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Originally posted by iamgonzo:

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Originally posted by karlhungusjr:
do ya'll know what a "warning sign" is?

did you have Disciplinary problems in school? If you did, did that mean you were a destined to be a criminal? No. of course it doesn't. But does that something you look for when trying to determine what kids need extra attention? yes.

does Opposing abortion make you a terrorist? No. are there people who hate abortion so badly that the will kill or set off bombs because of it? hell yes.


WND's "list" is a joke. use your common sense people. Its vaguely worded to dupe the gullible.

as for the census part of the "article"....do you REALLY think groups like the Klan should be allowed to go door to door collecting information on people? Do you REALLY want the local police doing that either?

Do you want the Black Panthers doing it either? How about Code Pink? There are plenty of left wing extremists out there also.

To be fair this isn't about who will be going door to door, it is the Census Partners who get the word out for everyone to participate. I don't have a problem with law enforcement reminding people that the census is coming up and everyone should participate. I can see the census bureau not wanting to be associated with any extremist groups but, law enforcement agencies? How can one government agency say they don't want another government agency to assist?

And as far as it being vaguely worded to dupe the gullible, check the information received under the freedomm of information act. It does specify law enforcement agencies.

I agree. That is what I was trying to say but you said it better.

I just wanted to say there are two sides and the way the list was reading, it was just focused on one side or group being bad.

And I also have to say that I don't think ACORN is fair and balanced. It might have been at one time but it sure isn't now.

It leans to the left and basically works for them now. They try to put them in to every bill as pork every chance they get.

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by 6837602:

During the mid 70s there were a lot of violent acts done by people who were pushing the left wing extremist agenda

That was almost 40 years ago. I was looking for recent examples...last 10 years kinda stuff.

I am not aware of any during the last 20 years all of the whackos have gone over to the right wing extremist they ( the RWEs ) have become a whacko moron magnet.

Whether it be Ted Bundy, Tim McVeigh , or Oliver North the freakazoids have all been drawn to the right wing extremist cesspool.

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Originally posted by 6837602:
I am not aware of any during the last 20 years all of the whackos have gone over to the right wing extremist they ( the RWEs ) have become a whacko moron magnet.

Me neither, which is why I was asking. Seems nobody else can either?

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
What's the diference; the KKK or ACORN. They are both EXTREME groups who have an extreme agenda!
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This is an extreme agenda on par with the Klan?:

"ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is the nation's largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families, working together for social justice and stronger communities.

Since 1970, ACORN has grown to more than 350,000 member families, organized in 850 neighborhood chapters in over 100 cities across the U.S. and in cities in Argentina, Peru, Mexico, the Dominican Republic and Canada.

ACORN's accomplishments include successful campaigns for better housing, schools, neighborhood safety, health care, job conditions, and more.

ACORN members participate in local meetings and actively work on campaigns, elect leadership from the neighborhood level up, and pay the organization's core expenses through membership dues and grassroots fundraisers.

ACORN has constantly challenged the traditional notions of what a community organization is, and its family of organizations includes two radio stations, a voter registration network, a housing corporation, and several publications."

***http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=2703***

You must not know much about the Klan and related groups.

I still look forward to you posting some "stubborn facts" to back up some of your statements.



But I won't hold my breath...

The KKK was a bad example in that ACORN has not killed anyone.

The only comparison is that both ACORN and the KKK have an agenda, gather in large groups and attempt to sway people with their work.

You are jumping too fast to defend ACORN. Yes, ACORN has an agenda and it leans to the left.

They gather and support the left and it sways elections as we have just seen.

The people they put in office make the laws.

Right now many people feel the laws are starting to lean towards a social state which are basically laws of gifts and handouts and paybacks to a large group of people. Their vote is bought and paid for.

I wonder, if you looked up the record and tracked how many times ACORN put the left into office ,

or gathered around a local business like a lending bank and forced them to grant loans to a certain group of people who basically could not afford the darn thing, helping to create the housing issue the rest of us have to deal with now.

I wonder how many times you would find the left party and law makers trying to put ACORN in bills as pork for funding?

I wonder how many people of ACORN of registered left?

I wonder how much money ACORN gets from the government? Who pays them?

