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They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.
Do you know what a representative government is?


People chosen by the citizens of the land to make decisions on their behalf & to represent them in the legislative assembly.

I hardly think slipping pork in to a bill in the middle of the night to pass through some agenda of one party that most people would not support falls under that definition.

And that happens from both sides.

If it is all so up front then why not just come out and say it rather than hiding behind all that paper work and organizations?
 
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There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.
Got any verifiable examples?


Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups. Smile
Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.


I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.


"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.


Oh don't be so dramatic.

Unlike you, I know both sides are radical and corrupt.

And yes, how dare they on both sides not be up front with what the real agenda is and hide it under all these organizations.

As for your racist remarks, I don't want to bow down to the left socialist dictator way of life, I don't want to bow down to the right corruption but why don't you all stand up with me, in the middle as an Independent and make both parties be accountable to all the people and not just a one sided party and agenda.



“As for your racist remarks,”

You are making reference to my the super race comment .

I belong to the human race

We all know the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans but below
Angles or maybe in their twisted minds it is between God and Angels or even above God.
Who knows they are so twisted.
 
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The list I posted will take in just about all of us.

We are listed with one or another cause.

I don't see how they could make a list like this?


It is a matter of degree and ones willingness to go over the edge if your are surrounded by right wing extremist it may appear that this list is all inclusive but as evidence by the Nov 08 election this list does not include most good and normal Americans.

Although each of us may have concerns about some these subjects as well as others most Americans are willing to put the good of the nation and their brothers and sisters first.

The character of the right wig extremist s driven by greed and a thrust for money and power. The kind of power that lets them exert their will over others, this is called subjugation. As all right wing extremist through out history have done, they use God as
an excuse to subjugate the people. I am a Christian and believe in God. The criminal agenda the right wing extremist have followed is a perversion of God’s word. There is nothing Christian about it, it is just plane old selfish and hatful.

I do not think that Jesus would approve torture, the raping and subjugation of the middle and lower class, lying and getting hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed.

I do not pretend that I have lived a saintly life I have said and done things that are wrong but I do believe that the folly of the right wing extremist, the hate, the greed, the carnage,
and all their lies will bring server retribution upon them not by the good and decent people of the nation but by God.


How is it you only can find fault in the extreme right? Are you suggesting there is not an extreme left?

Why don't you call out the issues that are on the extreme left?

You don't think greed or corruption can happen on the left?

It was extreme greed and corruption that has put ACORN is question for trying to rig an election and who know how many other times they have done that.

Jeses would not want any type of evil from any one side. But even Jesus told the blind person to believe and do his part. He told those who could not walk, to get up and walk.

Jesus was not about walking around just handing out money to the village that sat around doing nothing feeling sorry for themselves. Jesus was about love and helping one antoerh but also to help yourself, living up to your potential and helping those around you.

This housing market crash started back with Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton carried it on. And Barney Franks and Cris Dogg over sea it.

They put laws into place that force lenders to loan to people who could not afford them and now we are all having to pay for it.

Yes, both sides have good and bad. That is the point to this thread, that list the census was putting together was leaning to one side.



“How is it you only can find fault in the extreme right?”

If you read all my post you will see that I did condemn the extreme left as well as the right.

You will also se where I said that most Americans are not extreme right or left but centrist.
 
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There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.
Got any verifiable examples?


Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups. Smile
Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.


I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.


"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.


Oh don't be so dramatic.

Unlike you, I know both sides are radical and corrupt.

And yes, how dare they on both sides not be up front with what the real agenda is and hide it under all these organizations.

As for your racist remarks, I don't want to bow down to the left socialist dictator way of life, I don't want to bow down to the right corruption but why don't you all stand up with me, in the middle as an Independent and make both parties be accountable to all the people and not just a one sided party and agenda.



“As for your racist remarks,”

You are making reference to my the super race comment .

I belong to the human race

We all know the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans but below
Angles or maybe in their twisted minds it is between God and Angels or even above God.
Who knows they are so twisted.


With talk like that , I would say you belong to a group within a human race that is full of hate and you are being very narrow minded.

We don't all know that the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans. That comment is ugly hateful and racial.

bad bad bad on you.


