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Originally posted by LineDoggie:
XXXhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB124640649700876791.htmlXXX

The Wages of Chavismo
The Honduran coup is a reaction to Chávez's rule by the mob.

As military "coups" go, the one this weekend in Honduras was strangely, well, democratic.

The military didn't oust President Manuel Zelaya on its own but instead followed an order of the Supreme Court. It also quickly turned power over to the president of the Honduran Congress, a man from the same party as Mr. Zelaya. The legislature and legal authorities all remain intact.......

.........We mention these not so small details because they are being overlooked as the world, including the U.S. President, denounces tiny Honduras in a way that it never has, say, Iran. President Obama is joining the U.N., Fidel Castro, Hugo Chávez and other model democrats in demanding that Mr. Zelaya be allowed to return from exile and restored to power. Maybe it's time to sort the real from the phony Latin American democrats.........


.........The attorney general and Honduran courts declared the vote illegal and warned he'd be prosecuted if he followed through.

Mr. Zelaya persisted, even leading a violent mob last week to seize and distribute ballots imported from Venezuela.......

.......In Honduras Mr. Chávez funneled Veneuzelan oil money to help Mr. Zelaya win in 2005, and Mr. Zelaya has veered increasingly left in his four-year term. The Honduran constitution limits presidents to a single term, which is scheduled to end in January. Mr. Zelaya was using the extralegal referendum as an act of political intimidation to force the Congress to allow a rewrite of the constitution so he could retain power......


......Such populist intimidation has worked elsewhere in the region, and Hondurans are understandably afraid that, backed by Chávez agents and money, it could lead to similar antidemocratic subversion there. In Tegucigalpa yesterday, thousands demonstrated against Mr. Zelaya, and new deputy foreign minister Marta Lorena Casco told the crowd that "Chávez consumed Venezuela, then Bolivia, after that Ecuador and Nicaragua, but in Honduras that didn't happen."

We recall when the Clinton Administration restored Bertrand Aristide to Haiti, only to have the country descend into anarchy.

As for the Obama Administration, it seems eager to "meddle" in Honduras in a way Mr. Obama claimed was counterproductive in Iran. Yet the stolen election in Iran was a far clearer subversion of democracy than the coup in Honduras

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... overthrown by an Origarthy ...

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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... overthrown by an Origarthy ...

I give up ... what/who is an "Origarthy"? The closest definition I can find is "a brainless liberal" ... but surely you didn't intend that.

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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... overthrown by an Origarthy ...

I give up ... what/who is an "Origarthy"? The closest definition I can find is "a brainless liberal" ... but surely you didn't intend that.

And I know you didn't intend to make another petty personal insult...

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Origarthy

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:


Very good report.


Hundreds demonstrate for Zeyala return, tens of thousands say good riddance.

Interest that the same crowd that wanted the head of the past President Bush of the U S on a spike because they thought he broke a law, maybe, well the ACLU says he did, now defends one that is truly a dictator, conspiring with foreign sources to usurp the law he swore to uphold. I wonder if the same crowd disagrees with the Supreme court of Minnesota decree that the election is finally over for their Senator?

"http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN29384895

If Secretary of State or the President is serious then by all means restrict, deny, cut off relations completely with these very independent people. The amount of aid is being determined in our Congress. Personally, the few millions in aid to Honduras doesn't come close of the lesson of true democracy is all about, really deserving a bonus for teaching us what we should be preaching, not stalling. Picture a coup in Venezuela tomorrow morning. I for one would be celebrating in the streets. A President or any official elected has the prime resonsibility of the security of the nation and the well being of the citizens. Zelaya was thinking of himself.

Closer to home, Zelaya example is being followed. Another half million U S citizens lost their jobs while the stimulus goes as down payments on votes in Congress.

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:

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Origarthy

ol·i·gar·chy (l-gärk, l-) KEY

NOUN:
pl. ol·i·gar·chies

Government by a few, especially by a small faction of persons or families.
Those making up such a government.
A state governed by a few persons.



I took it as a misspell:

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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... overthrown by an Origarthy ...

I give up ... what/who is an "Origarthy"? The closest definition I can find is "a brainless liberal" ... but surely you didn't intend that.

