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some new photo from msnbc http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23633733/
 
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some new photo from msnbc http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23633733/


All pictures by "anonymous". Not "too" much fear of the person who took the pictures.
 
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some new photo from msnbc http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23633733/


Pretty much what happens in US cities after a Major Sporting Event Victory by the Home Team...

I really like the White Wall tires on the armored vehicles...
 
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to me this is more like a peaceful demonstration at the beginning, but turn violent afterward. and the demonstrator take the opportunity start burning building, beating others, and looting.

why the heck there are tv and consumer product on the street, and bank ATM smashed. obviously the protestor try to steal something from store in a hurry.

if this is truly a free tibet campaign why there are tvs, consumer product on the street.
don't tell me the demonstrator try to take the tv from store to the street and start its free tibet campaign? Roll Eyes

its like people looting consumer product in one hand and in the other hand holding a free tibet sign/slogan.

this is not about free tibet, but resentment toward others who make more money than they are. its like my neighbor make more than i do, so i got mad and burn his house!!

think about it

btw found a video on youtube from hongkong news

http://youtube.com/user/kakasama2008

1 more demonstrator beating someone?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=--YwVxDWkBk&watch_response

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I am glad to see the Chinese people learned the lessons the Japanese taught them so very well back in the 30’s and 40’s. Strange though it may seem that many of their modern hero’s are men and women who stood up to the oppressors from the East
God bless and protect all our people in harms way where ever they are.
Pro Deo et Patria
 
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all i see is tibet monk burning building, beating people, smash stores. i call these activities criminal behaviors



I call it venting anger after years of repression.
This is good practice for the Chinese army, along with you I noticed Russia was all for China,If we don't get our A## out of the sling , the same will happen to the US one day.China is building , Military, Economy, population, space,and creating IOUs from the U.S., what are we doing ? standing by and letting them have what ever they want.they send us toxic toys, tainted medicine, and if we had any kind of inspection we probably would find many more things they send us that is not fit for rats.



let me know if you ever goto tibet than we can discuss this. i went there, has tibet friends here in state. and i'm positive that most tibet people are happy. chinese bring tons money to tibet, they know if the people living condition get better than everyone will be happy. if you look at current tibet vs other 3rd world coutries, burma, nepal, the youll know without chinese investment, tibet will just be a poor 3rd world country, and my tibet friend won't even has the chance come to US and study here.




My friend I don't have to go to tibet to know what suppression is , tell me would you want to be told what you can and can not read, see on the internet, criticize the government, or would you like to be free to do as you want in the frame work of law that civilized people live under.
I know what the Chinese do, I ran interference for the refugees leaving China to go to Formosa to be free.that was probably long before your time, whole family's perished trying to get away from suppression and live as free people. you think money buys everything. you take your dollar , I will take my freedom.
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all i see is tibet monk burning building, beating people, smash stores. i call these activities criminal behaviors



I call it venting anger after years of repression.
This is good practice for the Chinese army, along with you I noticed Russia was all for China,If we don't get our A## out of the sling , the same will happen to the US one day.China is building , Military, Economy, population, space,and creating IOUs from the U.S., what are we doing ? standing by and letting them have what ever they want.they send us toxic toys, tainted medicine, and if we had any kind of inspection we probably would find many more things they send us that is not fit for rats.



let me know if you ever goto tibet than we can discuss this. i went there, has tibet friends here in state. and i'm positive that most tibet people are happy. chinese bring tons money to tibet, they know if the people living condition get better than everyone will be happy. if you look at current tibet vs other 3rd world coutries, burma, nepal, the youll know without chinese investment, tibet will just be a poor 3rd world country, and my tibet friend won't even has the chance come to US and study here.




My friend I don't have to go to tibet to know what suppression is , tell me would you want to be told what you can and can not read, see on the internet, criticize the government, or would you like to be free to do as you want in the frame work of law that civilized people live under.
I know what the Chinese do, I ran interference for the refugees leaving China to go to Formosa to be free.that was probably long before your time, whole family's perished trying to get away from suppression and live as free people. you think money buys everything. you take your dollar , I will take my freedom.
Semper Fi


what year is that?? if you have the chance goto china now. if you have the chance ask a chinese oversea student here in the state about their country, instead judge them base on media report from CNN. ill bet the chinese here will give you a different perspective. again when a story is told you need listen to both side.
 
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all i see is tibet monk burning building, beating people, smash stores. i call these activities criminal behaviors



I call it venting anger after years of repression.
This is good practice for the Chinese army, along with you I noticed Russia was all for China,If we don't get our A## out of the sling , the same will happen to the US one day.China is building , Military, Economy, population, space,and creating IOUs from the U.S., what are we doing ? standing by and letting them have what ever they want.they send us toxic toys, tainted medicine, and if we had any kind of inspection we probably would find many more things they send us that is not fit for rats.



let me know if you ever goto tibet than we can discuss this. i went there, has tibet friends here in state. and i'm positive that most tibet people are happy. chinese bring tons money to tibet, they know if the people living condition get better than everyone will be happy. if you look at current tibet vs other 3rd world coutries, burma, nepal, the youll know without chinese investment, tibet will just be a poor 3rd world country, and my tibet friend won't even has the chance come to US and study here.



