RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,189172,00.html

It isn't the sensible vets this thing is about.

Since the day he was elected the current CinC has taken a barrage of largely unfounded criticism and derogation on this site that would have be stomped upon by moderators a few short months ago.

Call it good natured griping if you will, but most vets have a facility the run-of-the-mill leftist street-radical doesn't necessarily have - training, and in some cases high proficiency, in using arms. Not to mention a mindset indoctrinated to 'eliminate' the designated 'enemies' of the country.

There is every liklihood that somebody(-ies) could 'snap'.

In the security groupspeak - "You've got nothing to fear if you're a 'good' vet".

popsiq second paragraph pretty much said it all, what is up mil.com??

Something this "report" doesn't mention, (nor will any of the right-wingnuts mention by the way) is that a similar report was written during the 1990's, claiming; "Prominent leftwing groups within the animal rights, environmental, and anarchist extremist movements that promote or have conducted criminal or terrorist activities."

These reports are like battle plans... there are MANY of them generated by whatever party is in power, for any number of radical threats posed or thought to be posing a potential threat to the U.S.

It is nonsense to build it into an "Us vs. Them" mentality and frankly it is ignorant to accept the premise that Veterans are anymore of a threat to the future of this nation than are weekend wannabee-militia members.

But it is a good tool to use to bash this President, and so for the next few days that is exactly what it will encourage.

I am not the least bit surprised by any of the verbage in the report. I have heard all of this before. But it was from from family, friends, and "educated and enlightened" members of society.
It is how a segment of the population views the armed forces and those who serve therein. They believe it consists of the illiterate, uneducated, bigoted, and never-do-wells. The fact is, is that it consists of a cross section of society as do most American workplaces.
So, I am not offended or insulted; I know what I am and what I am not, same as many of those I was privileged to serve with. I am even a little impressed that DHS published how their upper's really feel,instead is whispering about it at cocktail party.

Semper Paratus,

GMC Rob Stern USCG (Ret)

Why should we be surprised about this, have you folks been dreaming? Since the days of Vietnam- the hippie/druggie generation looked down on the military as baby killers, vermin, etc. Now these folks have raised the "Me first" generation alcohol & drugs are still good, not as pushy on demonstarting and it's all about me- their answer to the military is that is a job for those who can't hack it in the civilian world and or is populated by minorities looking to get a leg up! This is not about the CinC except maybe for his choices in people to run things- it's about a liberal mindset of " dogs & soldiers keep off the grass, or Soldiers need not apply!" In the 70's-80's these idiots were worried we would join leftists groups for the money, now it's right wingers. The problem is these idoits see the anger of some groups against what in going on in gov't but don't see a problem within the gov't with immigration, employment, bail-outs, or whatever is angering folks! Like Kiping said- paraphased No one wants a solider around untill they need a soldier, then they are are bosom pals!

First I'll add the link to a previous mil.com discussion on this topic.

http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/672198221...022001#1660037022001

Then simply add: Many poeple that happen to be vets that might be affiliated with extremist groups aren't there by accident. They were loosely affiliated before hand or groomed by these groups to gain training in the military. Street gangs are doing the same thing.

Let's see...the un-named civil rights organization wouldn't be the racist (against Anglo-Americans) Southern Poverty Law Center; could it????

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Let's see...the un-named civil rights organization wouldn't be the racist (against Anglo-Americans) Southern Poverty Law Center; could it????

You mean the same SPLC that was instituted by - and is (still to this day) run by southern white men(both of whom I believe are Jewish)?

So your comment means that you have a chubby for Blacks, or Jews ... or just anyone not white, correct?

You All better wake up. The day is going to come when vets will not be allowed within a certain disctance of the US Capital, White house etc... These paranoid freaks think all vets are bad, they think all members of the military are trained bloos thirsty baby killers etc... they always have and they always will, the problem now is that they are the ones in control and they are issuing crap like this. Sounds kinda like Joe McCarthy in a different era to me

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Originally posted by znut:
You All better wake up. The day is going to come when vets will not be allowed within a certain disctance of the US Capital, White house etc... These paranoid freaks think all vets are bad, they think all members of the military are trained bloos thirsty baby killers etc... they always have and they always will, the problem now is that they are the ones in control and they are issuing crap like this. Sounds kinda like Joe McCarthy in a different era to me

Misplaced right wingnut paranoia is what this is. Wholly unrealistic--this is purely slippery slope logic wrapped up in unfounded hysteria. Such a day will never come so get over yourself. However, I will point out the facts arising from the NSA's illegal tapping of phones that targeted specific people and groups whose sole crime was to be against the Bush administration. Nuff said.

misplaced paranoia. the DHS report is actually in part based on an FBI investigation from 2001-2008 on white supremacist recruitment efforts. This report was largely compiled under the last administration and presented in the current context. this is a manufactured outrage, and i will not be a part of it. DHS is one of the top employers of veterans in this country. this is a non-issue.

Brothers-at-arms, a good place to start is http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/ WHERE DO YOU STAND?

I stand with The U.S. Constitution, and I find the "Oath Keepers" to be in opposition to that document.

Now as far as this article goes, it is plain that nobody really cares and very few even understand what he said. But considering that this piece has been posted now for 5 continuous days while there are only #11 responses to it?

Time to move on...

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Originally posted by popsiq:
RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,189172,00.html

In the security groupspeak - "You've got nothing to fear if you're a 'good' vet".

Please define "good vet".

Here's the report: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=490506

"Good vet"
"Good Pro Lifer"
"Good 2nd Amendment supporter"
"Good Christian"
"Good Jew"
"Good Conservative"
"Good anti-illegal immigrationist"


It seems the Napolitano DHS report imprints the attibutes of their own far left extremists on the political opposition it wishes to squash.

Funny how this opinion article was posted yesterday and it took me til now to get into it and I only find 14 posts.

I wonder if DHS was doing a DOS attack on this link?
(How is that for a conspiracy theory?)

http://www.infowars.com/alan-keys-government-will-stage...declare-martial-law/

All they want is a provocation. In this case if you still in the Army, will you shoot your mother and father, brother and sister? No wander, Obama wants to create his new army but, we are better trained, coming from hell from Iraq and Afghanistan. He, Obama don't trust vets. With Janet Napolitano saying that we are the extremist I can imagine what's next. I don't take this scumbag excuses after she vomit on my face.

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Originally posted by Bill_Fold:

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Let's see...the un-named civil rights organization wouldn't be the racist (against Anglo-Americans) Southern Poverty Law Center; could it????

You mean the same SPLC that was instituted by - and is (still to this day) run by southern white men(both of whom I believe are Jewish)?

So your comment means that you have a chubby for Blacks, or Jews ... or just anyone not white, correct?

No, what I mean is that the SPLC identifies any type of Anglo pride as a racist right-wing group.

The DHS report is right on the money. What needs to be added to the report is the effect rightwing hate media has on rightwing domestic violence.

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Originally posted by tubeboob:
The DHS report is right on the money. What needs to be added to the report is the effect rightwing hate media has on rightwing domestic violence.

Is there such a category as "right-wing domestice violence?"

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Originally posted by tubeboob:
The DHS report is right on the money. What needs to be added to the report is the effect rightwing hate media has on rightwing domestic violence.

Please explain tubeboob.