I wonder how much ACORN donates to public officals and is it more left or right?

I wonder how many times ACORN has had people working for them and forging paper work that would corrupt elections and put the wrong people in office? We only caught this one, but what about the others?

I wonder if ACORN has now grown into a beast with so many heads that what might have started as a good thing has now become corrupt?

I wonder.

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.

Got any verifiable examples?

Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups.

ACORN, the organization, have not been convicted of any wrongdoing and have operated within the law. They do not profess to be a bi-partisan or non-partisan group, nor do they have to.

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Originally posted by 6837602:

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Originally posted by mainedawg:
The list I posted will take in just about all of us.

We are listed with one or another cause.

I don't see how they could make a list like this?

It is a matter of degree and ones willingness to go over the edge if your are surrounded by right wing extremist it may appear that this list is all inclusive but as evidence by the Nov 08 election this list does not include most good and normal Americans.

Although each of us may have concerns about some these subjects as well as others most Americans are willing to put the good of the nation and their brothers and sisters first.

The character of the right wig extremist s driven by greed and a thrust for money and power. The kind of power that lets them exert their will over others, this is called subjugation. As all right wing extremist through out history have done, they use God as
an excuse to subjugate the people. I am a Christian and believe in God. The criminal agenda the right wing extremist have followed is a perversion of God’s word. There is nothing Christian about it, it is just plane old selfish and hatful.

I do not think that Jesus would approve torture, the raping and subjugation of the middle and lower class, lying and getting hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed.

I do not pretend that I have lived a saintly life I have said and done things that are wrong but I do believe that the folly of the right wing extremist, the hate, the greed, the carnage,
and all their lies will bring server retribution upon them not by the good and decent people of the nation but by God.

How is it you only can find fault in the extreme right? Are you suggesting there is not an extreme left?

Why don't you call out the issues that are on the extreme left?

You don't think greed or corruption can happen on the left?

It was extreme greed and corruption that has put ACORN is question for trying to rig an election and who know how many other times they have done that.

Jeses would not want any type of evil from any one side. But even Jesus told the blind person to believe and do his part. He told those who could not walk, to get up and walk.

Jesus was not about walking around just handing out money to the village that sat around doing nothing feeling sorry for themselves. Jesus was about love and helping one antoerh but also to help yourself, living up to your potential and helping those around you.

This housing market crash started back with Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton carried it on. And Barney Franks and Cris Dogg over sea it.

They put laws into place that force lenders to loan to people who could not afford them and now we are all having to pay for it.

Yes, both sides have good and bad. That is the point to this thread, that list the census was putting together was leaning to one side.

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.

Got any verifiable examples?

Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups.

Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:

ACORN is every bit as dangerous as the KKK. They use threats of violence to achieve their ends.

Feel free to provide examples of these "threats of violence" by the organization known as ACORN. See, my google (with a built in left wing bias) gives me the following responses when typing in "ACORN threats of violence":

Death Threat, Vandalism Hit ACORN After Accusations
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/10/18-10

ACORN FACES VIOLENCE, THREATS.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_10/015242.php

Death threat, vandalism hit ACORN after McCain comments
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/54360.html

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Harassing bank officials at their business and at home, rigging elections and so much more.

Again some examples would be nice. Where are the convictions for these crimes? The only recent convictions I have heard about regarding voter fraud was the head of a Republican voter registration firm. (There is a thread around here somewhere on it..oh, here it is: Head of CA GOP Voter Registration Firm Pleads Guilty to Voter Registration Fraud) When was the organization ACORN or even an official at ACORN convicted of anything?

Come on SeaWitch, you know darn well that ACORN has some issues with regard to their employees being apart of fraud.

That is not to say that all of ACORN is bad, but it needs to seriously be looked at.

And yes, ACORN has a problem from within if this is normal practice with regard to fraud.

You are asking me to believe that this was only the action of a few people this one time and something tells me that is not totally true.

You all that can't admit that ACORN might have a few issues are like the parent that attacks the teacher and the school, because the teather tells them they have a naughty child that has been acting up in class.

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

quote:

Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.

Got any verifiable examples?

Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups.

Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.

