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And ruled it "unconstitutional". This is a great day in America.
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WASHINGTON (CNN) --The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Washington D.C.'s sweeping ban on handguns is unconstitutional.

The justices voted 5-4 against the ban with Justice Antonin Scalia writing the opinion for the majority.
They got this one right. Applause
 
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I look forward to hear the crying coming soon. Big Grin
 
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The right decision was made. It's somewhat unsettling however that we have four justices on the bench that would attempt to deny a right in the constitution that is written bold and clear and for which there is more than ample evidence our fourfathers clearly intended to enshrine. Shameful.
 
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Big Grin Applause Annie get your gun.
 
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Applause They got one right! Someone give them a cookie...
 
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Here is a real key part of this ruling. They didn't say it's unconstitutional because it's vague, or that it's poorly worded, or whatever weawselwords they could have used. They said it violates an individual's constitutional right "to keep and bear arms".
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WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Supreme Court on Thursday rejected a sweeping handgun ban in the nation's capital, saying it violates Americans' constitutional right to "keep and bear arms."
 
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Here is a real key part of this ruling. They didn't say it's unconstitutional because it's vague, or that it's poorly worded, or whatever weawselwords they could have used. They said it violates an individual's constitutional right "to keep and bear arms".
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WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Supreme Court on Thursday rejected a sweeping handgun ban in the nation's capital, saying it violates Americans' constitutional right to "keep and bear arms."


Once in for all we have something that shows what most of us knew all along. Now maybe those that try to twist the wording will STFU!


 
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The right decision was made. It's somewhat unsettling however that we have four justices on the bench that would attempt to deny a right in the constitution that is written bold and clear and for which there is more than ample evidence our fourfathers clearly intended to enshrine. Shameful.


Yep, those 4 are shameful indeed.


 
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Here is a real key part of this ruling. They didn't say it's unconstitutional because it's vague, or that it's poorly worded, or whatever weawselwords they could have used. They said it violates an individual's constitutional right "to keep and bear arms".
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WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Supreme Court on Thursday rejected a sweeping handgun ban in the nation's capital, saying it violates Americans' constitutional right to "keep and bear arms."


Once in for all we have something that shows what most of us knew all along. Now maybe those that try to twist the wording will STFU!


Wishful thinking
 
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Thats some wishful thinking. You know the anti-gun nutjobs will keep at it.

Don't be surprised if there isn't a push to ratify the constitution.

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Here is a real key part of this ruling. They didn't say it's unconstitutional because it's vague, or that it's poorly worded, or whatever weawselwords they could have used. They said it violates an individual's constitutional right "to keep and bear arms".
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WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Supreme Court on Thursday rejected a sweeping handgun ban in the nation's capital, saying it violates Americans' constitutional right to "keep and bear arms."


Once in for all we have something that shows what most of us knew all along. Now maybe those that try to twist the wording will STFU!
 
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The best news and definitve answer on the simmering gun control odyssey.
Made my day.
The plaintiff should be honored somehow, name an aircraft carrier after him!

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Don't be surprised if there isn't a push to ratify the constitution.
The good news is that if there's one thing harder than getting some people to support gun rights, it's changing the Constitution. Wink

More words from the court. Comment by Scalia
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"Undoubtedly some think that the Second Amendment is outmoded in a society where our standing army is the pride of our nation, where well-trained police forces provide personal security and where gun violence is a serious problem," Scalia wrote. "That is perhaps debatable, but what is not debatable is that it is not the role of this court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct."
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While the good guys won in DC v. Heller, the 5-4 ruling in that case is a constitutional disaster.

Space cadet Justice Stevens and the other dissenting justices are hypocritically concerned about the original intent of the 2nd A., seemingly trying to rewrite history where the original intent of that amendment is concerned.

The problem is that Justice Stevens and his Constitution-hating minority colleagues are ignoring the Civil War where their interpretation of the 2nd A. is concerned as much as other politically correct ideas now deny 911. The truth of the matter is that post Civil War constitutional lawmakers clarified the meaning of the 2nd A. and other constitutional statutes defining privileges and immunities when the 14th A. was made. So Stevens and his cronies aren't doing anybody a favor by emphasizing their version of the original intent of the 2nd A. when they're ignoring official post Civil War clarification of constitutional privileges and immunities.

To be more specific, although DC v. Heller was not a state power issue, official discussions concerning the drafting of the 14th A. made it clear that the post Civil War 39th Congress regarded the 2nd A. protect right to keep and bear arms as a personal right. In fact, John Bingham, the main author of Sec. 1 of the 14th A., included the 2nd A. when he read the first eight amendments as examples of constitutional statutes containing privileges and immunities that the 14th A. applied to the states.

See the 2nd A. in the middle column of the following page from the Congressional Globe, a precursor to the Congressional Record.

As a side note, consider that the above referenced page is dated for more than two years after the ratification of the 14th Amendment. So Bingham was evidently reassuring his colleagues about the scope and purpose of the ratified 14th Amendment.

Getting back to DC v. Heller, the dissenting opinion scandalously ignores the post Civil War clarification of the 2nd A. as a personal right. This is evidenced by both the emphasis on and distortions thereof on the original intent of 2nd A. drafters by corrupt, dissenting justices.
 
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JUST THINK HOW EFFECTIVE THE banning of THE OWNERSHIP OF I E D'S would be in Iraq.....


this is definitely a blow to criminal's for the ones who can think will think twice if his victim to be JUST MIGHT PUT A HOLE IN HIS HEAD NEXT TO THE ONE ALREADY THERE Beer
 
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When guns are outlawed, ONLY outlaws will have guns. The posession of owning a rifle was never in question and they are even deadlier than a handgun. the Supreme Court got this one right.
 
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Makes up a little for the FUBAR FIVE ruling on GITMO "detainees."

And, just barely... another 5-4 decision with the conservatives & liberals batting Justice Stevens back and forth like a ping pong ball. You never know which way it's going until this space cadet votes, aptly coined by "TenthAmendment" above. All the other justices can just go home, and Stevens can make all the decisions alone. That's what's happening anyway!
 
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When guns are outlawed, ONLY outlaws will have guns. The posession of owning a rifle was never in question and they are even deadlier than a handgun. the Supreme Court got this one right.


while I uphold everyones right to have a gun if they wish... please keep in mind that guns and kids do not mix. if you have children please keep your gun locked and the bullets stored in a different location also locked. too many lives are lost when a gun falls into the wrong hands. and yes, it is true that people not guns kill people. but many families do not follow these saftey warnings and many children die every year while playing with HANDGUNS. a shot gun is a lot harder for a small child to pick up and fire.

a freind of mine works with children teaching them gun saftey, the children tell him thety understand and they say that they would never play with a gun they find and yet when you leave them alone with the gun he watches almost every child walk over and pick up the gun. while the parents watch from another room. I just think families with children need to pay extra close attention. and maybe decide that having a handgun is just not worth the risk that it might pose on the youngest member of their family.
 
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