My friend I don't have to go to tibet to know what suppression is , tell me would you want to be told what you can and can not read, see on the internet, criticize the government, or would you like to be free to do as you want in the frame work of law that civilized people live under.
I know what the Chinese do, I ran interference for the refugees leaving China to go to Formosa to be free.that was probably long before your time, whole family's perished trying to get away from suppression and live as free people. you think money buys everything. you take your dollar , I will take my freedom.
Semper Fi



what year is that?? if you have the chance goto china now. if you have the chance ask a chinese oversea student here in the state about their country, instead judge them base on media report from CNN. ill bet the chinese here will give you a different perspective. again when a story is told you need listen to both side.[/quote]



Sir or mam
do you deny the fact that China is not a suppressed country ?
they regulate what you can see on the internet,they regulate the media, you are put to death for minor crimes, you can not speak out against the government.you can not listen to the music you might want to hear, that is regulated also. where is the freedom there ?
and of course a student here will give you a different story, they know better to tell other wise.and this is not just from CNN as you so well put it, it is from people that went there to do story's and to visit, but are told to delete there film.
Sure China has come a long way economically, and dose a tremendous business on the world market, but China today is the same China as yesterday.
 
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I can't understand people will tell all they think they know but will not tell anything about them self. I assume Wen Han is Chinese !are you ashamed to give a little info about your self , you have a name a lot to post , but nothing about your self.
your Bio is empty.If in fact you are Chinese I have no problem with you wanting to defend your homeland.
Oh and by the way that time period was in the early 50s.
yes long time ago, enough time for China to become some what of a free country , but they failed to do it even after 50 years.
after saying that we as Americans IMO have no right to tell another country how to run there own, as long as it dose not jeopardize the USA.
I see no problem trading with a country that has rules of its own even if those rules are suppressive,
I love my country the US of A and served and would defend her anytime, But I think we stick our nose in to many other countries business, we want to tell them they are wrong and yet we do a booming trade with them ( one sided trade by the way)
We need to care for our own before we tell others what to do.what would happen to China if for some reason imports were completely cut, down the tubes my friend, thats were China would go.we have a problem telling the dogs not to bite, but even when they do, we keep feeding them stakes.
and the pack keeps getting bigger and bigger and soon they will be throwing us bones.
my first question to you is, as big as China is as much as it has trouble caring for the 1.3 billion population , why do they want to keep Tibet anyway, and why do they want Formosa(Taiwan
all it does is increase there inability to care for more people and land, land that is not worth a whole lot.
to me this smells of world power. the more you got the bigger you are, that is the communist way. I have a lot of opinions some may agree with me , some may not it appears you are one in the not category.
so your statement when I go to Tibet we will discuss this is out of order, I probably forgot more then you know about other countries.
I respect your opinion , but don't lay all the blame on CNN.
 
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well i live in ohio, and i was born here. working with wright patt is that enough info for you?

I don't support chinese government but what i am presenting is fact on this particular situation in tibet, which IS A RIOT.

why don't you open ur mind and look at all the pictures etc. if you don't value my opinion least value another american opinion who has been there. period

here is his blog

http://kadfly.blogspot.com/

and i "I want to make one thing clear because all of the major news outlets are ignoring a very important fact. Yes, the Chinese government bears a huge amount of blame for this situation. But the protests yesterday were NOT peaceful"

ps don't judge others nationality base on the name. there are many american from middle east, asia, mexico, and other countries. just because i said the protest is a riot doesn't mean i support the government!!! i keep an open mind because i know alot people from different coutries in the university i attend to. i suggest u do the same.

also as far as i can tell i can access any western site in beijing last time i went there. cnn, cbs you name it. grant it, the government does block internet etc, and the government does control the media etc, but its much better compare to things decade ago. and i'm positive most chinese people i know are happy. the situation over there is improving, not as good as other western coutry, but improving, however slow it is.

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well i live in ohio, and i was born here. working with wright patt is that enough info for you?

I don't support chinese government but what i am presenting is fact on this particular situation in tibet, which IS A RIOT.

why don't you open ur mind and look at all the pictures etc. if you don't value my opinion least value another american opinion who has been there. period

here is his blog

http://kadfly.blogspot.com/

and i "I want to make one thing clear because all of the major news outlets are ignoring a very important fact. Yes, the Chinese government bears a huge amount of blame for this situation. But the protests yesterday were NOT peaceful"

ps don't judge others nationality base on the name. there are many american from middle east, asia, mexico, and other countries. just because i said the protest is a riot doesn't mean i support the government!!! i keep an open mind because i know alot people from different coutries in the university i attend to. i suggest u do the same.




OK sport you got it, but seems your the one with your mind not open. I tried to present the facts and opinions but you have it your way, thank you for your conversation,
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OK sport you got it, but seems your the one with your mind not open. I tried to present the facts and opinions but you have it your way, thank you for your conversation,
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well i did present video, pictures and other eyewitness account, correct? I didn't like china, i was a bit like you before. thinking all the negative stuff about china, but after meet some chinese friends, and other foreign friends, it change my attitude toward china abit.
 
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I was in China 3 times,not for awhile, but I was in Russia a couple times and a lot of Chinese are there, and nothing I have seen or heard about China has changed my thoughts toward it.The people in Russia can not stand the Chinese, it's a fact. and I was in Russia in 03 and 04.was in China in 56 and 57 I see nothing different today , except the large increase in trade. the Chinese people are fine , it's there government I don't like.face it, it is a communist country has been and always will be.
what ever your Chinese friends tell you , just remember they have to return to China, and they will not say anything bad. you say you are in a university , act like it, you need to know the difference in true words and words told to protect ons self.you really think a Chinese student will say anything bad about China , if you do you are very short sighted.
 
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