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The United States found itself up against virtually the entire world Wednesday as country after country at the United Nations denounced the nearly 50-year-old trade embargo against Cuba, which the island government says is as strong as ever under President Barack Obama.

It was the 18th time the U.N. General Assembly voted to condemn the embargo, and the first time since Obama took office in January. In a near unanimous vote -- 187 to 3 -- the only nations to side with the United States were Israel and Palau, a country of 21,000 people in the Pacific.

Micronesia and the Marshall Islands abstained.

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I would like to see the sanctions go away in the near future…….

+http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/1305759.html


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I would like to see the human rights violations go away NOW.

Miami. June 15, 2009. Assembly of the Resistance. Two Cuba-based human rights watchdogs, the Council of Human Rights Rapporteurs of Cuba and the Municipal Democratic Circles of Cuba made public today alarming statistics on human rights violations on the Island from January to June of this year in a twice-yearly report. Their report was presented by Pedro Penaranda, the organizations’ representative outside of Cuba.


According to their report, at least 26 peaceful dissidents were tried by Cuban courts and imprisoned so far this year, a fact that confirms that political persecution remains the rule in totalitarian Cuba. More than 500 arrests of peaceful human rights defenders, opposition activists, independent journalists and their families took place. Details including the names and addresses of people affected as well as the sources of the information were included along with the report.


The Castro regime’s prisons continue to be the sites of terrible violations of the rights of prisoners, particularly the rights of political prisoners, but also the rights of common prisoners.


“The alarming deaths of young people in the prisons continue. In only 11 prisons, 21 common prisoners died due to negligence, the rigor of the prison regime, beatings, and mistreatment. Currently, there are about 250 prisons in Cuba,” states the document.

"http://www.directorio.org/pressreleases/note.php?note_id=2471
 
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I would like to see the human rights violations go away NOW.



I agree, but let’s not pretend Cuban embargo has anything to do with “Human Rights”!


There are ~75 countries (including our good friends the Chinese) listed on the HRW with human right issues, but ONLY ONE do we economic sanctions against.


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Our government might be able to make the case for continuing the embargo if they could show any shred of evidence that it was having a positive effect, but such is not the case. Since we've been all alone on this ineffectual embargo for many years, I'd say it's time to pull the plug. I think we'd have a more positive effect on Cuba by lifting most of the travel and commerce restrictions. Does anyone truly believe they are any kind of serious threat to us at this point?
 
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If anything We will stop the embargo on our term's and our term's only. Not Cuba or France or Russia or etc.
 
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If anything We will stop the embargo on our term's and our term's only. Not Cuba or France or Russia or etc.


Right on! What ever the world community wants, we should do the opposite!


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since when does the u.n. have any say in what we do ... they are just lackies for the communists and terrorists
 
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The United States found itself up against virtually the entire world Wednesday as country after country at the United Nations denounced the nearly 50-year-old trade embargo against Cuba, which the island government says is as strong as ever under President Barack Obama.

It was the 18th time the U.N. General Assembly voted to condemn the embargo, and the first time since Obama took office in January. In a near unanimous vote -- 187 to 3 -- the only nations to side with the United States were Israel and Palau, a country of 21,000 people in the Pacific.

Micronesia and the Marshall Islands abstained.

.....



I would like to see the sanctions go away in the near future…….

+http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/1305759.html
Of Course YOU would Wink
 
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If anything We will stop the embargo on our term's and our term's only. Not Cuba or France or Russia or etc.


Right on! What ever the world community wants, we should do the opposite!


Well why in the world should we do what the world wants? We are a soverign nation if you havn't forgotten.
 
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The United States found itself up against virtually the entire world Wednesday as country after country at the United Nations denounced the nearly 50-year-old trade embargo against Cuba, which the island government says is as strong as ever under President Barack Obama.

It was the 18th time the U.N. General Assembly voted to condemn the embargo, and the first time since Obama took office in January. In a near unanimous vote -- 187 to 3 -- the only nations to side with the United States were Israel and Palau, a country of 21,000 people in the Pacific.

Micronesia and the Marshall Islands abstained.

.....



I would like to see the sanctions go away in the near future…….

+http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/1305759.html
Of Course YOU would Wink


So, explain why you think it should continue.
 
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The United States found itself up against virtually the entire world Wednesday as country after country at the United Nations denounced the nearly 50-year-old trade embargo against Cuba, which the island government says is as strong as ever under President Barack Obama.

It was the 18th time the U.N. General Assembly voted to condemn the embargo, and the first time since Obama took office in January. In a near unanimous vote -- 187 to 3 -- the only nations to side with the United States were Israel and Palau, a country of 21,000 people in the Pacific.

Micronesia and the Marshall Islands abstained.

.....



I would like to see the sanctions go away in the near future…….

+http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/1305759.html
Of Course YOU would Wink


So, explain why you think it should continue.


Because we want it to?
 
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If anything We will stop the embargo on our term's and our term's only. Not Cuba or France or Russia or etc.


