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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:
Why do some of you continue to take the Obama position without even looking for the facts yourself. An Obama news outlet, The Huffington Post, has posted an article today that says the Obama administration has known of the possible dismissal of Zelaya for at least 2 weeks when they discovered Honduras' Attorney General Luis Alberto Rubi had started an investigation concerning corruption, fraud and abuse of power.
Yesterday, Zelaya was charged on 18 counts and a warrant exists for his arrest. Rubi also said that Honduras' prosecutors had warned Zelaya that he was acting illegally and that they would take appropriate measures. This was as far back as a month ago.
Try watching or reading some news that actually comes out of Honduras and not the drivel coming from the 2 faced, lying US administration.

The government in Honduras is intact and functioning, just without Zelaya. Nothing else has changed. They have legally and constitutionally removed a criminal from office.

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Don't you trust them?

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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Don't you trust them?

About as much as I trust Obama ... and his media-managing White House staff ... which is to say, I don't trust that which I can't verify. Apparently nor does Helen Thomas ... who thinks Obama's press staff should "be hanging their heads in shame" ...

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Another case of a so called conservative WHINING about how the big bad media BUSINESSES are being mean to them and saying the reason they lost was because the media helped their opponent so they don't have to admit the reason they lost was because their leadership FAILED and then tried to blame it all on others.

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:
Dave

The first act of the Clinton White was to summon hundreds of files from the FBI under the guise of security. Had nothing to do with it. First hand knowledge on my part.

Nixon using the FBI and IRS wasn't exactly new. Try reading the history of JFK and the other Johnson.

Andrew Johnson was in way over his head and in more dodo than both of the ego maniac that came later. But his was a much harder row to hoe. Doubt if you would have fared any better, especially with the Congress he had. It's not always good to be king.

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
The Government of Honduras still exists. The Military has supported their Congress and Courts and prevented a leftist-style power grab by Zelaya. That is something all the members of OAS should support as it keeps a democratically elected government instead of a possible dictatorship. A dictatorship with props and lights of a democracy is still a dictatorship when the President is too powerful.

It is interesting to note the many people posting here who are in agreement with the leftist style of government takeover.
It is just as interesting that our President is of the same heart.

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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Another case of a so called conservative WHINING about how the big bad media BUSINESSES are being mean to them and saying the reason they lost was because the media helped their opponent so they don't have to admit the reason they lost was because their leadership FAILED and then tried to blame it all on others.

Helen Thomas is a conservative? You've got to be kidding me ... funniest thing I've read today. Don't think she's whining about media businesses either ... unless that is how you are characterizing the Obama White House ...

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
The Government of Honduras still exists. The Military has supported their Congress and Courts and prevented a leftist-style power grab by Zelaya. That is something all the members of OAS should support as it keeps a democratically elected government instead of a possible dictatorship. A dictatorship with props and lights of a democracy is still a dictatorship when the President is too powerful.

It is interesting to note the many people posting here who are in agreement with the leftist style of government takeover.
It is just as interesting that our President is of the same heart.

And a good thing the dictators didn't take over in Iran! A CIA plot to discredit the legitimate government, even shooting people down in the street to attempt to blame the fairly elected President, our hero Ahmadinajad.

Yup, in Honduras they acted just in the nick of time to prevent a non binding referendum to see what the public thought. We sure wouldn't want to find out what the people actually thought - Certainly not in a Democracy! The sure sign of a dictatorship is a referendum. You betcha!

Dave

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
The Government of Honduras still exists. The Military has supported their Congress and Courts and prevented a leftist-style power grab by Zelaya. That is something all the members of OAS should support as it keeps a democratically elected government instead of a possible dictatorship. A dictatorship with props and lights of a democracy is still a dictatorship when the President is too powerful.

It is interesting to note the many people posting here who are in agreement with the leftist style of government takeover.
It is just as interesting that our President is of the same heart.

And a good thing the dictators didn't take over in Iran! A CIA plot to discredit the legitimate government, even shooting people down in the street to attempt to blame the fairly elected President, our hero Ahmadinajad.