That would be like me saying all left wing extremist are as full of hate, ugly remarks and racist.

Just because some in a group act bad does not mean all in that party follow that way of thinking.

That is like me saying that just because a few people that worked for ACORN committed fraud must mean all of ACORN is fraudulent.
 
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Sounds like we have to watch out for anyone who has any disagreement with any of the current administrations policies.


Where have we seen this before?

It was BS then, and it is even more BS now. In addition to politicizing basic government functions someone has reneged on his promise to end such practices.
 
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Curse

Next is they will bann the Republican party or any opposition. They will make it illegal to be a conservative. They will bann churches but allow the building of Mosques. They will take our guns but allow criminals to continue and rape us. They will replace the stars and stripes with the Circle of Obama. They will label all Americans as the axis of evil. They will destroy America.

Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And they can take their study and their comments and stick it where the sun dont shine.

Its time to take our country back.

Impeach Obama!


Thanks to the Patriot Act they can.
 
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* Are upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India, and more.



Tell me who here in America that is not upset with the imports and loss of jobs for us?


The Republican Party. It is inline with it's philosophy
And we should believe anything you say why?

Your the one who posted VP Cheney said we were at war with Islam without providing any source/proof/evidence.

Frankly I doubt you have any credibility on that subject or this.


Or any other.
 
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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:
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Originally posted by usa_girl:
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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:
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Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.
Got any verifiable examples?


Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups. Smile
Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.


I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.


"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.


Oh don't be so dramatic.

Unlike you, I know both sides are radical and corrupt.

And yes, how dare they on both sides not be up front with what the real agenda is and hide it under all these organizations.

As for your racist remarks, I don't want to bow down to the left socialist dictator way of life, I don't want to bow down to the right corruption but why don't you all stand up with me, in the middle as an Independent and make both parties be accountable to all the people and not just a one sided party and agenda.



“As for your racist remarks,”

You are making reference to my the super race comment .

I belong to the human race

We all know the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans but below
Angles or maybe in their twisted minds it is between God and Angels or even above God.
Who knows they are so twisted.


With talk like that , I would say you belong to a group within a human race that is full of hate and you are being very narrow minded.

We don't all know that the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans. That comment is ugly hateful and racial.

bad bad bad on you.


That would be like me saying all left wing extremist are as full of hate, ugly remarks and racist.

Just because some in a group act bad does not mean all in that party follow that way of thinking.

That is like me saying that just because a few people that worked for ACORN committed fraud must mean all of ACORN is fraudulent.



"Just because some in a group act bad does not mean all in that party follow that way of thinking."


Like Ted Bundy and George Bush are bad but Ted Haggerty and Oliver North are OK. I see what you are saying like there were some good NAZIES.
 
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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:
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Originally posted by usa_girl:
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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:
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Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.
Got any verifiable examples?


Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups. Smile
Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.


I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.


"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.


Oh don't be so dramatic.

Unlike you, I know both sides are radical and corrupt.

And yes, how dare they on both sides not be up front with what the real agenda is and hide it under all these organizations.

As for your racist remarks, I don't want to bow down to the left socialist dictator way of life, I don't want to bow down to the right corruption but why don't you all stand up with me, in the middle as an Independent and make both parties be accountable to all the people and not just a one sided party and agenda.



“As for your racist remarks,”

You are making reference to my the super race comment .

I belong to the human race

We all know the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans but below
Angles or maybe in their twisted minds it is between God and Angels or even above God.
Who knows they are so twisted.


With talk like that , I would say you belong to a group within a human race that is full of hate and you are being very narrow minded.

We don't all know that the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans. That comment is ugly hateful and racial.

bad bad bad on you.


That would be like me saying all left wing extremist are as full of hate, ugly remarks and racist.

Just because some in a group act bad does not mean all in that party follow that way of thinking.

That is like me saying that just because a few people that worked for ACORN committed fraud must mean all of ACORN is fraudulent.


You are saying that by expressing the truth about the right wing extremist that I am being a racist. So are you saying that the right wing extremist are a seperate race?
 
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a few years, a pack of lies and every thing is peachee keen, that is of course if your a lib Razz
 
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Originally posted by usa_girl:
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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:
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Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.
Got any verifiable examples?


Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups. Smile
Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.


I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.


"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.


Oh don't be so dramatic.

Unlike you, I know both sides are radical and corrupt.

And yes, how dare they on both sides not be up front with what the real agenda is and hide it under all these organizations.

As for your racist remarks, I don't want to bow down to the left socialist dictator way of life, I don't want to bow down to the right corruption but why don't you all stand up with me, in the middle as an Independent and make both parties be accountable to all the people and not just a one sided party and agenda.



“As for your racist remarks,”

You are making reference to my the super race comment .

I belong to the human race

We all know the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans but below
Angles or maybe in their twisted minds it is between God and Angels or even above God.
Who knows they are so twisted.


With talk like that , I would say you belong to a group within a human race that is full of hate and you are being very narrow minded.

We don't all know that the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans. That comment is ugly hateful and racial.

bad bad bad on you.


That would be like me saying all left wing extremist are as full of hate, ugly remarks and racist.

Just because some in a group act bad does not mean all in that party follow that way of thinking.

That is like me saying that just because a few people that worked for ACORN committed fraud must mean all of ACORN is fraudulent.


You are saying that by expressing the truth about the right wing extremist that I am being a racist. So are you saying that the right wing extremist are a seperate race?


6#######

You are either being foolish or a hateful idiot and I can't tell which right now.

Obviously you are just trying to get a rise out of me with your nonsense.

Your so called truth that you think you are expressing is nothing more than hate speech dressed up as a post.

Since you can't express your opinion without all this hate towards one side, I can't take anything you have to say seriously.

You know darn well your post and comments were racist remarks when you suggested that the extreme right was some supreme being, race, that is above all else even God!

You are not funny and that is just down right mean.

But I will forgive you for your awful behavior just as I am sure God would want me to and I know God will forgive all his misguided children on the right and the left for using all he stands for in the wrong way.

You were very bad today 6.
 
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This is not good....not good. Surely the "people" will see clearly that "divided we fall". Compartmentalizing doesn't work for any group of people. We are just simply Americans, and must pull together over our differences for the greater cause. Do you not know that for years it has been said by the enemies of the US that they will: "Give us enough rope to hang ourselves, and take over without firing a shot"; "Infuse the population with drugs, and cause civil strife".

The media is used to cause us to buy into some senario, and we collectively give it power to come into manifestation by believing in it...specifically "fear". Do you really think there is something new "under the sun" that we haven't already had to contend with...but it has to be real (cross bridges when we come to them).

We need to roll up our sleeves and get behind some real challenges to affect some positive, realistic changes.
 
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This is not good....not good. Surely the "people" will see clearly that "divided we fall". Compartmentalizing doesn't work for any group of people. We are just simply Americans, and must pull together over our differences for the greater cause. Do you not know that for years it has been said by the enemies of the US that they will: "Give us enough rope to hang ourselves, and take over without firing a shot"; "Infuse the population with drugs, and cause civil strife".

The media is used to cause us to buy into some senario, and we collectively give it power to come into manifestation by believing in it...specifically "fear". Do you really think there is something new "under the sun" that we haven't already had to contend with...but it has to be real (cross bridges when we come to them).

We need to roll up our sleeves and get behind some real challenges to affect some positive, realistic changes.


I totally agree with you Tower Flower, good reminder and post.
 
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I'll go out on a limb here and state that both sides are without a clue to what the people want anymore.

Not saying any other group has a good idea on what to do to change all the hate and putting each of us in a marked box.

When a small group of people start making all the policy we are in trouble. I think most will agree on that.

My problem with the census is that they are going to put us down as terrorists or haters just by the way we answer a few questions and where we live.

Mark my works folks, this is going to turn bad.
 
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There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.
Got any verifiable examples?


Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups. Smile
Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.


I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.


"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.


Oh don't be so dramatic.

Unlike you, I know both sides are radical and corrupt.

And yes, how dare they on both sides not be up front with what the real agenda is and hide it under all these organizations.

As for your racist remarks, I don't want to bow down to the left socialist dictator way of life, I don't want to bow down to the right corruption but why don't you all stand up with me, in the middle as an Independent and make both parties be accountable to all the people and not just a one sided party and agenda.



