http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bolton_state_department/2007/12/25/59694.html

This is interesting.

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bolton_state_department/2007/12/25/59694.html

This is interesting.

Spare me. Also spare me "exclusive interview" with a moron who is on a nationwide book tour. He doesn't believe in diplomacy at all, had no business in his last job, and has openly advocated for what amounts to the abolition of the civil service system within the State Department. A far more convincing case can be made that it was the steady and escalating belligerence of this administration that led to the rise of Ineedadinnerjacket and the defeat of the moderates two elections back, and this clown needs to take his mustache and go spend more time with his family.

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bolton_state_department/2007/12/25/59694.html

This is interesting.

Spare me. Also spare me "exclusive interview" with a moron who is on a nationwide book tour. He doesn't believe in diplomacy at all, had no business in his last job, and has openly advocated for what amounts to the abolition of the civil service system within the State Department. A far more convincing case can be made that it was the steady and escalating belligerence of this administration that led to the rise of Ineedadinnerjacket and the defeat of the moderates two elections back, and this clown needs to take his mustache and go spend more time with his family.

Oldmole, I totally agree with you however, from what little I looked at, (Bolton) is acting the front man for any war.

Read it - this man and his former boss scare the hell out of me!

Frisco

LOL

Someones getting ready to push their new book.

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bolton_state_department/2007/12/25/59694.html

This is interesting.

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bolton_state_department/2007/12/25/59694.html

This is interesting.

Spare me. Also spare me "exclusive interview" with a moron who is on a nationwide book tour. He doesn't believe in diplomacy at all, had no business in his last job, and has openly advocated for what amounts to the abolition of the civil service system within the State Department. A far more convincing case can be made that it was the steady and escalating belligerence of this administration that led to the rise of Ineedadinnerjacket and the defeat of the moderates two elections back, and this clown needs to take his mustache and go spend more time with his family.

Mybe you can go buy Joe Wilson's book or something like it. I'm sure it is more to your preferred reading.

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bolton_state_department/2007/12/25/59694.html

This is interesting.

Spare me. Also spare me "exclusive interview" with a moron who is on a nationwide book tour. He doesn't believe in diplomacy at all, had no business in his last job, and has openly advocated for what amounts to the abolition of the civil service system within the State Department. A far more convincing case can be made that it was the steady and escalating belligerence of this administration that led to the rise of Ineedadinnerjacket and the defeat of the moderates two elections back, and this clown needs to take his mustache and go spend more time with his family.

Maybe you can go buy Joe Wilson's book or something like it. I'm sure it is more to your preferred reading.

That doesn't mean I won't take my trusty library card and read Mr. Bolton's book too. If one is to successfully dispute such positions, one must first understand their basis.

Why should we not financially back opposition groups in Iran? we can rest assured that foreign powers back groups friendly to them here.

Bolton is a nut job. Any story that comes out of Iran is seen by him as justification for invading that country. He is the ultimate chickenhawk.

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Originally posted by foxred03:
Bolton is a nut job. Any story that comes out of Iran is seen by him as justification for invading that country. He is the ultimate chickenhawk.

I suspect it broke his heart when the recent NIE debunked the need to attack Iran based on their nuclear program. That won't deter this chickenhawk however. He will continue to find enemies everywhere, and probably make them where he can't find them. So long as he isn't placed in harms way himself.

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Originally posted by 16528112:
Why should we not financially back opposition groups in Iran? we can rest assured that foreign powers back groups friendly to them here.

Perhaps because of our somewhat indifferent experience in backing exile opposition groups in Iraq, for one thing. There is no shortage of people who would be happy to take large wads of American cash by telling us exactly what we want to hear. Here is one example:

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NRO: What do Iranians think of George W. Bush?

Fakhravar: The people of Iran, especially the youth, are so admiring of Bush and his administration for siding with the people of Iran rather than the government of Iran. No other leader of any government, even the Europeans, took this stand. All the youngsters support him and love him, and we want to express our deepest gratitude for him and his administration and what they are doing to liberate us.

http://www.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/steorts200602130807.asp

Anyone willing to put that sort of rubbish out is really anxious to improve his circumstances, but how this is likely to improve our circumstances is questionable.

Wow, you folks are ready to fry John Bolton, but Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson you believe? Oh brother.

Bolton is correct is wanting to dismantle the civil service in the State Dept. This would be the same State Dept. whose employees REFUSED to take their turn in Baghdad. . . even though they signed a pledge to do so.

Bolton is right. . . the state dept. is a lost cause.

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by catahoulagill:
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/bolton_state_department/2007/12/25/59694.html

This is interesting.

Spare me. Also spare me "exclusive interview" with a moron who is on a nationwide book tour. He doesn't believe in diplomacy at all, had no business in his last job, and has openly advocated for what amounts to the abolition of the civil service system within the State Department. A far more convincing case can be made that it was the steady and escalating belligerence of this administration that led to the rise of Ineedadinnerjacket and the defeat of the moderates two elections back, and this clown needs to take his mustache and go spend more time with his family.

Maybe you can go buy Joe Wilson's book or something like it. I'm sure it is more to your preferred reading.

That doesn't mean I won't take my trusty library card and read Mr. Bolton's book too. If one is to successfully dispute such positions, one must first understand their basis.

Good for you! Are you in dispute with the idea that the State Department is somewhat fractured? How about the idea that some in the State Department are undermining policy decisions?
Judging from leaks that have not been in our best national interests, yet have been great political fodder for the press, would you be willing to agree that the State Department has serious problems in its ability to work for any common goal? The idea that members of the State Department and/or the CIA can operate on their own, according to their own ideas - political or otherwise, in disregard of administrative policy, is greatly disturbing to me. I might not like the policy, but it definitly won't work if some are working for it and some are undermining. Please say it isn't so, if you can.

What if our military operated in the same fashion that the State Department is currently operating?

What I do like about John Bolton is how blunt he is. He leaves little doubt about how he feels on any subject!

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:
Wow, you folks are ready to fry John Bolton, but Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson you believe? Oh brother.

Bolton is correct is wanting to dismantle the civil service in the State Dept. This would be the same State Dept. whose employees REFUSED to take their turn in Baghdad. . . even though they signed a pledge to do so.

Bolton is right. . . the state dept. is a lost cause.

Not to believe the Wilson's premise that she was outted by their own govt, isn't a stretch if you believe the Case the Prosecutor Presented and the limits and the very statments by those involved in Outting her, the evidence, the jury, the perjury.

Now I'll grant you, outside of Armitage and Tony Snow's flippant apology, yeah, I can take the Wilson's word over Mr. Bolton.

but I at least give Bolton Credit, he still has faith.

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Originally posted by Ol_Doc:

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Originally posted by foxred03:
Bolton is a nut job. Any story that comes out of Iran is seen by him as justification for invading that country. He is the ultimate chickenhawk.

I suspect it broke his heart when the recent NIE debunked the need to attack Iran based on their nuclear program. That won't deter this chickenhawk however. He will continue to find enemies everywhere, and probably make them where he can't find them. So long as he isn't placed in harms way himself.

This happened about the time I realized how truly screwed up our government is. For some reason, the NIE that said Iraq had WMDs was AND STILL IS accurrate. But this NIE is somehow flawed according to Bolton, he question the credibility of the people who wrote it. These ideologogues are hugely dangerous.