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Basic Training |
This is not a joke. I am submitting this to my Congressional representatives and am actively seeking to forge a federal referendum.
My solution to rampant, run-away illegal immigration is foolproof and faultless: MANDATORY FIVE-YEAR ENLISTMENT IN THE ACTIVE-DUTY UNITED STATES MILITARY FOR ANY AND ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, AND UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS Here are the immediate and incontestable benefits of my plan: * The Democrats get the millions of cheap votes they want. * The National Guard can come home immediately and PROTECT AMERICA'S SHORES the way it was founded and chartered to do. * The corporations can put the illegals wives and kids to work for cheap wages with an iron-clad work visa that is date-stamped with the illegal family head's first day of military enlistment - which expires the instant the illegal breaks the military obligation contract and the entire family is immediately shipped back to whereever they came from. * The economy stays vital with the influx of spending from the military wages, TAXES and the LEGAL employment of the family. Plus the infusion of the billions currently being wasted on pretend immigration enforcement scams. And when the illegal finishes the five-year military enlistment, there's a nice reconstruction job waiting for him with Halliburton. * The military gets the manpower boost that the Republicans (and included chicken-hawks) claim is needed. * The military gets millions of "hard-working, selfless, dedicated workers" as the amnesty-supporters love to call them. * The crime rate in America plummets by subjecting the illegals to the military's Uniform Code of Military Justice instead of open-ended appeals soap operas. * Local, city and state police organizations can stop wasting money on futile coyote-raids and focus more on active community law enforcement. * If the parent illegal is still serving within their five-year obligation when their children turn 18, the children must enter a mandatory five-year enlistment, as well. This will further strengthen this country's defense against terrorism. * The Defense Department puts an immediate end to its recruitment deficiencies. America gets a whole new crop of disciplined, honorable, dedicated-to-service, team-oriented CITIZENS. RESTRICTIONS * All illegals must be enlisted, involuntarily, into the active-duty Army, Marines, Air Force or Navy. Under no circumstances are waivers, deferments or selection of service in the National Guard, Reserves or Coast Guard permitted. REQUIREMENTS * Age 18 or older. * Entry into (and/or pre-existing presence within( the United States of America, and its territories, in anything other than a completely legal, valid and PROPERLY, LEGALLY documented manner; or the spouse and/or offspring of said individual currently in or entering the United States of America, and its territories, over the age of 18. * Non-catatonic physical state of health. * Minimum functionally literate IQ score, non-lingually based. * Minimum passing score on U.S. Department of Defense Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) tests. * All physical requirements for military service for illegal aliens are waived in deference to the individual's proven ability to run, swim, hike, climb and otherwise convey themselves physically while entering the United States illegally. There's just no downside to this plan. I challenge and urge everyone to support THIS VERSION of immigration reform and not the blatant AMNESTY program the Congress and the president are trying to foist on the American people. Thanks. --------- Gary St. Lawrence SGT (ETS), U.S. Army 1981-1989 "In the beginning of change, the patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." − Mark Twain |
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Basic Training |
OOOOOOORAH!!!! Sarge ya got my vote
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Basic Training |
You can't be serious. I think that you need to think about it. "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the pig." - Heinlein |
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Basic Training |
I'm completely serious.
Try living in Arizona for a while. You'll be fed up with these entitlement-expecting, thieving, cheating, do-nothing/expect-everything lowlifes too. |
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Basic Training |
Damn, Sgt, I don't think I would trust a military like that to do anything but get our but kicked, don't you think?
Arizona? I bet there are as many illegals in Wisconsin, maybe more. I saw some farmers out in California on FOX saying that they lost their onion crop the last couple years, cost them almost 1/2 a million bucks because they couldn't find enough help. He tried bringing workers in from Taiwan, for cripes sake. Said they were a total failure. He said he would love to find American workers, but even paying top dollar, ( he mentioned the chance to make 20 bucks an hour) he couldn't get his crop harvested, and it rotted in the field. Our unemployment rate is at close to historic lows, it isn't surprising that they need farm workers.
LOL, sounds like some guys I know talking about "kids these days" thanks for the laugh! "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the pig." - Heinlein |
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Basic Training |
I agree with the rules youe have listed for illegal and undocumented individuals. However, as a legal US resident/military spouse, at 29 I was told I'm too old to join active duty unless I had a degree which I am currently working on. I'm also fitter than most girls my age which I thought in the US military would be a huge plus.My visa is less than 2 years old and because of this, the military don't let you join. Believe me, even legal immigrants have tried to serve this country. I'm proud to be an adopted american!
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I live in Texas and believe me I know what you mean! |
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Basic Training |
i thought hitler was dead. |
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Basic Training |
hmmmmm. you don't say. why are we in iraq right now? oh, that's right. to defend the defenseless, some of whom have left their country in droves in search of physical safety and the basic civil comforts to which each man, woman, and child is inherently entitled. our involvement has everything to do with providing succor and solace to those "poor iraqis," and nothing at all to do with oil. so let's make hypocrites of ourselves when a bunch of dirty, impoverished wetbacks "...run, swim, hike, climb and otherwise convey themselves physically while entering the United States illegally..." because all mexicans are a bunch of drug-smuggling misanthropes who want only to take advantage of the great social programs our country has to offer. i think our country should enact a law which prohibits stupid people from breeding, and you should be the first in line. oh wait. there i go being politically correct. again. |
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Basic Training |
And a big, fluffy, pink Kum-Bai-Yah to you, too.
