http://military-entertainment....lil-wayne.html?wh=wh

No prior convictions, never been in any type of trouble. The answer looks painfully obvious.

What was so questionable about the traffic stop? And the gun was concealed. That's illegal unless you have the proper license. And buying guns from undercover agents? Why didn't he go to a gun store?

Don't know who Lil Wayne is ... but ... he "pleaded guilty". Hard to defend someone that admits to breaking the law.

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:
Don't know who Lil Wayne is ... but ... he "pleaded guilty". Hard to defend someone that admits to breaking the law.

He's a terrible musician who is rich because the majority of America's youth are slightly dumber than he is. And I agree, he pleaded guilty. F him.

According to your link he had drug related charges in Arizona and he had a concealed gun. He even admits that it was a stupid thing and he had only himself to blame. So why are you attempting to make this something it isn't? He broke laws and he has maned up to that fact.

I will simply say that I believe the NY law and ANY law that prevents a citizen from carrying a firearm should be unconstitutional, period.

That being said, until that NY law is overturned it is the law and law abiding citizens should follow it.

Mr. Wayne clearly broke that law and plead guilty, meaning he KNEW what he did was wrong.

So what's your point Lee, other than to race bait?

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... because the majority of America's youth are slightly dumber than he is ...

Thanks for that, KoRnAdvocate ... was worth the keyboard!

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Originally posted by jack_flats:
http://military-entertainment....lil-wayne.html?wh=wh

No prior convictions, never been in any type of trouble. The answer looks painfully obvious.

jack_flats, what is painfully obvious to you?

This isn't a 2nd amendment issue. He broke the law of the State of New york.

Sounds like you are trying to bait to me.

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Originally posted by shuman14:
I will simply say that I believe the NY law and ANY law that prevents a citizen from carrying a firearm should be unconstitutional, period.

That being said, until that NY law is overturned it is the law and law abiding citizens should follow it.

Mr. Wayne clearly broke that law and plead guilty, meaning he KNEW what he did was wrong.

So what's your point Lee, other than to race bait?

Race bait? You wish. This is a mil.com story that begs that exact question.

"Where is the outrage from the 2nd Amendment types, the NRA, etc, who, would be all over this on behalf of this man if L'il Wayne wasn't a black male." That is the "obvious" part of the story. The story behind this story. The 800 lb gorilla sitting in the corner of the room that's hard to ignore here. The question of this is a legitimate one, and deserves to be discussed.

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The answer looks painfully obvious.

Yeah ... the DA wasn't a member of the NRA ... and pled guilty as charged. Methinks there is no bad "rap" involved ...

Note this came from the entertainment section of military.com ... not the news ...

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Originally posted by jack_flats:

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Originally posted by shuman14:
I will simply say that I believe the NY law and ANY law that prevents a citizen from carrying a firearm should be unconstitutional, period.

That being said, until that NY law is overturned it is the law and law abiding citizens should follow it.

Mr. Wayne clearly broke that law and plead guilty, meaning he KNEW what he did was wrong.

So what's your point Lee, other than to race bait?

Race bait? You wish. This is a mil.com story that begs that exact question.

"Where is the outrage from the 2nd Amendment types, the NRA, etc, who, would be all over this on behalf of this man if L'il Wayne wasn't a black male." That is the "obvious" part of the story. The story behind this story. The 800 lb gorilla sitting in the corner of the room that's hard to ignore here. The question of this is a legitimate one, and deserves to be discussed.

Then you and the writer share the same race baiting idea.

We know you well enough Lee to see thru your half truths right to your real motives.

Don't try playing the wounded party oldman, you don't do it very well.

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Originally posted by jack_flats:
http://military-entertainment....lil-wayne.html?wh=wh

No prior convictions, never been in any type of trouble. The answer looks painfully obvious.

And just what is "the answer" 'flats? Humor me. He pled guilty. Is it that he has a lousy lawyer? Too cheap to pay body guards? At least he didn't shoot himself like Plaxico Burris. Other than legally...

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Originally posted by jack_flats:
http://military-entertainment....lil-wayne.html?wh=wh

No prior convictions, never been in any type of trouble. The answer looks painfully obvious.

When one id deluded generally & imagines racism specifically, one does think its painfully obvious.

In NYC, to Possess a Handgun one must either be a sworn LEO (Local/State/Federal) or

Types of Licenses



PREMISES LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. It is issued for your RESIDENCE or BUSINESS. The Licensee may possess a handgun ONLY on the premises of the address indicated on the front of the license. Licensees may also transport their handguns and ammunition in SEPARATE LOCKED CONTAINERS, DIRECTLY to and from an authorized range, or hunting location. HANDGUNS MUST BE UNLOADED while being transported.

CARRY BUSINESS LICENSE: Is valid for the business name, address, and handguns listed on the front of the license. It is not transferable to any other person, business, occupation, or address, without the written approval of the commanding officer, license division.

LIMITED CARRY BUSINESS LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. The licensee may only carry handguns indicated on the license in accordance with the specific limitations listed thereon. At all other times the handgun shall be safeguarded at the specific address indicated on the license and secured unloaded in a locked container.

