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I think there are some things that need to be made clear on this issue and the biggest one is that porn is NOT being prohibited from military members who want it. The ban merely means that AAFES won't be selling it anymore. Now while some ask what's the differance, here it is. All magazines and books and everything else that is sold by AAFES is funded by the taxpayer. The idea is while its nice that the taxpayer is providing all of this good stuff, why should they be forced to pay for something that is so degrading not just to women but to women and men both. Any military member who wants to have that stuff can order it online or buy it at any party store with their own money. The American taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for things like that. Not to mention the fact that besides being as addictive as gambling or alcohol, not saying that everyone who does those things are addicts, the majority of pedofiles and rapists in our prison systems were none to be serious addicts to pornography. The issue must be clearly represented and understood that porn isnt' being banned from servicemen, they just have to pay for it themselves and not the taxpayer.
 
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These men and women need all the help enduring separation from family and friends. They are putting thier lives on the line for us. It is wrong to ban porn. We are not the morals police.
 
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I really don't understand why we're wasting time and energy on banning magazines on military bases. Those in congress who complain about it, please..I'm sure that they're doing things equivalent that are just as 'demeaning'. Why aren't we concentrating our energy on those who have come back from Iraq and Afganistan who need a job or counseling after what they've witnessed. medical care issues, mental health issues. Magazines?? We should really be ashamed. As far as porn contributing to the increase sex crimes/assaults on base, that's a joke. Lets look at the individuals who recruit these individuals. I once hear a recruiter say, "We are who we recruit." If you're gonna lower the standards to get 'em in, then don't complain about the crimes that they commit once they're in the uniforms. The recruiters have heavy burdens to hit the numbers, and they're just doing what they have to do. So take responsibility and address the issues that are of greater concern.
 
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The military needs to grow up
What year is it? 1885? Come on. And do you really think a pedofile likes porn magazines . Then you dont understand about them eather. And its not degradging women. All of them have done this out of free will. And a porn magazine is not like Playboy or Hustler they are sex magazine. Porn magazines are those that you buy in a sex shop. Im from Europe and Ive been living in the States for 7 years and its time we all grow up. Its a part of our lives. Magazines or not people who are addicted to porn will stay addicted. That like saying that lyrics of a song will make people kill. And that is totally not true. And taxpayer? Its taxfree on post . Again GROW UP!!!
 
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I'm against the ban of porn. You fellas need something to look at. You get deployed for many months, some of you a year at a time and what do you think these guys want to look at? They have nothing else to do in their spare time. I see nothing wrong with porn. I think it keeps them from losing their freaking minds!!
 
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I'm against the ban of porn. You fellas need something to look at. You get deployed for many months, some of you a year at a time and what do you think these guys want to look at? They have nothing else to do in their spare time. I see nothing wrong with porn. I think it keeps them from losing their freaking minds!!
Porn, use it everyday!
 
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Don't the elected officials of this great country of ours have better things to waste our tax money on than whether or not porn is bad for the military? Give me a break. Give the military members whatever they need to complete the mission at hand or bring them home. If they want porn bring over by the ship load. How much money was spent on this biased report that will only please the religious lunatics? Porn, alcohol, and smoking may not be liked or condoned by all but last time I checked we still have the right to choose in this country. How about the politicians of this country try to do something that matters to the people like close the boarder or stop giving tax brakes to companies when they ship more jobs over seas? I guess that would be to much to ask or they might offend some of the illegals who have more rights than Americans
 
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I think there are some things that need to be made clear on this issue and the biggest one is that porn is NOT being prohibited from military members who want it. The ban merely means that AAFES won't be selling it anymore. Now while some ask what's the differance, here it is. All magazines and books and everything else that is sold by AAFES is funded by the taxpayer. The idea is while its nice that the taxpayer is providing all of this good stuff, why should they be forced to pay for something that is so degrading not just to women but to women and men both. Any military member who wants to have that stuff can order it online or buy it at any party store with their own money. The American taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for things like that. Not to mention the fact that besides being as addictive as gambling or alcohol, not saying that everyone who does those things are addicts, the majority of pedofiles and rapists in our prison systems were none to be serious addicts to pornography. The issue must be clearly represented and understood that porn isnt' being banned from servicemen, they just have to pay for it themselves and not the taxpayer.


Have you read General Order 1 here in Iraq (I suppose it applies to all Islamic nations as well) which clearly says No porn, alcohol or sex outside of marriage? I don't mean to be talking about apples and oranges but the PX and CENTCOM have a different chain of command. What a way to run a war? Roll Eyes
 
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AFFES is a non-appropriated fund instrumentality (NAFI) of the Department of Defense, AAFES funds 98% of its operating budget, including Civilian employee salaries, inventory investments, utilities and capital investments for equipment, vehicles and facilities, from the sale of merchandise, food and services to customers.

The only congressionally appropriated money spent in AAFES comes in the form of utilities and transportation of merchandise to overseas exchanges and for salaries of U.S. military personnel assigned to AAFES.

From the earnings of AFFES comes MWR, gyms. sport complexes, the stores built. AFFES is yours, you fund the Armed Forces Exchange System. Active and retired personnel of the military forces fund the Exchange system. Congress does not appropriate any budget( other than the 2% above). From the very first store when this country was new till now. We own AFFES, Soldier, Marine, Airmen and Sailors. Yes, the same is true for NEXCOM; Navy Exchange System!

Matters not to me whether the exchange service sells porn. But do not believe for a minute that is because the sale of these magazines is about moral decay of our troops; or that the “tax payers” are demanding the change. Someone on the Hill or close to it has found a cause that will make a loud noise to further their own agenda.

In 1969 a female House Representative visited a few places in-country. She said she was appalled at the underage drinking in Vietnam. A month later we had to be 21 to purchase beer or liquor, (when you could get near a Class Six store, also run by the exchange system); no one in Vietnam gave a damn about her opinion.

Again knowledge is power.
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I don't see what the point of looking at porn magazine is. There are a lot better ways of spending your time like watching America's Got Talent. This is a wholesome way of spending your time and you won't feel guilty.
 
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I think there are some things that need to be made clear on this issue and the biggest one is that porn is NOT being prohibited from military members who want it. The ban merely means that AAFES won't be selling it anymore. Now while some ask what's the differance, here it is. All magazines and books and everything else that is sold by AAFES is funded by the taxpayer. The idea is while its nice that the taxpayer is providing all of this good stuff, why should they be forced to pay for something that is so degrading not just to women but to women and men both. Any military member who wants to have that stuff can order it online or buy it at any party store with their own money. The American taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for things like that. Not to mention the fact that besides being as addictive as gambling or alcohol, not saying that everyone who does those things are addicts, the majority of pedofiles and rapists in our prison systems were none to be serious addicts to pornography. The issue must be clearly represented and understood that porn isnt' being banned from servicemen, they just have to pay for it themselves and not the taxpayer.
 
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Question? What organization give's the right to put military bugs in a person? Espaecialy if that person is not in the military.I did not sign any wavers ,and very upset about having this dam device that i don't need . answers
 
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