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"without causing any human or material damage"

This doesn't sound like the Israeli AF to me! If the Isreali's really meant business, this statemnet wouldn't be in the story, it would read more like "Holy crap, they bombed the Behjesus out of us again!.
As for the airspace incursion, well those two have been going @ it for some time now, particularly since Syria has control over many of the terrorist groups that are in Lebaanon, & Palestine.
So, it was either a mistake(which I doubt),or a indirect warning to the Syrians, similar to when the Isreali jets buzzed Damascus during the last operation against Hezbollah in 2006.
 
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What is this crap with the site automatically putting links ion our text now?
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Reagan didn't bring down the wall. It fail because we out spent them for 30 plus years. When they tried to keep up with us the gutted their economy. And I never saw Reagan running a boarder trace or going eye to eye with the Russians. That was alot of Cold War warriors doing that and alot of Administrations, both Republican and Democrat, who stood firm. Reagen just ahppened to be in office when it came down. If the Russians had held out a little longer it would have been Bush I or Clinton.

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I know it is hard to accept the fact that Reagan
accomplished so much, and made this country "A Shining City on a Hill" and destroyed the "Evil Empire"

The Reagan years were the best I can remember in my many years here on the earth. We were proud to be Americans, and some of us still are,
We had a positive attitude, things were good, especially after what Carter had done to us in the previous years.
Like 21% interest rates, gas lines at the service stations. Giving away the Panama Canal, deposing the Shaw of Iran, (and causing the current problem we are having with the terrorists)
Iran Hostages.....

All I can say is bring back the Reagan type administration. Maybe Fred Thompson or Mit Romney can take us back there, where we can be a proud Nation again.

If we stay on our current course, we will have much adversity to face in the future, and if we go with the liberals in the next election, I am afraid that we are on a path of destruction.

We Need Another Reagan!
 
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What is this crap with the site automatically putting links ion our text now?
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huh i dont see it..????
 
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Anyways, hope the Syrian gunners score a hit next time Wink


Yeah! Maybe Assad!! Big Grin
 
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Well, it will teach the Israelis that there is a price to be paid for intentionally VIOLATING the airspace of another sovereign nation.


Do you feel the same way about how Syria has violated Lebanon for years & years? Or are you rants strictly anti-semetic? Roll Eyes
 
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What is this crap with the site automatically putting links ion our text now?
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huh i dont see it..????


Certain words such as Syria arewere being automatically linked? Now they have shut it off.

Check "Tac's" post at the top of page 2 you will see what I mean.

Many branches but one brotherhood!
 
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What is this crap with the site automatically putting links ion our text now?
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Mulder, have Chief's coffee checked. Big Grin

huh i dont see it..????


Certain words such as Syria are being automatically linked?

Many branches but one brotherhood!
 
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What is this crap with the site automatically putting links ion our text now?
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Mulder, have Chief's coffee checked. Big Grin

huh i dont see it..????


Certain words such as Syria are being automatically linked?

Many branches but one brotherhood!


Mornin' Matt, see my preceding post for explanation.

Many branches but one brotherhood!
 
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If Syria shoots our jets while we invade their Air space, then indeed we have no reason to complain.

I want to see them doing it first. Big Grin

By the way, Phoenix- Harboring HAMAS (who's credo is to kill us all) in Damascus, how do you call that? Act of Peace?
 
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This article was really filled with so much information and quote from unofficial speakers. It seems to me that someone, maybe Syria, is trying to start something. One of the major problems in the Middle East is knowone respects the rights of other nations or themselves. There was some news a few months ago that Syria and Isreal may go to the table for discussions of some sort of peace between the two countries. It was Syria that has been hedging on the meetings......because of their involvement with Palestine radicals. They would be accused of playing both sides by the Isrealise. I really think that Syria is just trying to be placed, at this time, and the poor underdog that has had thier face slapped. In reality, NOT.
 
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This really was a poorly-written article. At the end of the day, who knows what happened.

Could've been Israel "warning" Syria. Could've been Israeli jets got lost and wandered a little across the line.

The "dropped ammunition" was never collected, or else the Syrians would have stated what it exactly was. So, in all likelihood, the jets were supersonic and the Syrians assumed it was ordnance exploding in the distance.

All this being said, at the end of the day, you didn't see the Syrian Air Force go aloft looking for a fight.

The Israeli Air Force would have spanked 'em... bad.
 
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"without causing any human or material damage"

This doesn't sound like the Israeli AF to me! If the Isreali's really meant business, this statemnet wouldn't be in the story, it would read more like "Holy crap, they bombed the Behjesus out of us again!.
As for the airspace incursion, well those two have been going @ it for some time now, particularly since Syria has control over many of the terrorist groups that are in Lebaanon, & Palestine.
So, it was either a mistake(which I doubt),or a indirect warning to the Syrians, similar to when the Isreali jets buzzed Damascus during the last operation against Hezbollah in 2006.


Yeah, they buzzed Damascus, and caused just about as much damage to them as they did against Hezbollah (that would be "not much"). The vaunted IAF is quite possibly the most over-rated Air Force on the planet, and even the Israelis know it. Yeah, how did that 2006 operation against Hezbollah go? I guess all that bombing convinced Hezzy to give back those captured IDF troops. Oh, wait...
 