And I know you didn't intend to make another petty personal insult...

LOL ... if the shoe fits, wear it Motive ...

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Originally posted by Anbar7:
WHO THE HELL IS OBAMA TO SAY WHO IS PRESIDENT OF WHAT COUNTRY. NOBODY THAT IS WHO.

We have enough problems here in the States and he is trying to dictate who is president of another country. Not within his bounds.

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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... overthrown by an Origarthy ...

I give up ... what/who is an "Origarthy"? The closest definition I can find is "a brainless liberal" ... but surely you didn't intend that.

And I know you didn't intend to make another petty personal insult...

LOL ... if the shoe fits, wear it Motive ...

I'm not the one wearing the warning from Nemesis.

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:


Very good report.


Hundreds demonstrate for Zeyala return, tens of thousands say good riddance.

Interest that the same crowd that wanted the head of the past President Bush of the U S on a spike because they thought he broke a law, maybe, well the ACLU says he did, now defends one that is truly a dictator, conspiring with foreign sources to usurp the law he swore to uphold. I wonder if the same crowd disagrees with the Supreme court of Minnesota decree that the election is finally over for their Senator?

"http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN29384895

If Secretary of State or the President is serious then by all means restrict, deny, cut off relations completely with these very independent people. The amount of aid is being determined in our Congress. Personally, the few millions in aid to Honduras doesn't come close of the lesson of true democracy is all about, really deserving a bonus for teaching us what we should be preaching, not stalling. Picture a coup in Venezuela tomorrow morning. I for one would be celebrating in the streets. A President or any official elected has the prime resonsibility of the security of the nation and the well being of the citizens. Zelaya was thinking of himself.

Closer to home, Zelaya example is being followed. Another half million U S citizens lost their jobs while the stimulus goes as down payments on votes in Congress.

Well, you covered quite a bit of ground in your little rant. But you left out the little part about the birth certificate and the Vincent Foster "suicide".

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Originally posted by LineDoggie:

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:


Very good report.


Hundreds demonstrate for Zeyala return, tens of thousands say good riddance.

Interest that the same crowd that wanted the head of the past President Bush of the U S on a spike because they thought he broke a law, maybe, well the ACLU says he did, now defends one that is truly a dictator, conspiring with foreign sources to usurp the law he swore to uphold. I wonder if the same crowd disagrees with the Supreme court of Minnesota decree that the election is finally over for their Senator?

"http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN29384895

If Secretary of State or the President is serious then by all means restrict, deny, cut off relations completely with these very independent people. The amount of aid is being determined in our Congress. Personally, the few millions in aid to Honduras doesn't come close of the lesson of true democracy is all about, really deserving a bonus for teaching us what we should be preaching, not stalling. Picture a coup in Venezuela tomorrow morning. I for one would be celebrating in the streets. A President or any official elected has the prime resonsibility of the security of the nation and the well being of the citizens. Zelaya was thinking of himself.

Closer to home, Zelaya example is being followed. Another half million U S citizens lost their jobs while the stimulus goes as down payments on votes in Congress.

Well, you covered quite a bit of ground in your little rant. But you left out the little part about the birth certificate and the Vincent Foster "suicide".

Did he mention the Leftist rants here? rants about FEMA death Camps, Bush did 9-11, Bush invokes martial Law, Bush Shreds the constitution, Bush Killed 4,000 G.I.'s for Oil, Bush invades Iran, Bush sends ordinary citizens to GITMO, Bush ordered Abu-Ghraib, Bush starts the Draft, Bush Comes from a Family of Nazi's or Nazi Sympathizers, Bush Deliberately let New Orleans got hit by Katrina, Bush, Bush, bush, Bush, Bush..............


Leftists got Bush on the Brain (to go along with the water).

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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... overthrown by an Origarthy ...

I give up ... what/who is an "Origarthy"? The closest definition I can find is "a brainless liberal" ... but surely you didn't intend that.

And I know you didn't intend to make another petty personal insult...

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by LineDoggie:

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Originally posted by Motive25:

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:


Very good report.


Hundreds demonstrate for Zeyala return, tens of thousands say good riddance.

