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One little amendment that wasn't too advertised in the Defense Appropriations Bill that was signed yesterday deals with "FERS Flu". This was the phenomenom of people getting ready to retire being sick frequently to burn their sick leave. This amendment changed the way sick leave is counted unders FERS. Before yesterday, sick leave was not counted towards Time in Service for retirement. For example, at retirement if you have 1000 hours of sick leave, those hours get added to your time for time in service. From now until 1 January 2014, those hours will be computed at 50%, after 1 January 2014, the hours will be counted at 100%.

Also in the bill, Military service members will get a 3.9% COLA Jan 1, 2010.
 
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I never want to get sick again!

I like!

over the next twenty, I would like to save up 1-2 or so months worth....maybe more.
 
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Hey Rob,

Just as a quick reference, I have about 810 hours on the books right now, and I went over 14 years of service in July. I have called in occasionally, and have used some for Rob's surgeries. Its not hard to let it build up, just dont wake up on a sunny friday and decide to head to the beach.
 
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wow...that is a lot of days! about a hundred days right?
 
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additionally...from federaltimes.com

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President Barack Obama signed the Defense authorization bill into law Wednesday afternoon, marking the eventual end to the controversial National Security Personnel System.

HR 2647 phases out the NSPS pay-for-performance system by Jan 1, 2012, and the Pentagon has six months from Wednesday to start transferring employees over to their original pay system. For many employees, that means a return to the General Schedule.

The bill also contains a number of provisions long anticipated by federal employees:

•Federal Employment Retirement System (FERS) employees will be able to count unused sick leave toward their years of service, just as Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) employees can. This may end the epidemic of “FERS flu,” where soon-to-retire employees burn off sick leave because they couldn’t receive credit for it.
•FERS employees returning to work for the federal government would be able to redeposit their annuities.
•CSRS employees who work part time at the end of their careers would be able to have their annuities recalculated to be based only on their full-time salaries.
•Retirees returning to work for the federal government would be able to collect their full salaries while drawing their annuities. Agencies used to be able to pay rehired annuitants a full salary only if they obtained a waiver from the Office of Personnel Management.
•Federal employees in Alaska, Hawaii and U.S. territories will now receive locality pay instead of cost of living. Employees in the continental U.S. receive locality pay.


I was under NSBS.....no longer...

JD, what do you think about NSPS going away?
 
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in '97, when i ret from fed civ serv, the rule was if you abused sick lv over a period of a month you were issued a 'verbal warning'...the 2nd month was given a 'written warning'....the 3rd TERMINATION.

sooooo at 89 days before retirement you started your 'CYCLE'... Big Grin Big Grin
 
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I am finally back up to about 700 hours plus I roll over 240 annual a year. I donated a week to a sick Agent this year and still have 80 hrs of use or lose... That's after two surgeries. I am glad to see this as the last year before the FERS guys retire, is kinda lonely... They get this *COUGH* 'N stuff.. Big Grin
 
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Im waiting on the Army to provide LESs' to me to buy back my active duty mob time as well as the 3 mos ADT time.

Army is slow....DFAS Cleveland for the loss....

When all said and done, I will buy back about 8 yrs 3 mos towards a fed retirement.
 
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Or even better, I sold back my sick leave for $.40 on the dollar and got a check for over $27,000 after taxes after I retired back in August.
 
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where did you retire from?

how many hours was that?...since I dont feel like deriving the answer.

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I retired from the USDOT under the CSRS. They counted my unused sick leave toward my longevity only in monthly increments. That is, they didn't count it to the day, only by the month. My Human Resources adviser consuled me on how many "sick" days would be discounted before my retirement date. Wink

The Feds were a lot more up front than a civilian company I worked for. When I worked for McDonnell-Douglas Aircraft, they wouldn't tell you how much sick leave was tolerated. "If you're sick, take the day off" was the mantra. Kind of eliminates the temptation to game sick days. Yet I'm sure there was a management tolerance point for "red days" (days not worked - sick days). Big Grin

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I have used alot due to the VA physical therapy I have received...sux, but ah well.

hehe I have heard of "mental health days".
 
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It was over 1600 hours of SL, and I retired after 25 years as a federal employee.
 
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BUMP for JD!
 
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It won't be long and they will have a Union

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huh?
 
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Originally posted by rlbond:
It won't be long and they will have a Union

Gunny B


The Federal Government is unionized now. The Legislative Branch was allowed to unionize in 1995 due to the Congressional Accountability Act. The Congressional Accountability Act (CAA), enacted in 1995, was one of the first pieces of legislation passed by the 104th Congress. The CAA applies twelve civil rights, labor, and workplace safety and health laws to the U.S. Congress and its associated agencies, requiring them to follow many of the same employment and workplace safety laws applied to businesses and the Federal Government. The CAA also established a dispute resolution procedure that emphasizes counseling and mediation for the resolution of disputes.
 
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So that explains the unconditional pay raises, and the longer they are there the less they even seem to move.
 
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Is there a mandatory retirement age for Federal Employees? Just curious.
 
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Originally posted by ErichG2:
Is there a mandatory retirement age for Federal Employees? Just curious.


People who fall under the 5(c) retirement, Law Enforcement, Fire Fighters and Air Traffic Control have to retire at age 57.
 
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