You can't tell me that you're gullible, stupid, naive and media spoon-fed enough to BELIEVE that pathetic, bleeding-heart crap you spewed about why U.S. forces are in Iraq! Are the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus serving as platoon leaders, too? Providing "basic civil comforts to which each man, woman, and child is inherently entitled" is *NOT* the responsibility of America or the U.S. Armed Forces. And *IF* our troops were there to provide such comforts, I think even YOU would have to come out of Lala Land long enough to realize and recognize that if THAT were the Bush mission (we'll set aside the other 231 fake reasons Busho-Cheneyburton gave us that have all been proven to be lies), WE'VE FAILED MISERABLY! Life, living conditions and those human comforts you're cheerleading are exponentially WORSE now than when this "weeks-not-months cakewalk" was started four-plus years ago. And yet, somehow, Halliburton, Unocal and all the other Bush-base contractors in Iraq just miraculously seem to be raking in enormous fees, not counting what they embezzle, defraud and outright steal off the top. And you have the blind, partisan ignorance to claim that our troops are there in a welfare office mass hand-out capacity? You insult the troops, you insult veterans and you just plain are making an *** of yourself. |
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Basic Training |
No. He's alive and well in the White House. Think about it: A petty, incompetent, ineffectual, pathetic failure who rose to the highest power in the land via a campaign of lies, deceit, misuse of the military, and a staff of uni-minded, world-dominating elitist advisors. |
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Basic Training |
Leave it to Faux News to find the ONE FARMER in the entire country who can't find any cheap, under-the-table labor. Unless, of course, Fox paid the farmer to let them portray him in that regard, just to further the all-things-Bush "fair and balanced" agenda.
Yeah. It's friggin' hilarious. Funny thing about your neo-con lemming-sheep: You actually think that by making fun of or denying the stereotype, that it disproves the stereotype. Kind of like someone saying that all neo-cons are pig-ignorant, spoon-fed morons who listen to Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly and Rove every day so they can be told what their opinion for that day is. |
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you're quick on the uptake. my entire post was a tribute to sarcasm. but good on ya for cottoning on so quickly. now go peel some paint off a wall to satisfy your hunger. |
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Suspended Indefinitely. 10 June 2008. |
http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/petitions.php
go sign petition. sign up : www.numberusa.com send faxes against immigration for free write congressman and senators www.congress.com Hertitage foundation shows giving even the 12 million est illegals amnesty will throw our social security in the minus by 3.6 trillion dollars. And this amnesty bill in the senate is going to cost tax payers at least 2.6 trillion dollars. And it will even make tax payers pay There Legal bills to get amnesty |
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I know there is a way you can still join the military because I have heard of foreigners joining up & then getting citizenship while they were in. I'll check on it to find out for sure. |
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suspended TMC_SW_RET |
I must have missed what happens to all those that can not meet the requirements. Did I miss the requirement for English?
There was a picture, of over 160 enlisted men taking the oath who where not citizens, in the LA Times. I think we should inforce the laws we have about Federal and State income taxes, fraud (bad SSNs) etc. Fix the boarder and start rounding them up. |
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Basic Training |
Try coming to the Chicken Capital of the world. You can't go anywhere without running into mobs of mexican immigrants. You have to speak fluent spanish just to get a job because most of the customers you will more than likely deal with are spanish speaking. It is annoying.
Two years ago, in my freshman year of high school, there were all those protests from the illegal immigrants. Where I live, it became known that on the day of one of the protests, the maxicans would not come to school. On that day, I was actually ably to get to my class on time because there was hardly anyone in the halls. Plus for one day out of possibly the whole year we had no fights. NONE. This should tell you something. Especially since the school of which I attended made it on the major state news channels and the front page of the newspapers for having 36 fights in one day. I got an email from someone having a good but joking way to solve the problems of the US. The email said: All everyone talks about is the problems of America. Hurricane Katrina, Illegal immigration, and the alligator attacks in Florida. Well I like to focus on the solutions of these problems. Build a moat at the border of Mexico and the United States, Take the dirt that was dug out and send it to New Orleans so they can build the levees higher, Take the alligators from FLorida and put them in the moat on the border. See, now I have fixed all of our problems. The levves in New Orleans are built higher, there are no more alligator attacks in Florida, and the immigrants will be to scared to cross the border. |
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How about we give them the choice of enlistment or deportation? While we are at it, why not allow folks from countries other than Mexico to enlist at the American embassy into our armed forces? The down side is we cannot give them security clearances. They would be clerks (spelling is necessary), cooks, drivers, and perform a lot of support functions. Some would get to be trigger pullers in the USMC and the US Army and there would soon be a disproportionate number non-citizens wounded and KIA that would need to be cared for by the VA or receive survivor benefits. Taken to its logical conclusion, a lot of the survivors would move back to their country of origin along with the hard earned benefits and there would be an outcry from the public of “foul.” You see, there is “a down side” to letting others do your work. You will not get the job done quite the way you might want it because of communication barriers and a host of other problems to numerous to mention. Keep the standards high and the caliber of work product stays high. If they really wanted to join the armed services, why didn’t they do it in their native country? This message has been edited. Last edited by: JOgershok, |
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Basic Training |
I appreciate your efforts Gary. The main problem is that we already have thousands of non-citizens in the military. The majority of them associated with organized crime gangs. It is free military training and carte blanche citizenship. Your plan also grants citizenship to hundreds of thousands if not millions of family members. Do you think that your plan would go far in our courts? Imagine the lawsuits as so many are unqualified to serve. I'm sorry pal, these people are nothing less than criminals, infiltrating invaders. The only solution is to place a bounty on them and their supporters. Iwager that we could have this country cleaned up in less than a season. If they fight, so much the better. We have a soveriegn right. Keep up your efforts Gary, just be more realistic.
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Hell No! We are a professional, all volunteer military. We will not return to the days of "join the service or go to jail" (or in this case "get deported").
Nothing is "foolproof and faultless". To say so is narcissistic and self righteous. Nothing is uncontestable. |
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