussion Forum Need Help...Claims 2 Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star on a Resume?|
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I am a recruiter and when I come across someone with USMC in his/her past I usually give them a call, whether I have a position or not to see if I can help them out.
I came across and called this one guy in: This is copied straight from his resume: "2/1982 - 4/1982 Pathfinder School (Jungle Survival) Malaysia, Malaysia Industry: Government and Public Sector Soldier Jungle survival school ran by the British SAS (Special Air Services), their equivalent of our Special Forces. Graduated and reported to South Africa with my team for our first mission. 8/1981 - 1/1982 US Ranger School Fort Bragg, North Carolina Industry: Government and Public Sector Soldier Attended and graduated from US Army Ranger School. Out of 117 that attended, only 6 of us made it through. 3/1981 - 4/1981 US Army Nuremburg, Germany Industry: Government- Military/Defense Military Policeman Served in Nuremberg, Germany as security at a nuclear missile site for several months. Left to attend Airborne and Ranger training. 4/1981 - 4/1981 United States Army Airborne School Lazerne, Lazerne Industry: Government- Military/Defense Soldier Received Jump Wings. Left to attend Ranger School 6/1976 - 7/1980 USMC Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii Industry: Government- Military/Defense Military Policeman Served four years as a Military Policeman in both Albany, Georgia and Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. Left active duty in July of 1980 with an Honorable Discharge. While in Hawaii, worked part time for Burns Security in Loss Prevention and later with a Private Investigator conducting surveillance and investigations." I am not one to question others service records, but if I send him out on an interview, my reputation is on the line. HE states: "Jungle survival school ran by the British SAS (Special Air Services), their equivalent of our Special Forces. Graduated and reported to South Africa with my team for our first mission" "first mission" just does not sound right...here is the rest about his awards: "While in the Marine Corps in Hawaii, I received two medals for saving the lives of individuals. The first was a fellow marine that experienced a heart attack while I was serving gate duty on the morning shift. I performed CPR on him until the ambulance arrived and was credited with saving his life. The second incident I came upon a drowning victim while searching for him being reported missing, and again performed CPR until the arrival of medical assistance and was again credited with saving his life. I have retained to this day accredidation in both CPR and basic medical accredidation through the Red Cross. While serving as an Army Ranger, I received two Purple Hearts and the Bronze Star." I do not want to accuse him, especially IF I AM WRONG, but this does not sound right...any opinions? |
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Most of it sounds like BS, but this is 100% BS. |
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I do not want to post his name on here, especially if I am wrong, but where can I find out about Purple Hearts or a Bronze Star, is this public knowledge? Or a database?
And he talks about joining "HIS TEAM" I know there are SEAL teams, but I am not aware of "RANGER TEAMS" |
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WTF would US Rangers be doing in South Africa during Apartheid?
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Skids |
Seems to have covered alot of ground between 1981 and 1982 while attending all this training, some even crossing over each other. You may also ask what his MOS he received for each school and verify it.
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Marine Moderator Air Wing  |
ask him to see a copy of his dd214, all of this woulde be on it...If he says no then it likely he is a poser...
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I posted this on the Army forum and they tore the Army stuff up in his resume.
But I did not know about the two medals he claims for saving lives while in Hawaii with the Marines? |
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Smells of poo poo to me!
I might be wrong, but I thought they posted awards on DD214. |
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Good Point, but I wanted others opinion on his resume before I asked. To be honest I would feel like a complete @ss (more than usual) if I asked for his DD214 (he would know I did not believe him) and all the Valor Medals be on it. |
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Just tell him you need to verify military service, so you can state your hiring vets to the gov.
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member, for now |
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Too many issues that I do not understand. *He says he received two Purple Hearts and Bronze Star "While serving as an Army Ranger." I thought that he was in the USMC? Where and for what? *What medals did he receive for saving two lives? *Guarding a Nuke Plant in Germany sounds like B.S. unless he was in the Army. This entire "story" in his resume sounds like pure B.S. Ask him that the next time he comes in to see you to bring his certificates from all the schools he went to. Ask him who were they in combat with when he received his two hearts. Good Luck. Semper Fidelis. Blackcoat. |
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He made an apt to see me, and has not been in yet, which is why I posted this to get all my ducks in a row.
