How many other Females who are dual military are the one who is expected to get out of the military because they have no FCP?

I am pretty sure most military bases have daycare.

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Originally posted by staacey_chandler:
How many other Females who are dual military are the one who is expected to get out of the military because they have no FCP?

If you are not responsible enough to get a family care plan you are not responsible enough to be trusted with a weapon. Gender doesn't matter.

If it is your husband who insists that you drop your career, that is between you and your husband.

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Originally posted by LadyCB:
I am pretty sure most military bases have daycare.

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Most do, but they can meet maybe 10% of the demand. They also have very limited hours.

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Originally posted by thorin001:
Most do, but they can meet maybe 10% of the demand. They also have very limited hours.

On bases where demand cannot be met, families are assigned different priority levels -- dual military is at the top.

That of course, does not mean that there will not be a waiting period.

As for their limited hours, I found them mostly accommodating.

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Originally posted by thorin001:

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Originally posted by staacey_chandler:
How many other Females who are dual military are the one who is expected to get out of the military because they have no FCP?

If you are not responsible enough to get a family care plan you are not responsible enough to be trusted with a weapon. Gender doesn't matter.

If it is your husband who insists that you drop your career, that is between you and your husband.

I want to stay in my husband does not. He is active duty but is non-deployable because of his injury. He will spend the rest of his enlistment getting his arm worked on. I was told that I should get out. It is not being irresponsible if I do not have any one trustworthy enough to watch my child if I deploy. I am not going to allow my child to go into a harmful enviroment and be hurt! It is not daycare I worry about it is that I am want to deploy my husband cannot and I was told by an E-6 to get out and then he called a civi! The guy did not even have a combat patch! I mite be guard but I have done my duty and I WANT to go back! I volentered the first time and I volentered again.

By the way my husband has asked me to get out after I had my son. I told him to devorce me or shut the he!! up about me getting out. He shut up.

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Originally posted by staacey_chandler:

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Originally posted by thorin001:

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Originally posted by staacey_chandler:
How many other Females who are dual military are the one who is expected to get out of the military because they have no FCP?

If you are not responsible enough to get a family care plan you are not responsible enough to be trusted with a weapon. Gender doesn't matter.

If it is your husband who insists that you drop your career, that is between you and your husband.

I want to stay in my husband does not. He is active duty but is non-deployable because of his injury. He will spend the rest of his enlistment getting his arm worked on. I was told that I should get out. It is not being irresponsible if I do not have any one trustworthy enough to watch my child if I deploy. I am not going to allow my child to go into a harmful enviroment and be hurt! It is not daycare I worry about it is that I am want to deploy my husband cannot and I was told by an E-6 to get out and then he called a civi! The guy did not even have a combat patch! I mite be guard but I have done my duty and I WANT to go back! I volentered the first time and I volentered again.

There is not an E6 with the power in the service to tell you to get out.

If your husband isn't deployable why can't he care for your child?

He was a guy at JAG. Because tell I am on active orders I am a civi and I should get out because my hubby is active duty. This is what the E-6 told me. I have also been told before I should get out of the army because I have a kid and mothers should be the ones to stay home with the kid. I have been told that I am a bad parent because I am willing to leave my kid for a year so that I can deploy. LOL my husbands last deployment he was a good parent for leaving his kid to go to war. I have the family care plan and my kid squared away I was just wondereing if I was the only female to ever have been treated like **** for NOT wanting to get out of the army and volentering to deploy.

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Originally posted by staacey_chandler:
He was a guy at JAG. Because tell I am on active orders I am a civi and I should get out because my hubby is active duty. This is what the E-6 told me. I have also been told before I should get out of the army because I have a kid and mothers should be the ones to stay home with the kid. I have been told that I am a bad parent because I am willing to leave my kid for a year so that I can deploy. LOL my husbands last deployment he was a good parent for leaving his kid to go to war. I have the family care plan and my kid squared away I was just wondereing if I was the only female to ever have been treated like **** for NOT wanting to get out of the army and volentering to deploy.

I suggest that you smile politely and ignore anything else that E-6 has to say.

You really need to come up with a good family care plan ASAP, but you should not necessarily be the one to stay at home just because of your gender.

If anyone in the military is telling you to get out because you are the mother, should be reported. That is unacceptable. My husband and I have two children and we share the responsibility of our family care plan. No one will dictate that since I am female, that I would have to get out. It's asinine to think that that is still the mindset in some units.