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Anyways, hope the Syrian gunners score a hit next time Wink

wow what a thing to say about our country s ally ..... yea i know you are no friend of Israel but to say you hope an ally (and they are according to our gov)of us gets hit next time.... welll thats way out there.... but i have come to expect that from you anyways... wow crazy...


If Israel is our ally, they sure have a funny way of showing it.
 
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All this being said, at the end of the day, you didn't see the Syrian Air Force go aloft looking for a fight.

The Israeli Air Force would have spanked 'em... bad.


Yeah, just like they spanked Lebanon? The IAF could've saved money on bombs and probably been more effective if they just dropped porno mags on the Hezbollah troops to distract them.
 
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Wow! Hitler would have been proud of some of the anti-Israeli remarks here. So would Osama!

Obviously some of you KIDS are too young to remember when we regularly "violated" Russian and Chinese airspace (SR-71 & U-2). They even shot one down (Gary Powers). We didn't go to war over it because that's how the game is played.
I think this is a trumped up article. You can't drop munitions while in Mach mode. The only munition you pepper over a deserted area would be landmines. Not likely because the Israelis might have to cross that area if Syria is stupid enough to attck them.

The IAF is "overated"? You don't know much about their history, do you?

"If Israel is our ally, they sure have a funny way of showing it." How so? By not walking lockstep with everything Washington tells them, the way all the arab countries fall in line behind the "Death to Israel" mantra?

Do you suppose we'd have a different attitude towards illegal immigrants if Mexico had a similar hatred towards the U.S.?

The Israelis thrive in the midst of a region overwhelmingly bent on their destruction. Why? Because they know their enemy and keep an eye on him!

We could learn from them!
 
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probably been more effective if they just dropped porno mags on the Hezbollah troops to distract them.



Nah! Have you seen "Off to War" on the Military Channel. One group of soldiers raided an insurgent's home and found boxes of porn. They referred to them as "porn dogs" and commented on them being so-called "good muslims".
Some of these "good muslims" went to the same college I did. They made a sport of purchasing the affections of "big breasted American b__ches" with gold bobbles and fancy cars. Fortunately, there were some girls with higher morals, and I did see a couple of them get their sandy a__es whipped for making advances on the wrong girl. And...the girls they DID..uh...get where given unkind labels.

Now, if we droped Paris Hilton and Britany Spears on them that would be a distraction to them and would improve the culture here.
 
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Yeah, just like they spanked Lebanon? The IAF could've saved money on bombs and probably been more effective if they just dropped porno mags on the Hezbollah troops to distract them.


Apples and oranges, dude.

Israel lost on the ground. The IAF did not have an opponent in Lebanon, as Hezbollah does not have an Air Force.

The IAF is FAR from over-rated. Just ask Jordanian, Egyptian, and Syrian fighter pilots who've flown against them. I'll have to look this one up, but I'd be willing to bet that the IAF have NEVER lost a combat aircraft in aerial combat. To SAM's and AAA, yes. To an Arab fighter, no.

Pointing out the obvious to you... the Syrian Air Force stayed on the GROUND during this "incident". Had they come up for a fight, they would have lost.

Guaranteed.
 
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Looked it up. The IAF have lost planes in aerial combat against the Arabs, but the kill ratio is still staggering... read on.

Six Day War: IAF destroys the ENTIRE Egyptian Air Force in three hours. Within twenty-four hours, the ENTIRE Syrian and Jordanian Air Forces cease to exist. At the end of the war, IAF had shot down 451 enemy planes at a loss of 19 of its own.

Yom Kippur War: IAF shoots down 277 enemy planes. IAF also wipes out the Syrian General Staff in a precision airstrike.

1982 Lebanon War: Israel eliminates the Syrian air-defense system. 80 Syrian jets are shot down with NO Israeli losses.

2006 Lebanon War: IAF shoots down three Hezbollah drones.

In the inter-war years, IAF pilots have shot down 111 Arab planes with a loss of 4 Israeli planes. One highlight occured in July 1970 in which SOVIET-PILOTED MiGs tangled with IAF pilots. Five of the MiGs were shot down with no IAF losses.

Not too shabby.
 
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Reagan didn't bring down the wall. It fail because we out spent them for 30 plus years. When they tried to keep up with us the gutted their economy. And I never saw Reagan running a boarder trace or going eye to eye with the Russians. That was alot of Cold War warriors doing that and alot of Administrations, both Republican and Democrat, who stood firm. Reagen just ahppened to be in office when it came down. If the Russians had held out a little longer it would have been Bush I or Clinton.


SSG CODER, you should have been around during Carter's Administration... Our military as a whole were down on both knees, WE were at our worst "Readiness for War" since 1930's!!!

Does anyone that served 1977-1981 timeframe remember: The post-Vietnam drawdown ("Peace Dividend"), Hostage Crisis in Iran, "Honest" Operational Readiness Reports of Equipment at less than 50% capability, Ammunition Contracts Expired - thus Arms Rooms rarely issued weapons for livefires...
 
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