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Originally posted by ssgduke56:

...and when I retire I will leave my pathetic socialist one party state too. As long their are SHEEPS out there who keep voting the same stupid politicians in then NOTHING CHANGES! So sheeps keep going ba ba ba voting the same idiots in power. For both political parties (Dems/Reps) have stop representing the vast majority of legal citizens/legal immigrants and have cater to the corrupt special interest lobbyist groups from stupid Green Peace to corrupt oil companies. How pathetic and sad at the same time we voters allow this to happen. And now we are see the results of this where are economy is going down to the drain. Sooo sad....very sad!

Democrats equal cheap votes from Illegal Aliens by catering to give free Fed/State handouts

Republicans equal cheap slave labor from Illegal Aliens to cater to corrupt companies/corp who wants to max their profits

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Originally posted by jack_flats:
I would probably vote FOR them and look at their act as an act of "protest", which I totally agree with, but unfortunately, I am not from their state.

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I don't care if it is right or left, if they can't show respect to our country then I have no use for them and I don't want them getting a paycheck on the backs of the American people.

They should be exposed all day everyday for being un American and disrespectful.

The hall of shame for each and every one of them.

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Originally posted by BAGodbehere:

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I don't care if it is right or left, if they can't show respect to our country then I have no use for them and I don't want them getting a paycheck on the backs of the American people.

They should be exposed all day everyday for being un American and disrespectful.

The hall of shame for each and every one of them.

You go Girl,,,,,your not alone, the majority of us think the same as you. Jack is in his own little bubble,,,, he makes the place more enteresting though and he has a museum quality CAR-15, evidence that he is not entirely a left wing wacko otherwise he'd have an AK made in China,,, theres hope, keep after him.

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The Democrats didn''t stand for that reading of the pledge because it would have made the session "legal."

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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The Democrats didn''t stand for that reading of the pledge because it would have made the session "legal."

So a session held without the pledge is illegal? Where, pray tell, is that written in the NY Constitution ... or code?

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Dems lock GOP out of New York Senate

Chaos reigns once again in New York's legislature, with neither party truly in control

Alex Koppelman

Good news, South Carolinians. Your governor may have gone missing, but it could be worse -- you could, like New Yorkers are doing today, be wishing your elected officials would disappear.

Tuesday marked just the latest twist in an ongoing, and embarrassing, fight over which party will control New York's State Senate. The saga began two weeks ago, when two Democrats joined with Republicans to wrest power from the Democratic Party, which had gained the majority in last year's election after a four-decade drought. Democrats, though, weren't willing to accept the results of the coup, and wouldn't go back to work. With the body deadlocked and neither party willing to cede control, Gov. David Paterson called a special session to try to force the two sides to come to an arrangement.

So before the special session was gaveled to order at 3 p.m. Wednesday, Democrats snuck in to the chamber through a back entrance and locked themselves in -- and the Republicans out. By doing so, they beat the GOP to the punch; Republicans were going to enter the chamber at 2 p.m.

Eventually, the Democrats did let their opponents in to the Senate, but that only led to more tension. A Republican tried to go to the rostrum in order to preside, but there was already a Democrat up there, so a sergeant at arms blocked the Republican's way. Then, Republicans started holding the session, presiding from the floor. Democrats, though, refused to participate, but the GOP went ahead and acted like they were. Oh, and there are now two separate gavels being used.

If you're confused, you're not the only one. It's a mess.
"http://mobile.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/06/23/new_york/index.html"

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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The Democrats didn''t stand for that reading of the pledge because it would have made the session "legal."

So a session held without the pledge is illegal? Where, pray tell, is that written in the NY Constitution ... or code?

Believe it or not a session "starts" with the pledge of alliegance. It's written into their procedures.

Am I saying that any of this is logical? A Senate Session, starts with the Pledge of Alliegance.

Am I saying it's "part of the NY Constitution?

After they went back to a 31/31 standoff, a Republican happened to be passing by the Democratic caucus, and they immediately said they had a Quorum. Guy ran out of there as fast as he could.

There is in fact NO LIMIT to how petty, both sides have been in this matter.

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Dems lock GOP out of New York Senate

Chaos reigns once again in New York's legislature, with neither party truly in control

Alex Koppelman

Good news, South Carolinians. Your governor may have gone missing, but it could be worse -- you could, like New Yorkers are doing today, be wishing your elected officials would disappear.