Right on! What ever the world community wants, we should do the opposite!


What the world community wants is our money and we should do the opposite Beer
 
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Our government might be able to make the case for continuing the embargo if they could show any shred of evidence that it was having a positive effect, but such is not the case. Since we've been all alone on this ineffectual embargo for many years, I'd say it's time to pull the plug. I think we'd have a more positive effect on Cuba by lifting most of the travel and commerce restrictions. Does anyone truly believe they are any kind of serious threat to us at this point?


I agree. This 50 year embargo perhaps had some hope of encouraging reform in Cuba when it was enacted, but it has had absolutely no positive effect. As we continue this worthless embargo, The US looks like a petulant child who pouts when it does not get its way. It is time to end this insane embargo and open this market to American business entrepreneurs.

Please tell me. Exactly what positive outcome do we expect from continuing this worthless embargo?
 
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Funny how some advocate standing on principles with some issues ... but abandoning them with others.

IMHO there are some good reasons for dropping the embargo ... but the position of the United Nations isn't one of them.

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I would like to see the human rights violations go away NOW.

Yep ... and if not, to see the U.N. vote by the same margin to condemn Cuba's human rights violations as it did to condemn the trade sanctions ... but that won't happen in my lifetime.
 
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IMHO there are some good reasons for dropping the embargo ... but the position of the United Nations isn't one of them.


Never said it was, but it does reinforce the "good" reasons for it. Wink


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I'm sure the acceptance of this vote amongst some doesn't consider the early arrival of communism to America's. The Revolutionary Castro conducting his anti-democracy stand in Mexico before his aborted first effort in Cuba. He lost in both and regained his freedom by decree from Batista. The second revolution in Cuba gained a more favorable advantage but cost human lives in the tens of thousands and imprisonment to even more.

Those that voted for the resolution probably agreed to reparations to the take over of American interest that kept the country working and financially solvent during their short history free from European dictatorship.

President Obama has already taken steps to allow free flow of information and currency to Cuba, the which Castro gets the top 10%. Also agreeing is the travel by all Americans to Cuba.

The embargo doesn't include food, medical supplies or emergency equipment that has been furnished on ocassions of hurricane and natural disaster. It doesn't dictate to countries like Canada that has the right to conduct business and own property on the island. The only effected country is United States. The rest of the world has the right to sign treaties, sell goods, including military weapons. While Cuba chief export is communism.

For all of the above Castro and his brother has done NOTHING!

Now, the continuation of communism and support to other countries in the America's has originated in Cuba. While incorporating Marxist regimes (not Honduras) have united with Castro employing the same tactic's, imprisonment and lack of human resources and civil rights (Chavez) and you're saying the American embargo needs to be lifted and awards given to the rotten basturd.
 
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Funny how some advocate standing on principles with some issues ... but abandoning them with others.

IMHO there are some good reasons for dropping the embargo ... but the position of the United Nations isn't one of them.

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I would like to see the human rights violations go away NOW.

Yep ... and if not, to see the U.N. vote by the same margin to condemn Cuba's human rights violations as it did to condemn the trade sanctions ... but that won't happen in my lifetime.


Well said. And added Fug the UN.
 
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Yep ... and if not, to see the U.N. vote by the same margin to condemn Cuba's human rights violations as it did to condemn the trade sanctions ... but that won't happen in my lifetime.




04-14-2005
The U.N. Human Rights Commission on Thursday passed a U.S.-sponsored proposal condemning Cuba for its record on abuses and requesting that the global body keep the communist country's record under observation.

+http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-107432817.html



Popcorn


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Yep ... and if not, to see the U.N. vote by the same margin to condemn Cuba's human rights violations as it did to condemn the trade sanctions ... but that won't happen in my lifetime.




04-14-2005
The U.N. Human Rights Commission on Thursday passed a U.S.-sponsored proposal condemning Cuba for its record on abuses and requesting that the global body keep the communist country's record under observation.

+http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-107432817.html



And the General Assembly voted on it when? And it passed (in the General Assembly) by what margin?

Popcorn
 
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Our government might be able to make the case for continuing the embargo if they could show any shred of evidence that it was having a positive effect, but such is not the case. Since we've been all alone on this ineffectual embargo for many years, I'd say it's time to pull the plug. I think we'd have a more positive effect on Cuba by lifting most of the travel and commerce restrictions. Does anyone truly believe they are any kind of serious threat to us at this point?


I agree. This 50 year embargo perhaps had some hope of encouraging reform in Cuba when it was enacted, but it has had absolutely no positive effect. As we continue this worthless embargo, The US looks like a petulant child who pouts when it does not get its way. It is time to end this insane embargo and open this market to American business entrepreneurs.

Please tell me. Exactly what positive outcome do we expect from continuing this worthless embargo?


BPCR45 & Underdog,

Two "on the mark" posts. Add me on as one in full agreement with your posts. Well done!

Jack
 
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