It appears in his resume he was in the Marines from 76-80 in Hawaii as an MP, then looks like the Army from 80-84..but never lists an MOS or Duty Station for the Army just Schools and 3 Valor Medals. |
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After very little thought, I've come to the decision this guy is fuull of sshhiitt. I hope he's not stating that he recieved the Bronze Star for CPR. Who knows he might have a cape under his shirt.
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The resume claims he recieved 2 purple hearts and 1 Bronze Star while in the Army...sometime between 82-84...I know there was Grenada and Panama, but those are some lofty medals he his claiming. I have talked to enough Vietnam Vets at the VFW and AL to know that this is not stuff you just throw out there...even after a few beers. Hell i do not like answering civilian questions about the Marines...to have this on your resume and so public seems odd. |
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Grenada was in Oct 83 (Urgent Fury) 2/8 and assorted Army units, including Rangers from the 75th and elements of the 82nd Airborne.
Panama - Operation Just Cause - was in Dec 89 (Kilo 3/6 and Dragons, as well as some FAST Marines), Army's 7th Light Infantry, 82nd Airborne and (probably) Rangers and numerous supporting units. |
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MODERATOR, VETERANS ISSUES  |
Ask to see his "scars" which resulted in two Hearts. Also, what medal did he get for saving lives? One should have been a Navy and Marine Corps Medal, if he put his safety on the line to help that person.
Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way! |
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"mouse" |
ask him if he knows larry....
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Basic Training |
Thought the US Army Pathfinder school was in Ft, Benning, Ga
Considering how much money it takes to send a Soldier/Marine to Ranger school, does it sound right that they only passed 6 out of 117? It's a tough school but the numbers seem a little much.
Airborne school is in Ft. Benning and I have not heard of Mobile training teams for Airborne school I am no expert on how things were in the early '80s but based on what I do know I'd call Bull on this guy. Also was he a MP or Infantry in the Army? What were his Army service dates? Ask him what his Ranger class# is you could verify with some guys over in the Army forums. If he states he was in Ranger regiment ask what Bn. If he tells you he was in Special Forces, ask what group and where the group is located. Ask if he was on an ODA. (Operational Detachment-A) I'm just throwing some stuff out for you to see if he is yanking your chain. Make sure you tell him that you have to verify this information with DA (Department of the Army). If he is stupid he'll make a mistake and say something like he was " Special Forces in the Rangers" or he couldn't put any of that info on his DD 214 because of the classified nature of his missions. Hope some of this will help. This message has been edited. Last edited by: SGTNEP, |
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Don't feel like an azz for asking for it, I've had a few employers ask for mine, its not unusual. He is the one claiming this on his resume, he should be ready to verify anything on it. Also if he shows you one, make sure it hasn't been tampered with. I would think the medals and schools should be on there, no matter how super secret he was. Also it's not that hard to get a certified copy of one, even if it was "destroyed in the St Louis fire". |
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First of all, if that is indeed quoted directly from his resume, you oughta send him to a resume writing class, instead of trying to hook him up with a job.
As to the rest, why not, like a few others have suggested, just ask to see his DD214 to confirm his military service? |
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I believe there is a Silver & Gold life saving medal....this it what could be givin for the CPR stories, but why wouldn't he list them, since he listed everything else he seemed to have done in his career...something just doesn'r seem right with this...
Semper Fi |
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I usually help my candidates redo their resumes, but I call or try to help any Marines I come across while looking over resumes. Even if I do not have something for them I try to help out. He claims to be a Marine, which I think he is, but the rest is BS |
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Banned~CivSAR |
Part of the problem for him is he has a poorly written and compiled Resume. From the wording used...ie "our first mission,...only 6 of us made it through", obviously whether his career is true or false, it's a real mess. Because of this, if he had listed his career with brevity and in an acceptable format, his Resume may not sound so suspect. Ask him where he went to bootcamp, what plt he was in or battalion etc, stuff you'd know as a Marine and get a feel from there.
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