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Israel is trying to survive anomg a "sea" of nations that are sworn to destroy them and kill all Jews.

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Originally posted by pelsar:

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Face the facts Israel purposely and deliberately hosed down that ship with machine gun fire and other ordnance.

yes the IAF did shoot up the liberty...but just the fact that two flights of jets did not carry the proper ordinance to actually sink her (a couple of 500lb bombs would have done the job in mere minutes) shows that it was not planned attack but one of "opportunity."

the kind of thing that has been happening since modern warefare began, including american and british aircraft shooting up their own during WWII. (on much slower aircraft) up to the gulf war

The liberty survivors would have no special knowledge of what the pilots knew or saw, they would just know they were attacked by the IAF.

and the israeli govt admitted the mistake and paid out compensation.

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Originally posted by PANZER247:

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Israel is trying to survive anomg a "sea" of nations that are sworn to destroy them and kill all Jews.

Can this quote above be considered anti-Arab?

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Hey Pelsar, long time no hear, glad you are alive and well.
Hope you can be understanding of the fact that the sailors on the U.S.S. Liberty, have some hard feelings, I mean if someone drops ordnance on your head, no matter who it is, you will have a tendency to be a whole bunch P.O.'d about it...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by pelsar:

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Hey Pelsar, long time no hear, glad you are alive and well.
Hope you can be understanding of the fact that the sailors on the U.S.S. Liberty, have some hard feelings, I mean if someone drops ordnance on your head, no matter who it is, you will have a tendency to be a whole bunch P.O.'d about it...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

been playing at the democraticunderground...a real fun bunch over there.


....as far as how the liberty survivors feel....i understand completely, and would be just as pissed as they are.

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Originally posted by popsiq:
In the light of 'taking out their nuclear hoard' stories coming out now. The Syrians should have put a couple of dozen Scuds into Tel Aviv. That would have been the Israeli thing to do. They're 'used to' rockets and they might respect that.

The rest of the Arab world would have noticed.

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Originally posted by PanzerMeister:

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Originally posted by popsiq:
In the light of 'taking out their nuclear hoard' stories coming out now. The Syrians should have put a couple of dozen Scuds into Tel Aviv. That would have been the Israeli thing to do. They're 'used to' rockets and they might respect that.

The rest of the Arab world would have noticed.

The result of such action would have brought war, in which Assad could find himself dethroned and maybe dead, and defeated Syria in ruins.

If you hate Israel say so.
"Israeli thing to do". You have leveled Afghan for 1 terror attack (as horrible as it was), whereas we suffer Syrian idiocy and terror from 1948.

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Originally posted by popsiq:
In the light of 'taking out their nuclear hoard' stories coming out now. The Syrians should have put a couple of dozen Scuds into Tel Aviv. That would have been the Israeli thing to do. They're 'used to' rockets and they might respect that.

The rest of the Arab world would have noticed.

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Originally posted by tuffgrunt77:
For the facts on the Liberty attack, go to the website, ussliberty.org. At this website, you will find a report submitted to congress on behalf of the surviving crewmen from the U.S.S. Liberty.

Contained in this report, you will find the analysis and conclusion reached by a committee that was headed up by the following people:
Admiral Thomas H. Moorer,USN ret.,
Fmr. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

General Raymond G. Davis,
Fmr. Commodant USMC

Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, USN ret.
Fmr. Judge Advocate General, USN

The report was generated in 2003. The report states that the Israelis had the USS Liberty under visual surveilance for over eight hours prior to the attack. The ship was strafed and hit by rockets from several Israeli aircraft that made multiple sorties during the attack. Israeli torpedo boats fired several torpedos, some of which struck the Liberty. The torpedo boats subsequently machine gunned sailors trying to rescue wounded sailors. These same torpedo boats fired their machine guns into lifeboats that were being lower into the water and other lifeboats on the ship. The Libery was also hit with napalm and the communication antennas were purposely targeted to prevent outgoing distress calls.

These highly respected and qualified military officers concluded that the attack on the USS Liberty was done so deliberately and knowlingly that the USS Liberty was a USN intelligence gathering ship.

Read the report to get a more detailed insight into the events that took place during the attack on the USS Liberty.

The report concluded that the incident was a deliberate attack on a clearly identified USN vessel. And that the attack was tantamount to murder. They said that the Liberty was a state of the art intelligence ship, unlike any ship in the Arab navies.

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Originally posted by SP_Five_O:

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Originally posted by popsiq:
In the light of 'taking out their nuclear hoard' stories coming out now. The Syrians should have put a couple of dozen Scuds into Tel Aviv. That would have been the Israeli thing to do. They're 'used to' rockets and they might respect that.

The rest of the Arab world would have noticed.

That would have triggered an Israeli response that Syria would have regretted, as well as Iran when Israel was finished with Syria, they would have crippled Iran. Is the US going to be a panty waste just like they were in the Six Day War when Johnson stood cowardly away making our country look stupid. If we had been in the action, actually kicking the Arab nations' anuses for attacking Israel, a UN member, the Middle East would be different today. It would probably have been more closely related to Germany and Japan under the Marshall Plan.

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Originally posted by popsiq:
In the light of 'taking out their nuclear hoard' stories coming out now. The Syrians should have put a couple of dozen Scuds into Tel Aviv. That would have been the Israeli thing to do. They're 'used to' rockets and they might respect that.

The rest of the Arab world would have noticed.