Originally posted by spanner69:
I have critisize Dems. I have been hyper critical about Obama on a LOT of issues (Not here) but I have. There are things he's draggin his backside on that I think is disgraceful (To be fair you may actually applaude his actions on the issue I am talking about)
But here is the thing I dont attack anyones patritism cause they disagree with the GOvt. I didnt attack the patriotism of tea baggers as it was done to those who were against the Iraq war.
Some of the rehtoric I have heard used against President Obama since he's been office has been harsh to say the least and thats fine but if that name was Bush Or McCain and that SAME rehtoric and language was used against them? People on this board would be screaming bloody murder and treason!
And if the left did a Tea bag party during a time of war aginst McCain or Bush the guys on Fox would be calling it a "Hate America" Rally as Hannity did to a leftwing protest.
Americans have the RIGHT to protest and say what they want about their Govt, but their patriotism should not be attacked for it.
When I read stuff like people saying "Democrats hate America" I wonder do these peopel realize at least half of the nation identify themselves as Democrats. Do they understand that there are Democrats (As well as Republicans) fighting and dying in these wars? That you are urinating on their service and memory everytime you say "Democrats hate the country"??
Which lets be honest THEY LIVE HERE TO why would anyone hate the country and want us to be weak? So we can be attacked? Does that make any sense? You can argue with their ideas. YOU can say you dont agree with them. That your ideas are better. But saying Democrats want the terrorist to win? Are you saying half the nation WANTS to be enslaved? I suicidal??? Makes NO SENSE.
And what Schuer as well as others have been saying and implying boggeles my mind. To actually say they want us to get attacked so it can save us?????
I'll say this now I would want my candidate to lose every single election if I knew we would never have another 9/11. I would want my party to never be in control again if it means we wont have to go to war again. I LIVE in NYC I saw 9/11 up close literally in my backyard I dont want our country to ever go through that again.
Its country above party. Let us all try not to forget that.
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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
Ok, with that being said, I guess you would also criticize Schumer & Rangel. They are on the very far fringes of liberalism/socialism.
I have criticized many Republicans, including GWB on several issues.
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Originally posted by spanner69:
I hear ya Airborne and if you look at my post in question I was asking rhetorical questions to show how using simular arguments used to smear liberal would look just as stupid using them to smear conservatives.
Branding an entire party and half of the nation as hating the nation based on the actvity on knuckleheads in Albany of all places is stupid.
Newsflash to everyone..Dont use Albany politics to make your point about any particular party. All those mutts in Albany are cut from the same clothe. Just cause they have an R or D after name means nothing. Albany is about Albany not about the good of New York State.
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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
Again, Spanner, there is NO knee jerking here. Being a conservative is a good thing. Any Extreme is what gets me fightin mad.
It's your party that is now the majority, and they are putting us on the wrong road, the road to socialism. The majority of America is middle right, not hard left. Remember that. You will see the results in 2010.
Thank you for your service to our country, by the way. I just hope that our country can survive this current political catastrophe!

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Originally posted by spanner69:
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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
Did I
EVER say
ANYTHING about wanting an attack on this country??? HUH? WTF?? This is the problem with you freaking left-wing nutjobs! You spin it around to make it look like an independent thinker wants an attack on this country!
You freaking extreme liberals are
SICK! I have posted my agenda on this forum countless times, however, I say it again! I am for small government, LOW taxes, strong military and NO socialistic political engineering! The Constitution and Bill of Rights MUST be adhered to and respected as well as the Rule of Law!
Now, does that sound like someone who wants an attack on the very country that I went to combat for?
Get your head out of your extreme 4th point of contact! You are this countrys' problem, not me!

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Originally posted by spanner69:
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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
Glenn Beck is quickly starting to take a major role on TV and talk radio. He holds no PARTY line! He is an independent thinker with a real hatred for the hardcore, liberal, socialistic minded person; which I completely agree with!
Obama is definately ruining this country! We are going to implode if we don't stop!
Congress needs an enema for 2010 and we need a new, common sense, middle of the road conservative to bring back this country to what the MAJORITY of Americans believe in!
Glenn Beck would make a fine POTUS/CIC!

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Originally posted by Duster6:
Anybody see Glenn Beck yesterday? He had a guess speaker on board who worked as a Senior Field agent with the CIA during the Clinton Admin and the Bush administration. He said Jimmie Carter was the worst President this country ever had and Obama is not far behind him. He also said the only way to wake up America is for another 9/11 to hit us but on a bigger scale. Beck said something to the effect that OBL should hit us now but the fact is that OBL would be a fool to hit us again because we are destroying our country much faster than he could. GUESS WHAT? BECK IS RIGHT!
Yeah great job Glenn letting a guy go on his show saying that only OSAMA BIN LADEN can save America with an attack on US soil. Just let that clown wish for an attack on our HOMELAND.
Great job. And I'll ask this question why do Conservatives hate AMerica so much that they would wish for an attack on US soil...Stupid question right? Just as stupid as smearing all Democrats cause of the actions of of bunch of politicians. Albany Pols at that who are the worst of the bunch. OK?
Be like me saying why do Republicans hate their wives so much cause they cheat on them?
I'm a Democrat and I DAMN sure love my country.
Now Airborne you need to settle down and have a beer cause I wasnt talking about you. Was talking about that clown Michael Scheuer who went on the Beck show and said only Osama Bin Laden can save America by attacking us. Wasnt talking about you.
So you should direct those words at yourself instead of being a knee JERK conservative.
Oh and I went to Combat for this countryto so maybe you should take your 4th point of contact.