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CG Forums Moderator Aude et Effice!  |
The below article indicates similiar issues with regard to C4I installs and TEMPEST may exist with the NSC like they did with the 123 project.
Coastie Cutters Got Leaky Networks "The emergence of seemingly identical problems with the larger NSCs indicates that the 123s' issues weren't isolated. Lockheed Martin's work on Deepwater electronics appears to be fundamentally flawed. This comes as no surprise to DeKort, who says that some of the same engineers worked on both the 123s and the NSCs." The silver lining is that this shows is that the current USCG leadership is not rolling over for the contractors and is holding their feet to the fire to fix their discrepancies. |
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http://www.spawar.navy.mil/fleet/insurv/files/schedule/1stqtr08.htm
According to the website above, the Navy's INSURV group is to attend the tentative trials for NSC #1 in February 2008. The Commandant is playing the honest broker and following through with the right plan. The question is will the contractors foil his plan? |
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CG Forums Moderator Aude et Effice! |
Actually KeepingUpWithJones, INSURV handles the material side of the house during Acceptance/Final Contract Trials. They would not be involved in certification/acceptance of a ship's Combat Systems or C4I suites, usually that is conducted by NAVSEA in Port Hueneme for PACFLT ships.
I agree with your premise regarding INSURV though as it bodes well for the USCG to take full advantage of their expertise and exacting standards they will hold the contractors to. I, myself am on record here as advocating their complete involvement. |
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Well, 1110 it seems the original story has a follow up. It was posted in Aviation Weekly.
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=new...eaks&channel=defense The Coast Guard said the design issues are being worked out by Lockheed. |
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CG Forums Moderator Aude et Effice! |
Yes indeed, it appears the USCG is keeping ahead of Lockheed in this case.
You seem to be very well versed on these Deepwater issues. I sent out a big Deepwater Truths salute to my friend and comrade in arms KeepingUpWithJones! |
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1110, well the Coast Guard may be hampered by its own organizational culture whereas the sole victor uncannily is Lockheed, who ultimately has its own interests to satisfy. Again, that means if the Coast Guard is that hapless due to internal and external politics (i.e., lobbyists?). Just my observations based on what I've read online and watched on television. I received an email from somebody on this board a while back that said the Coast Guard has a habit of "eating its young or own" and lacks the
organizational savvy on how to deal with external forces such as Lockheed. We will wait and see, after all the chronological list of events I posted within the last 15 minutes needs to be further completed. I would safely suspect there are more Deepwater events to unfold  This message has been edited. Last edited by: KeepingUpWithJones, |
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Yes indeed, KeepingUpWithJones, there will be many more Deepwater truths to be revealed in the upcoming months.
The good thing is that the USCG Commadant ADM T. Allen appears to be shaking up the organizational culture of the USCG quite a bit. While the old-boys club is dying a slow death, the scope of their influence at least now ends at their keyboards and has been relegated to talking about the weather in Florida or Arizona and making passive-agressive insults at others on internet talk boards who don't share their propensity for groupthink. |
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Since you mentioned Arizona I will assume you meant me. I have no influence on anything that occurs within the CG or on this board. Hell, I was retired as an E-5 over 30 years ago! I'm flattered that you think I could effect anything to do with Deepwater, the CG or this board. Any comments I have made have been to question why certain people seem so determined to seek out only the things that may go/have gone wrong and never any of the positives. I have also pointed out that regurgitating info already known is pretty much a waste of bandwidth. "Old boys club".....well, yeah, I ain't getting any younger!  |
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If you honestly believe there is anyone on here that can has any real influence concerning this or most any other issue discussed on these boards, you need to have your head examined. As for the weather.. it is wonderful... which we have just as much "influence" over...  Wray...  |
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LOL, guess it is easier for some to dish it out than take it. You are right though, at the most it's just some of you merely pretending to be influential, which was my point. 1110...  |
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There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch |
Perhaps you could point out some posts where any of us appeared to be wielding (or claiming to wield) influence on anything. |
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Perhaps I could. Perhaps some of you could also for once make an attempt to point out in my posts where anything I've posted regarding Deepwater is factually incorrect and any of the suggestions I and others have made for improvement will not be the best value for the Coast Guard instead of erecting strawman arguements about our motives, whining about profiles and "real" names, namecalling and otherwise squaking on like a bunch of chickens in a henhouse about some of us who point out the truth of what has happened/been uncovered (and what some almost got away with) and otherwise going after anyone personally who dares come onto this board and mention the questionable behavior/actions of certain contractors who the USCG, NAVSEA, Congress and the DHS OIG all maintain have failed to provide what they were contracted and paid for (and now are the subject of a Department of Justice criminal investigation after refusing to cooperate with the DHS Inspector General's investigation). Wake me up whenever one of you can figure out how to do this. This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1110, |
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Woe unto thee, O ye son of a Philistine, for you will be as welcome as a fart in the queen's bedchamber! |
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And 1110 - let he who is without sin cast the first stone. What is your motivation that you have for posting on a Coast Guard discussion program...? |
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There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch |
Personally I have not accused you of posting anything factually incorrect. How could it be? The majority of what you post are cut and pastes from other sources......which is why I DO point out you are not adding much value by those posts. By all means, let the mental masturbation continue. |
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Then why read and respond at all then? Does someone have a gun to your head and is forcing you to log onto these forums, read and respond to posts that don't fit what you've subjectively determined to be valuable against your will? Given your above admission that you are incapable of debating the subject matter at all, you might just be better off keeping your own counsel. Like I said before...
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Whether I agree or not...that's funny right there. |
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There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch |
Apparently I get your attention often enough that you feel a need to direct comments towards me. I wouldn't want you to get bored, so I'll stick around. You remind me of a college student that has taken a philosophy class and suddenly believes he/she is a philosopher, expounding endlessly with what the individual perceives to be words of wisdom, while everyone else recognizes he/she is merely parroting phrases read in a textbook. Of course we don't really know your opinions, as you continue to regurgitate things written by others rather then stating your own qualifications and presenting something new and insightful. |
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I never said for you to go away or not stick around, rather just suggested that since you've readily admitted that you are unable to dispute any of the facts or suggestions for improvement I (and others) have posted it likely marginalizes you in the eyes of anyone who isn't part of your online social support group, and perhaps your "cause" would be better served by you keeping your own counsel in favor of others who actually can do such.
While we haven't posted anything "new" and "insightful" in your opinion, that doesn't mean it isn't of value to those who have concerns regarding these matters. |
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