“As for your racist remarks,”

You are making reference to my the super race comment .

I belong to the human race

We all know the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans but below
Angles or maybe in their twisted minds it is between God and Angels or even above God.
Who knows they are so twisted.


With talk like that , I would say you belong to a group within a human race that is full of hate and you are being very narrow minded.

We don't all know that the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans. That comment is ugly hateful and racial.

bad bad bad on you.


That would be like me saying all left wing extremist are as full of hate, ugly remarks and racist.

Just because some in a group act bad does not mean all in that party follow that way of thinking.

That is like me saying that just because a few people that worked for ACORN committed fraud must mean all of ACORN is fraudulent.


You are saying that by expressing the truth about the right wing extremist that I am being a racist. So are you saying that the right wing extremist are a seperate race?


6#######

You are either being foolish or a hateful idiot and I can't tell which right now.

Obviously you are just trying to get a rise out of me with your nonsense.

Your so called truth that you think you are expressing is nothing more than hate speech dressed up as a post.

Since you can't express your opinion without all this hate towards one side, I can't take anything you have to say seriously.

You know darn well your post and comments were racist remarks when you suggested that the extreme right was some supreme being, race, that is above all else even God!

You are not funny and that is just down right mean.

But I will forgive you for your awful behavior just as I am sure God would want me to and I know God will forgive all his misguided children on the right and the left for using all he stands for in the wrong way.

You were very bad today 6.



The only people that I have been hard on is the right wing extremist.
For me to be a racist they the right wing extremist would have to be a separate race.
So either they are the scum of the human race which I believe or they would have to be a separate race which I do not believe. If they are as I believe the dregs of the human race I can not be a racist. If they are a super race then you can call me a racist. So which is it?
I only believe in one race the human race. I think any member of the human race can be a horses rear end or any one can be good.

You said that I have been bad today I assume that you mean that like a Red 57 Chevrolet convertible with white naugahyde pleat and roll upholstery is really bad so, thank you for the complement. Your kinda bad your self in a Z-06 way.


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Mark my works folks, this is going to turn bad.


Actually it going to get worse as we get closer to 2010. More of this will come out and more and more will refuse to take it or limit their answers to what they want to devulge. If enough people protest or refuse to answer certain questions, not much they can do. Power is in the masses.
 
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I have not seen this post anywhere on Mil.com,so i am posting one small story about it.

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By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


The U.S. Census Bureau, reflecting what apparently is becoming a political position that involves more than one federal agency, has listed "hate groups," "law enforcement" "and "anti-immigrant groups" among those that would be refused permission to become a partner with the 2010 Census.

The news comes in a series of documents obtained by Judicial Watch under the Freedom of Information Act about the census operations.

WND previously reported when the Department of Homeland Security released an "extremism" report that warned local law enforcement officers nationwide to watch out for "potential terrorists" including those who:


Oppose abortion


Oppose same-sex marriage


Oppose restrictions on firearms


Oppose lax immigration laws


Oppose the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs


Oppose continuation of free trade agreements


Are suspect of foreign regimes


Fear Communist regimes


Oppose a "one world" government


Bemoan the decline of U.S. stature in the world


Are upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India, and more
At the time, a lawyer pursuing a lawsuit against Department of Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano over the "extremist" report said he was not reassured by her later promise to "reword" the document.

"She says, 'Well, we're going to reword the document – and we're going to make it more precise,'" Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center, told WND. "That's scary because we know they are still going to maintain some kind of targeting for various people that she's never apologized to or never retracted [her accusations]."


"Red Storm Rising" was wrong - They don't have to paratroop forces into the country if they already own the White House and Office of Motherland Security.


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We just need to "bone up" on our "Civics lessons" and get active in government by holding our reps, senators, etc accountable to do what we ask of them....of course we have to comminicate with them.

We need to know the history/historical documents of our country like the back of our hands, instead of letting someone else interpret them for us. We need to use the system as it was designed and not let everyone make all our decisions for us without representation. Our government will die on the vine if it is not pruned, and cared for. We are the husbandry.

Get active! Come out of hybrination.
 
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There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.
Got any verifiable examples?


Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups. Smile
Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.


I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.


"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.


Oh don't be so dramatic.