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Originally posted by staacey_chandler:
He was a guy at JAG. Because tell I am on active orders I am a civi and I should get out because my hubby is active duty. This is what the E-6 told me. I have also been told before I should get out of the army because I have a kid and mothers should be the ones to stay home with the kid. I have been told that I am a bad parent because I am willing to leave my kid for a year so that I can deploy. LOL my husbands last deployment he was a good parent for leaving his kid to go to war. I have the family care plan and my kid squared away I was just wondereing if I was the only female to ever have been treated like **** for NOT wanting to get out of the army and volentering to deploy.

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Originally posted by staacey_chandler:
He was a guy at JAG. Because tell I am on active orders I am a civi and I should get out because my hubby is active duty. This is what the E-6 told me.

I've got news for you. You are NOT a "civi", you are a member of the NG. You are either on "active duty" or "reserve duty", but you are not a civi. That JAG dipwad apparently doesn't know sheeps**t from barnpaint, and I would summarily ignore everything else emminating from his cakehole on that basis alone. You should've shown slapnuts your ID and asked him where it said "civi", and then asked him what business he had dispensing legal advice to military members when he doesn't even know whether or not someone is even in the military. Okay, rant mode off. I feel better.

All you have to do is have a valid FCP. Hold your head up, and don't loose any sleep over what you hear.



Talking down on a soldier who wants to maintain her deployability. A**holes.

God, I love this forum!

Family Care Plans are not that big a deal. It is just a package of papers that your command can use in case of an EMERGENCY. (ie..you and your spouse die in a car crash on the way to work and your kids arent with you). It lets the command know that you have thought out the future for your kids if something should happen to you and your spouse. It does not mean that one of you have to get out. It includes a POA as well as a list of people and phone numbers that you want notified in case of emergency. The POA is there to assist whoever you have appointed to take care of your issues for you. Most service members have advance notice on when they will deploy. If you and your spouse will deploy at the same time, you will have plenty of time to take your kids to whoever you are going to leave them with.

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Originally posted by staacey_chandler:
He was a guy at JAG. Because tell I am on active orders I am a civi and I should get out because my hubby is active duty. This is what the E-6 told me. I have also been told before I should get out of the army because I have a kid and mothers should be the ones to stay home with the kid. I have been told that I am a bad parent because I am willing to leave my kid for a year so that I can deploy. LOL my husbands last deployment he was a good parent for leaving his kid to go to war. I have the family care plan and my kid squared away I was just wondereing if I was the only female to ever have been treated like **** for NOT wanting to get out of the army and volentering to deploy.

That is blatant sexual discrimination and harassment and you should take that guy to your Military Equal Opportuntiy office and report him. If you don't, you're telling him you condone that sort of behavior. He will no doubt continue to keep harassing females.

I was a single mom for years, and I deployed twice. It sucked, but I did find somebody from church who took great care of my daughter. (Yes! I go to church, believe it or not.. probably not enough.)
Now I am married to mil, but we are fortunate enough to have a plan. There are services on base designed to help you find a long-term, and short term provider. If they don't help you, I'd go to my First Sgt. and complain until you get results/help. You have that right.

No, you are one of MANY females treated like crap for having kids. Don't let that stupid E-6 ruin your plans and dreams. If you get out, that's income lost. Health benefits for you and your child lost.

Ignore that chauvenistic idiot.

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Originally posted by TheMadOne:Ignore that chauvenistic idiot.

Or hold him accountable for his stupid remarks.

Family Care Plan is a "legality" imposed on the military by congress. THAT is why it's almost impossible to change the program.
I've been mil-to-mil for 19 years, we have a 17 year son. I've had a FCP all these years, and when I became a First Shirt I had to take over the program for my squadron.
It's not a legal document, nobody can MAKE the people on your form take your kids, and the military can't MAKE you leave your kids with the person on it. It's a technicality. I've never USED my plan -- my mother-in-law is 150 years old, and doesn't fit the AF "idea" of a provider. That's where he stays when I deploy though.

Now, if you don't document your plan, as required, it IS grounds for involuntary discharge.

My problem are the ladies who constantly call in saying "johnny is sick, I can't work today" over and over. I always had a "plan B" for those times.

When we were married in 1960, no choice when she got pregnant she had to get out. No options. However, when our daughter got married and then pregnant she stayed in and her husband got out. He has been the best Mr. Mom-dad in the world. Their two daughters are now both college graduates. He was even president of Chief’s wives club in Guam several years ago. His wife, our daughter, is a MCPO at the top of her game. He is the best son-in-law this old soldier could have ever hoped for.