Dixiecrats were right wing extremist and yes they do go over to the GOP

In 1968 when the Dixiecrats found out they were no longer going to be able to subjugate the good people of the south they went over to the GOP where they were welcomed with open arms. For a long time now the GOP has been the party of divisiveness, hate, and greed where people of that ilk are made to feel good by telling them thy are doing Gods work.

Thank God that by Nov of 08 the good and descent American people had had enough and rebelled and drove the despots from Washington.

Just as the brave British people of all walks and stations of life went across the English Channel to save the British Army from the clutches of another despot at Dunkirk the brave people of all walks and stations of life saved America in Nov of 08.

During the 8 years of shame, disgrace and dishonor a few brave Americans stood up for freedom, justice and honor against the most corrupt regime this nation has ever had to suffer. They subjected themselves to ridicule, economic ruin at the hands of the right wing extremist and untold assaults on their ability to make a living for themselves and their families.

I have the greatest respect for the few brave Hurricane and Spitfire pilots who stood up against Hitler’s thugs.

I have the same respect for the few brave Americans who stood up to the thugs of our own home grown despotic regime. Thank God that we are interring a brighter time filled with hope, a respect for freedom and a desire for justice and honor.

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Originally posted by Fightdirector:

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Originally posted by 6837602:
One thing that makes the right wing extremist so dangerous to day is that they have told the lie that they are doing God’s work so many times they are starting to believe it.

Exactly!

I'm know that those "100% Real Americans" who tried to burn down my father's house and his church in New Mexico last year believed they were "doing God’s work" - because that's what the District Attorney who prosecuted the case told my brother and I the arsonists had told the police - and I have no reason to doubt him. Since my Dad had members of his church who were legal Hispanic immigrants, naturalized American citizens who had been born in Mexico and Americans whose parents had legally immigrated from Mexico, these "Real Americans" felt they were "doing God's work" of preserving America for other "Real Americans" by trying to burn the church and his house down.

Why, would you believe that my Dad was so "anti-American" that he taught himself Spanish so that he could better serve the members of his church as their minister? Obviously my father was a greater danger to the United States than the scum who tried to burn him out of his home.

But all too many here seem to be taking the position that these arsonists and their buddies shouldn't even be looked at by law enforcement until they actually kill someone.

Probably because, in these Forum readers' and Forum posters' hearts, they think these arsonists had their hearts in the right place - the same place these Forum readers' and Forum posters' hearts are. These Forum readers' and Forum posters' merely object to the tactics used by the arsonists, not their objectives.

Hey Fightdirector,

Sorry to hear about what happen to your father, his home, church and friends.

This is the first I am even hearing about this taking place.

I would never take the side of anyone killing in God's name.

That is not a left or a right issue to me.

I would not take the side of Bill Ayers who blew up those buildings and killed people because of his radical thoughts towards government either.

I think you can make a point or your thoughts known without resorting to killing, don't you?

Even if we are talking about illegal residents, that is no reason to kill.

I do think our laws have to be respected and ALL should have to come here legally just like I have to have permission when I go to another country and obey their laws.

But you don't have to burn down homes and kill people to want immigration control.

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Originally posted by usa_girl:
Come on SeaWitch, you know darn well that ACORN has some issues with regard to their employees being apart of fraud.

And the Army has had issues with some of its soldiers raping and killing innocent civilians...the organization ACORN is being vilified for the actions of a VERY FEW of its thousands and thousands of employees.

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That is not to say that all of ACORN is bad, but it needs to seriously be looked at.

LOL...and you don't think ACORN has been "looked at"? Where are the convictions?

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And yes, ACORN has a problem from within if this is normal practice with regard to fraud.

What "practice"? Turning in all voter registrations they receive from their employees? Another FYI...they are required to turn in EVERY voter registration card...it is up to the Registrar to sort out which registrations are legitimate or not.

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You are asking me to believe that this was only the action of a few people this one time and something tells me that is not totally true.

And yet none has been found to date. Not a single charge or conviction of the organization.

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You all that can't admit that ACORN might have a few issues are like the parent that attacks the teacher and the school, because the teather tells them they have a naughty child that has been acting up in class.

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Originally posted by Fightdirector:

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Originally posted by iamgonzo:
But why is it only the government is only mentioning the right wing extremists?