Unlike you, I know both sides are radical and corrupt.

And yes, how dare they on both sides not be up front with what the real agenda is and hide it under all these organizations.

As for your racist remarks, I don't want to bow down to the left socialist dictator way of life, I don't want to bow down to the right corruption but why don't you all stand up with me, in the middle as an Independent and make both parties be accountable to all the people and not just a one sided party and agenda.



“As for your racist remarks,”

You are making reference to my the super race comment .

I belong to the human race

We all know the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans but below
Angles or maybe in their twisted minds it is between God and Angels or even above God.
Who knows they are so twisted.


With talk like that , I would say you belong to a group within a human race that is full of hate and you are being very narrow minded.

We don't all know that the right wing extremist belong to a race above humans. That comment is ugly hateful and racial.

bad bad bad on you.


That would be like me saying all left wing extremist are as full of hate, ugly remarks and racist.

Just because some in a group act bad does not mean all in that party follow that way of thinking.

That is like me saying that just because a few people that worked for ACORN committed fraud must mean all of ACORN is fraudulent.


You are saying that by expressing the truth about the right wing extremist that I am being a racist. So are you saying that the right wing extremist are a seperate race?


6#######

You are either being foolish or a hateful idiot and I can't tell which right now.

Obviously you are just trying to get a rise out of me with your nonsense.

Your so called truth that you think you are expressing is nothing more than hate speech dressed up as a post.

Since you can't express your opinion without all this hate towards one side, I can't take anything you have to say seriously.

You know darn well your post and comments were racist remarks when you suggested that the extreme right was some supreme being, race, that is above all else even God!

You are not funny and that is just down right mean.

But I will forgive you for your awful behavior just as I am sure God would want me to and I know God will forgive all his misguided children on the right and the left for using all he stands for in the wrong way.

You were very bad today 6.



The only people that I have been hard on is the right wing extremist.
For me to be a racist they the right wing extremist would have to be a separate race.
So either they are the scum of the human race which I believe or they would have to be a separate race which I do not believe. If they are as I believe the dregs of the human race I can not be a racist. If they are a super race then you can call me a racist. So which is it?
I only believe in one race the human race. I think any member of the human race can be a horses rear end or any one can be good.

You said that I have been bad today I assume that you mean that like a Red 57 Chevrolet convertible with white naugahyde pleat and roll upholstery is really bad so, thank you for the complement. Your kinda bad your self in a Z-06 way.


Wink


Don't try that ol sweeet talk with me 6. You are still on the naughty matt until you agree from now on you and I both will not post bad about just one party without exposing the other, yes or no? Smile

You said both sides have bad and you have posted about both in the past, but in every post today you only slam one side, why?

You don't think some on the radical extreme left don't think they are superior or above the law or held above all others?

I am not sure what a z-06 way is, but I bet you think the red 57 is better. Big Grin
 
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We just need to "bone up" on our "Civics lessons" and get active in government by holding our reps, senators, etc accountable to do what we ask of them....of course we have to comminicate with them.

We need to know the history/historical documents of our country like the back of our hands, instead of letting someone else interpret them for us. We need to use the system as it was designed and not let everyone make all our decisions for us without representation. Our government will die on the vine if it is not pruned, and cared for. We are the husbandry.

Get active! Come out of hybrination.


woot woot! I vote Tower Flower as head community organizer!!

You know what Tower, half the people don't even know what all they are voting on when and if they get to the voting booth.

And they certainly don't watch from day to day to follow up on what the heck they are doing in office or voting on, unless it some cheating scandal makes the news with them as the headline.

I am guilty of that myself. Frown But I am getting better and trying to learn more and focus.

I want to head up an Independent Party where I live here in California. Only trouble is, I don't know who I want to run, who will run?

I need someone smart, fresh, hip, well spoken with no baggage in the closet. I don't wish for much eh? lol

Plus, you know, when I see a post here that tells me to go on a site and write to my rep and let them know I am against something, I do, but I always wonder if it really matters.

To tell you the truth, I think we should totally clean the house out and start over. I don't trust any of them and I don't think they are looking out for me.

They are too greedy, settled and spend more time in the house cafeteria than they do looking out after me.
 
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