SPECIAL CARRY LICENSE: Is valid for the business name, address and handguns listed on the front of this license, only while the licensee has in his possession a valid basic county license issued according to the provisions of article 400 of the N.Y.S. Penal law. Upon the revocation, suspension, or cancellation of the basic license, the special license is rendered void and must be immediately returned to the license division.

CARRY GUARD LICENSE: (SECURITY GUARDS, ETC.) Applications for this type of license must be made with the documentation provided by a company's Gun Custodian. It is issued only for the handgun listed on the license. The handgun may be carried only while the licensee is actively engaged in employment for the company whose name appears on the license, and/or while licensee is in transit directly to or from residence and place of employment. At all other times the handgun must be stored unloaded in a locked container, at either the address on the license, or at the employee's legal residence (within the State of New York).

Source:
XXXhttp://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/handgun_licensing_information.shtmlXXX

in addition NYS Penal code section
260.01-thru .04 deal on a state level with handgun Violations

Lil Wayne is going to jail under a Law put into place due to Mayor Edward I. Koch (DEMOCRAT) and the City Councils(Also mostly DEMOCRATS) efforts.

He also was sentenced the same as Bernard Goetze the white subway avenger, and Larry Davis, the black drug dealing cop shooter.

ONLY a idiot with little in the way of intellect would claim this "Lil Wayne" Character is the victim of Racism. It was HIS choice to illegally possess the weapon.

As in the old TV show Baretta "If you cant do the Time, Dont do the Crime"




XXXhttp://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/permits/HandGunLicenseApplicationFormsComplete.pdfXXX

take a good look at the applications Section B question 12

Letter of Neccessity

As said before, NY's gun laws are unconstitutional and I'd like to see them overturned. That being said, Lil Wayne still broke the law. Citizens can't just pick in choose what laws they want to follow. And despite the gun laws, he was also charged on drug charges so what can any 2nd Amendment types do for him? Besides, Lil Wayne is a filthy rich celebrity, I hardly doubt he will do any serious time. He'll get off easy because of the $$$.

what the hell is a 2nd amendment type? oh you mean the people who own guns? or the people that want to uphold the constitution? what the hell does race have to do with it? jack you post the most ridiculous crap ive ever read on these forums...and then try to tell everyone its worth discussing...get a life....

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Originally posted by jack_flats:
http://military-entertainment....lil-wayne.html?wh=wh

No prior convictions, never been in any type of trouble. The answer looks painfully obvious.

Maybe it's because "Lil Wayne" is a drugged up dumbazz who thinks he can sing?

IMHO he's the turd in the bowl that won't flush no matter how hard you try.

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"Where is the outrage from the 2nd Amendment types, the NRA, etc, who, would be all over this on behalf of this man if L'il Wayne wasn't a black male."

Race has noting to do with it! He broke the law and he admitted to doing it. That Jack, is the obvious answer.

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Originally posted by shuman14:

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Originally posted by jack_flats:

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Originally posted by shuman14:
I will simply say that I believe the NY law and ANY law that prevents a citizen from carrying a firearm should be unconstitutional, period.

That being said, until that NY law is overturned it is the law and law abiding citizens should follow it.

Mr. Wayne clearly broke that law and plead guilty, meaning he KNEW what he did was wrong.

So what's your point Lee, other than to race bait?

Race bait? You wish. This is a mil.com story that begs that exact question.

"Where is the outrage from the 2nd Amendment types, the NRA, etc, who, would be all over this on behalf of this man if L'il Wayne wasn't a black male." That is the "obvious" part of the story. The story behind this story. The 800 lb gorilla sitting in the corner of the room that's hard to ignore here. The question of this is a legitimate one, and deserves to be discussed.

Then you and the writer share the same race baiting idea.

We know you well enough Lee to see thru your half truths right to your real motives.

Don't try playing the wounded party oldman, you don't do it very well.

You just can't seem to argue a legitimate point without getting personally insulting, right Shu? (Are you really this Lee guy you seem to be obsessed with?)

My real motives? How about the constitutionality of New York gun laws? Fact is, any gun owner worth his salt knows they are unconstitutional. So why isn't L'il Wayne, Plaxico Burris, and others not so famous, not being defended by the NRA. Where's the outrage? Again, it seems all to obvious. I guess we'll just have to wait to have a NRA member or some radical right winger be arrested there for the same charges as L'il Wayne, eh?

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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"Where is the outrage from the 2nd Amendment types, the NRA, etc, who, would be all over this on behalf of this man if L'il Wayne wasn't a black male."

Race has noting to do with it! He broke the law and he admitted to doing it. That Jack, is the obvious answer.

The law is unconstitutional, you know that. Where's the outrage and the outpouring of support for this man for a law that runs so counter to the 2nd Amendment. Hell, people here here seemed outraged about "proposed" anti-gun laws in the City of Chicago. Why not New York? This law in New York IS unconstitutional, or does the 2nd Amendment not pertain to certain groups? My feeling is that it does, to every American.