The Bush Administration's Department of Homeland Security which wrote the document warning of threats to the United States from Right-wing extremists also wrote and released a document warning of threats to the United States from Left-wing extremists (primarily eco-terrorists such as Earth First). The document was released while the Bush Administration was still in office, but, since it didn't offend the tender sensibilities of the Right, they forgot it after a day or two.

The Right's tender sensibilities were only offended when the Obama Administration released the document written by the Bush Administration's Department of Homeland Security warning of threats to the United States from Right-wing extremists - because in their minds, there are NO Right-wing extremists (they're just over-zealous Patriots ).

In the minds of the Right, only Left-wing people can be extremists, since anyone who isn't Right-wing isn't a "Real American" and, therefore, a potential traitor. And, if anyone who belongs to Right-wing organizations does commit an act of violence (like Timothy Mcveigh or Eric Rudolph or Von Brunn, for example), people on the Right immediately claim that these acts of violence are actually proof that the person was really a leftist!

"Denial" is not just the name of the river that flows through Egypt.

Thanks for educating me, I had no idea the Bush admin had wrote a document warning of Left Wing extremists. {/sarcasm}

This discussion is about the current census bureau documents stating that they don't believe law enforcement or right wing groups (not specifying extremist groups) can be trusted to tell people that the census is coming up. Do you think it is right for law enforcement to be treated the same as the KKK?

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.

Got any verifiable examples?

Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups.

Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.

I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, mom and pop shops, dining establishments and any others who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad, but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative than the right.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Do you know what a representative government is?

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Originally posted by 6837602:

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

quote:

Originally posted by usa_girl:

quote:

Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

quote:

Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.

Got any verifiable examples?

Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups.

Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.

Dixiecrats were right wing extremist and yes they do go over to the GOP

In 1968 when the Dixiecrats found out they were no longer going to be able to subjugate the good people of the south they went over to the GOP where they were welcomed with open arms. For a long time now the GOP has been the party of divisiveness, hate, and greed where people of that ilk are made to feel good by telling them thy are doing Gods work.

Thank God that by Nov of 08 the good and descent American people had had enough and rebelled and drove the despots from Washington.

Just as the brave British people of all walks and stations of life went across the English Channel to save the British Army from the clutches of another despot at Dunkirk the brave people of all walks and stations of life saved America in Nov of 08.

During the 8 years of shame, disgrace and dishonor a few brave Americans stood up for freedom, justice and honor against the most corrupt regime this nation has ever had to suffer. They subjected themselves to ridicule, economic ruin at the hands of the right wing extremist and untold assaults on their ability to make a living for themselves and their families.

I have the greatest respect for the few brave Hurricane and Spitfire pilots who stood up against Hitler’s thugs.

I have the same respect for the few brave Americans who stood up to the thugs of our own home grown despotic regime. Thank God that we are interring a brighter time filled with hope, a respect for freedom and a desire for justice and honor.

.

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

quote:

Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

quote:

Originally posted by usa_girl:

quote:

Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

quote:

Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.

Got any verifiable examples?

Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups.

Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.

I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.

"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Do you know what a representative government is?

Good shot.

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by usa_girl:
Come on SeaWitch, you know darn well that ACORN has some issues with regard to their employees being apart of fraud.

And the Army has had issues with some of its soldiers raping and killing innocent civilians...the organization ACORN is being vilified for the actions of a VERY FEW of its thousands and thousands of employees.

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That is not to say that all of ACORN is bad, but it needs to seriously be looked at.

LOL...and you don't think ACORN has been "looked at"? Where are the convictions?

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And yes, ACORN has a problem from within if this is normal practice with regard to fraud.

What "practice"? Turning in all voter registrations they receive from their employees? Another FYI...they are required to turn in EVERY voter registration card...it is up to the Registrar to sort out which registrations are legitimate or not.

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You are asking me to believe that this was only the action of a few people this one time and something tells me that is not totally true.

And yet none has been found to date. Not a single charge or conviction of the organization.

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You all that can't admit that ACORN might have a few issues are like the parent that attacks the teacher and the school, because the teather tells them they have a naughty child that has been acting up in class.

OK, let's try this another way.

