My friend just joined the coast guard reserves, went through MEPS, everything was passed and he was doing final paperwork to go to bootcamp. Recruiter calls and tells him he can't go because of tattoo inside his lip. This was disclosed at MEPs and approved, but recruiter didn't care. Does this really disqualify someone from the military that otherwise is a good candidate?. You can't see it unless he pulls down his lip. Anyone have experience of this kind?
Originally posted by 20562060: My friend just joined the coast guard reserves, went through MEPS, everything was passed and he was doing final paperwork to go to bootcamp. Recruiter calls and tells him he can't go because of tattoo inside his lip. This was disclosed at MEPs and approved, but recruiter didn't care. Does this really disqualify someone from the military that otherwise is a good candidate?. You can't see it unless he pulls down his lip. Anyone have experience of this kind?
Depends on what the tattoo is. My guess is it's something racist, discriminatory, derogatory, sexist, or gang related.
If the tattoo can be seen while wearing the service dress blue uniform, it’s out of regs and unauthorized according to the Coast Guard regs. That can't be covered by the uniform so that would be why "he" got told no.
Originally posted by revrnd: If the tattoo can be seen while wearing the service dress blue uniform, it’s out of regs and unauthorized according to the Coast Guard regs. That can't be covered by the uniform so that would be why "he" got told no.
That's wrong. The CG tattoo regulations are much more in depth and simple than that. Any tattoo on or above the neck is disqualifying. If this person went to MEPS for the Coast Guard, they probably didn't mention the tattoo to the Recruiter.
I am in the navy and I have 3 tattoos. I went through some stuff with them. None of them are bad just my sons and husbands name and a butterfly they are all on my lower back and legs but even with that I had to go through alot to get them approved. I had to get special waivers and everything so I can imagine them giving him a hard time. But to be straight up his recruiter should have told him from the door if he knew about it that it would be a problem. That way at least your friend would have had a heads up about it possibly being an issue.
In my experience in the Navy, that could and would have been waived. Are you sure you're getting the entire story on this? (no offense intended) The reason I am asking is that my son joined the CG and has a "few" tattoos, but mainly he had a scrape with the law at age 15 that would have DQ'ed him, and that was easily waived at MEPS... I just can't see that being the recruiters call in any situation. But then again, everyones situation is different....
I really don't understand this one at all. Downoutlaw maybe you could expound on the regs a little bit? I've been an instructor at Corry Station for 3 years now and I have a full sleeve of my own so I'm familiar with Navy regs as far as tattoo's are concerned. I can't honestly see how that is disqualifying(by Navy standards, of course). Our regs state no tattoos on the head/face/neck/scalp, can't be visible while in uniform, and cannot be prejudicial to good order and discipline. And even then they're still waiverable provided they don't support supremacy groups etc. etc. Hmm....
I'll try to clarify the reasoning. The Coast Guard is different from the other military services because (one of the reasons, anyway) we are also a Federal Law Enforcement organization. That's the biggest reason why we're in the DHS rather than DOD. That means we deal with the public a bit more as we enforce laws. The Coast Guard realizes that social trends are changing, but it doesn't really believe that we should bend to social trends and give up our gravitas as a respected Law Enforcement organization. We actually eased our tattoo regulations significantly. Without getting into detail, no tattoo is allowed on the hands, head, or neck. Since the lip is attached to the head, it's disqualifying. Also, any tattoo that is not following with the core values (honor, respect, devotion to duty) are disqualifying. So, it may be allowable or waiverable in other services, but there is no such thing as a tattoo waiver in the Coast Guard.
Whether it's visible while in uniform is immaterial to our regs. The location and ocntent is what's important.
I thought it was awesome that the Coast Guard was finally becoming more lenient when it comes to tattoos by eliminating the 25 percent rule and allowing full sleeves. Seems sort of odd that they will now allow full sleeves but not a lip tattoo which is practically hidden. As for this will probably hinder my enlistment, I didn't take my lip tattoo into a factor that would DQ me from meps. I guess when there are giant leaps forward there are still steps backwards.
I dunno about other policies but the marines and army are tightening policies as well. Right now regs in the army are nothing past the wrist and nothing above the neck. The army is also starting to downsize its force due to the closeout of iraq coming up. They are going to stop giving as man waivers and also start kicking people out with bad records and start up the Quality management program again.
I have a total of 9 tattoos. None of them are visable or offensive. I just started the process for the CG. My only concern is the amount of tattoos I have. My recruiter is looking into it. also a concern is that I have a nautical star on the back of each arm probably 1.3 inches above my elbow, will work sleeves cover this, or am I more than likely dq'd. Hopefully My BS degree in Criminal Justice and 123 credits will have something to do with their selection process and I will get called for an interview. I really hope they do not base my character and desire to be in the coast guard on my tatts