Interest that the same crowd that wanted the head of the past President Bush of the U S on a spike because they thought he broke a law, maybe, well the ACLU says he did, now defends one that is truly a dictator, conspiring with foreign sources to usurp the law he swore to uphold. I wonder if the same crowd disagrees with the Supreme court of Minnesota decree that the election is finally over for their Senator?

"http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN29384895

If Secretary of State or the President is serious then by all means restrict, deny, cut off relations completely with these very independent people. The amount of aid is being determined in our Congress. Personally, the few millions in aid to Honduras doesn't come close of the lesson of true democracy is all about, really deserving a bonus for teaching us what we should be preaching, not stalling. Picture a coup in Venezuela tomorrow morning. I for one would be celebrating in the streets. A President or any official elected has the prime resonsibility of the security of the nation and the well being of the citizens. Zelaya was thinking of himself.

Closer to home, Zelaya example is being followed. Another half million U S citizens lost their jobs while the stimulus goes as down payments on votes in Congress.

Well, you covered quite a bit of ground in your little rant. But you left out the little part about the birth certificate and the Vincent Foster "suicide".

Did he mention the Leftist rants here? rants about FEMA death Camps, Bush did 9-11, Bush invokes martial Law, Bush Shreds the constitution, Bush Killed 4,000 G.I.'s for Oil, Bush invades Iran, Bush sends ordinary citizens to GITMO, Bush ordered Abu-Ghraib, Bush starts the Draft, Bush Comes from a Family of Nazi's or Nazi Sympathizers, Bush Deliberately let New Orleans got hit by Katrina, Bush, Bush, bush, Bush, Bush..............


Leftists got Bush on the Brain (to go along with the water).

Left brain= Bush. Right brain= Obama.

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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:

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Originally posted by Anbar7:
WHO THE HELL IS OBAMA TO SAY WHO IS PRESIDENT OF WHAT COUNTRY. NOBODY THAT IS WHO.

We have enough problems here in the States and he is trying to dictate who is president of another country. Not within his bounds.

When a person wants to be king of the world, that person thinks his opinion is all that matters.

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Originally posted by rayld2:

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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:

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Originally posted by Anbar7:
WHO THE HELL IS OBAMA TO SAY WHO IS PRESIDENT OF WHAT COUNTRY. NOBODY THAT IS WHO.

We have enough problems here in the States and he is trying to dictate who is president of another country. Not within his bounds.

When a person wants to be king of the world, that person thinks his opinion is all that matters.

Another person letting hate override the FACT that by US LAW (treaties are US law) the US is REQUIRED to oppose the overthrow of any elected government. Add in the FACT you are ignoring that ALL members of the OAS have opposed this (as REQUIRED by OAS charter) overthrow and that the UN has opposed it and it is obvious YOU don't let facts get in the way of attacking people.

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Originally posted by rayld2:

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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:

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Originally posted by Anbar7:
WHO THE HELL IS OBAMA TO SAY WHO IS PRESIDENT OF WHAT COUNTRY. NOBODY THAT IS WHO.

We have enough problems here in the States and he is trying to dictate who is president of another country. Not within his bounds.

When a person wants to be king of the world, that person thinks his opinion is all that matters.

Another person letting hate override the FACT that by US LAW (treaties are US law) the US is REQUIRED to oppose the overthrow of any elected government. Add in the FACT you are ignoring that ALL members of the OAS have opposed this (as REQUIRED by OAS charter) overthrow and that the UN has opposed it and it is obvious YOU don't let facts get in the way of attacking people.

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Originally posted by rayld2:

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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:

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Originally posted by Anbar7:
WHO THE HELL IS OBAMA TO SAY WHO IS PRESIDENT OF WHAT COUNTRY. NOBODY THAT IS WHO.

We have enough problems here in the States and he is trying to dictate who is president of another country. Not within his bounds.

When a person wants to be king of the world, that person thinks his opinion is all that matters.

Another person letting hate override the FACT that by US LAW (treaties are US law) the US is REQUIRED to oppose the overthrow of any elected government. Add in the FACT you are ignoring that ALL members of the OAS have opposed this (as REQUIRED by OAS charter) overthrow and that the UN has opposed it and it is obvious YOU don't let facts get in the way of attacking people.