First let me start by saying that one bad apples does not mean you throw out the bunch. I get that.

Now, do you think ACORN has any responsibility in the people they hire, in the training of those people and the supervision of those employees?

True, ACORN gathers the votes and turns them all in. Well, I am going to take your word for that because I can't honestly say they turn in every card for how many elections? But I will give them the benefit of the doubt on that.

As you say, they have not been convicted. But have they ever even been challanged or looked at? How many other times might this have happened and we just didn't know about it?


You say, it is the registrar that needs to make sure all are valid. You don't think having them overwhelmed by so many fraudulant votes, so many system that is put in place to protect us from this type of corruption is not aiding to the fraud?

Just like so many other social systems and services that are abused and overwhelmed by fraudulant people that it can't focus on the valid issues or needs.

I would think if you are behind the group as much as you seem to be that you more than anyone would want those people responsible to be prosecuted and removed from ACORN and you more than anyone would want ACORN to be more accountable for the people that represent them.

I always thought ACORN was for all the communtiy not just one side. As an Independent, it is good to have their agenda exposed so in the future I will know and others will know, they don't represent all.

Not that it is bad to have a liberal group to represent their agenda, I just want to know that upfront and not slipped in after the fact in the form of pork.


Before this last election, I did not even know what ACORN was or what pork was and now I do and so thank goodness for Fox exposing the other side.

They might not always get it right, but at least now I know that ACORN would not be representing me or the Independent vote and that their agenda is strictly for getting their people in office to push forward their social programs.

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Originally posted by 6837602:

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by 6837602:

There are however plenty of examples of the left wing extremist going over the edge and becoming violent.

Got any verifiable examples?

Umm, Ayers, the under ground, black panthers, etc

oh and btw... the KKK were started by the Democratic party, don't try and put that extreme hate group on the right or fox.

They belong to the left with the rest of their radical groups.

Again you are coming up with examples that are 30-40 years old. How about some recent examples? What "left wing" ideals do the KKK espouse? The Dixiecrats were a long time ago...and they abandoned the Democrats and joined the GOP back in 1948.

Just an FYI...we are now in the latter half of 2009.

I would say today, after all these years later, the left have learned a better way to control and manipulate without resorting to violence.

They just organise and put people into office that then make the laws and enforce their agenda on the rest of society.

Even if the majority of a state votes twice against it, the people that have been put into office by such radical left groups will attempt to override such a vote by a majority.

Also, they have gathered in large numbers and formed radical protest at such business establishments as banks, pop and pop shops, dining establishments who might be against the left agenda.

Peta is about as violent as I can think of right now. They have broken into pet places and destroyed property, they have thrown paint on people wearing fur, etc

I think we might see a little more aggression coming from both sides with regard to the gay movement.

This last vote in California, an old lady came out with her cross to protest and the gay community lost it on her and hit it out of her hands and surrounded her and yelled at her and then a few from the other side came in to push them back off of her.

It was all very sad but I could see where this might get even more physical in the future.

Just to say, the left might have found other ways of controlling people and pushing their agenda but that does not make them any less radical or manipulative.

I think there is enough of that on both sides to go around.

"just organise and put people into office that then make the laws"

How dare the people “organize and put people into office then make Laws” don’t they know that only the right wing extremist know what is best for them and only right wing extremist should be in a law making position, don’t they even know that the right wing extremist belong to a super race and we should bow down to them, that the right wing extremist are our betters and we should not challenge their evil right wing extremist agenda of hate and greed how stupid of the good and descent people of America to participate in a democracy.

Just as America’s greatest generation would never bow down to Hitler or Tojo I will never bend a knee for these right wing extremist who brought us the 8 years of shame, disgrace, and dishonor.

I will as I have done all of my life fight them until I take the big dirt nap.

Oh don't be so dramatic.

Unlike you, I know both sides are radical and corrupt.

And yes, how dare they on both sides not be up front with what the real agenda is and hide it under all these organizations.

As for your racist remarks, I don't want to bow down to the left socialist dictator way of life, I don't want to bow down to the right corruption but why don't you all stand up with me, in the middle as an Independent and make both parties be accountable to all the people and not just a one sided party and agenda.