Yup, in Honduras they acted just in the nick of time to prevent a non binding referendum to see what the public thought. We sure wouldn't want to find out what the people actually thought - Certainly not in a Democracy! The sure sign of a dictatorship is a referendum. You betcha!

Dave

You're usually a little more rational than the above. Don't tell us you've been drinking out of the toilet again???????

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
The Government of Honduras still exists. The Military has supported their Congress and Courts and prevented a leftist-style power grab by Zelaya. That is something all the members of OAS should support as it keeps a democratically elected government instead of a possible dictatorship. A dictatorship with props and lights of a democracy is still a dictatorship when the President is too powerful.

It is interesting to note the many people posting here who are in agreement with the leftist style of government takeover.
It is just as interesting that our President is of the same heart.

And a good thing the dictators didn't take over in Iran! A CIA plot to discredit the legitimate government, even shooting people down in the street to attempt to blame the fairly elected President, our hero Ahmadinajad.

Yup, in Honduras they acted just in the nick of time to prevent a non binding referendum to see what the public thought. We sure wouldn't want to find out what the people actually thought - Certainly not in a Democracy! The sure sign of a dictatorship is a referendum. You betcha!

Dave

You're usually a little more rational than the above. Don't tell us you've been drinking out of the toilet again???????

Gosh Ray, here I am agreeing with you...

A sure sign of Democracy is to bundle your elected President off in the Middle of the Night; no need to debate the question. And then the next day, after jailing opposition members of Congress, "announce" that the Supreme Court ordered his removal.

Not to mention the importance of shutting down the opposition press, and limiting television and radio to playing sopa operas and cooking shows.

By golly, exactly the way we got rid of Nixon and Clinton. Sore heads whine and snivel about what THEY would call a military putch, with all the typical hallmarks of a bunch of crazed Fascists.

And then there's the whole gamut of intellectual integrity being shown in this thread. Aside from calling for a non-binding referendum, what exactly has this, dare I say "Communist" done?

Well nothing actually, but everyone does cite what Castro has done. And of course Castro AND Chavez have called this a military coup. Oddly none of those who justify this care to mention that a hell of a lot more people than Castro and Chavez call this a coup.

Who knew for example that the Extreme Right Wing President of Columnia, Uribe was really a Communist as well?

Andn I gotta salute the cartoon of Castro, Chavez and Obama depicted as vultures. Man, now ain't that honest, or what? Left out the rest of the flock, but hey, ink doesn't grow on trees!

And now we have little Rush Limbaugh calling for the same thing to happen here - In the name of "Freedom" of course - Musn't leave that out. I mean, just what kind of free country is it if you can't arbitrarily over throw the government? What's all this voter crap anyway?

Dave

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:



Your arguements were weak to begin with, the marxist quartet have ruined their countries and now after fifteen explanations that zeyala was the ho of Chavez you continue to rant on a non binding vote. There is no such thing, but you're still trying to manuever.

Changing the subject to Uribe is completely transparent. Only because your leader in the House refuses to recognize a "binding" agreement of free trade with Columbia, George Bush endorsed it.

Uribe the only repeat President Columbia has had. Overcoming drug traffikers, terrorist that still hold 60 or so hostages. What is your point? Ahh, he wouldn't bow to your bossman Hugo. He showed the world how Hugo was the traffic cop of drugs, endorser of the terrorist FARC and of course friend of another cop out on your part, the Iranians. Not too brilliant.

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:



Your arguements were weak to begin with, the marxist quartet have ruined their countries and now after fifteen explanations that zeyala was the ho of Chavez you continue to rant on a non binding vote. There is no such thing, but you're still trying to manuever.

Changing the subject to Uribe is completely transparent. Only because your leader in the House refuses to recognize a "binding" agreement of free trade with Columbia, George Bush endorsed it.

Uribe the only repeat President Columbia has had. Overcoming drug traffikers, terrorist that still hold 60 or so hostages. What is your point? Ahh, he wouldn't bow to your bossman Hugo. He showed the world how Hugo was the traffic cop of drugs, endorser of the terrorist FARC and of course friend of another cop out on your part, the Iranians. Not too brilliant.

- Thanks again Ray for making my point.

Dave