Tuesday marked just the latest twist in an ongoing, and embarrassing, fight over which party will control New York's State Senate. The saga began two weeks ago, when two Democrats joined with Republicans to wrest power from the Democratic Party, which had gained the majority in last year's election after a four-decade drought. Democrats, though, weren't willing to accept the results of the coup, and wouldn't go back to work. With the body deadlocked and neither party willing to cede control, Gov. David Paterson called a special session to try to force the two sides to come to an arrangement.

So before the special session was gaveled to order at 3 p.m. Wednesday, Democrats snuck in to the chamber through a back entrance and locked themselves in -- and the Republicans out. By doing so, they beat the GOP to the punch; Republicans were going to enter the chamber at 2 p.m.

Eventually, the Democrats did let their opponents in to the Senate, but that only led to more tension. A Republican tried to go to the rostrum in order to preside, but there was already a Democrat up there, so a sergeant at arms blocked the Republican's way. Then, Republicans started holding the session, presiding from the floor. Democrats, though, refused to participate, but the GOP went ahead and acted like they were. Oh, and there are now two separate gavels being used.

If you're confused, you're not the only one. It's a mess.
"http://mobile.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/06/23/new_york/index.html"

Or perhaps you want to adapt RR's position that the Democrats did it to demonstrate they hate America?

Every session of the Senate and Assemby that I've ever attended starts with the Pledge.

Dave

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Originally posted by Grachus:

Or perhaps you want to adapt RR's position that the Democrats did it to demonstrate they hate America?

Every session of the Senate and Assemby that I've ever attended starts with the Pledge.

Dave

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:
I posed a simple question to which, I presume from your response, the answer is "it isn't" and "it isn't" ...

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Frank Padavan (R- Jamaica Estates) said it was "a fraud" that his brief appearance constituted a quorum. He said he passed through the chamber because the Senate lobby was blocked by reporters waiting for a public leaders' meeting. He said he had exited the chamber as Democrats were standing to say the Pledge of Allegiance.
"http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-stcoup0112932202jun30,0,1104887.story"

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ß 3. Order of Business. a. The Presiding Officer shall take the Chair at
the hour to which the Senate shall have adjourned and following a recital
of the pledge of allegiance to the flag, the first business of the day
shall be the reading of the journal of the preceding day, to the end that
any mistakes therein may be corrected.
"http://www.nysenate.gov/rules"

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Originally posted by Grachus:
Well, I'll be damned, a session ISN'T legal without saying the pledge.

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ß 3. Order of Business. a. The Presiding Officer shall take the Chair at
the hour to which the Senate shall have adjourned and following a recital
of the pledge of allegiance to the flag, the first business of the day
shall be the reading of the journal of the preceding day, to the end that
any mistakes therein may be corrected.
"http://www.nysenate.gov/rules"

Dave

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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Originally posted by Grachus:
Well, I'll be damned, a session ISN'T legal without saying the pledge.

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ß 3. Order of Business. a. The Presiding Officer shall take the Chair at
the hour to which the Senate shall have adjourned and following a recital
of the pledge of allegiance to the flag, the first business of the day
shall be the reading of the journal of the preceding day, to the end that
any mistakes therein may be corrected.
"http://www.nysenate.gov/rules"

Dave

So any deviation from order of business makes a session illegal?

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Originally posted by retireddoggie:
To the person who thought the NY mayor was a Republican- he changed his party a few years ago. Please remember that for NY to elect a Republican, he would probably be classified as a left wing Democrat in many locations.

They will not vote out the Dems- they elected a state comptroller facing indictment- says a lot. (BTW- the guy resigned allowing for the Dem gov to replace him with another Dem)

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Originally posted by Grachus:
Well, I'll be damned, a session ISN'T legal without saying the pledge.

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ß 3. Order of Business. a. The Presiding Officer shall take the Chair at
the hour to which the Senate shall have adjourned and following a recital
of the pledge of allegiance to the flag, the first business of the day
shall be the reading of the journal of the preceding day, to the end that
any mistakes therein may be corrected.
"http://www.nysenate.gov/rules"

Dave

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Bloomberg is nothing but a pathological liar.

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Bloomberg is nothing but a pathological liar.