I've got the solution.. if I can find the components I could rebuild my microbrewery from college... I'd never drink that crap, but I think it'd be good enuff for my truck.. in fact, my girlfriend always said it gave HER gas...

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Originally posted by godawgz:
I've got the solution.. if I can find the components I could rebuild my microbrewery from college... I'd never drink that crap, but I think it'd be good enuff for my truck.. in fact, my girlfriend always said it gave HER gas...

Sounds like my college days. I think I lived out of an Igloo cooler and I coulda swore I took some of my tests and signed them I.G. Loo...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

IG Loo? Priceless!!!!

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Legislative action would appear to be the only answer to it ...

Thank you! That is the answer I was fishing for ... and just what we need ... our efficient and productive Congress telling farmers what to plant where!

No thanks ... I'll pin my hopes on algae and a slew of nuclear power plants, hopefully for the most part Generation 4.

Don't look now, but the government is in farming now and it does dictate what crops can and can't be planted on certain acreage...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by 6837602:

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Originally posted by Jade_Gate:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:

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6837602:

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The switch grass based fuels will be produced by American farmers and the profits derived will be spent in the US.

What is to prevent farmers from continuing to convert food-oriented crops to switchgrass, thereby putting further upward pressure on food prices? After all, not only would there be profit in doing so but it is far easier to grow.

Produce it from algae...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

I understand algae ... but the person I was addressing said "switchgrass" and "farmers" ... I'm looking for his thoughts on his concept. Thanks though.

Switch grass can be grown on scrub land that can not be used for food crops. It can be grown in the right of ways of all our interstates. There is allot of land to grow switch grass on with out using food producing land. I have friends in TX that a have planted it on their non producing land and are going to distill it for use in their farm equipment.

I understand that too ... but ... the question remains, if switch grass "takes off" and produces more revenue than conventional crops, what is the mechanism for preventing farmers from taking land used for conventional crops and instead growing switchgrass on it ... much as some farmers have dropped wheat in favor of corn ... following the money.

Well, what would you have, night riders burning crops? Oil is regulated in the United States now, the trading of it as a commodity isn't regulated, well not in a way that would control runaway speculation of it. Just like some people in this country have given up on the right to keep and bear firearms, so now they go after ammunition, nothing in the Constitution about ammunition. That's the way with regulating anything, can't control it, control something that it needs and restrict it that way. Yup, our government has been doing it that way for decades...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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I believe the movement toward biofuel is so strong now that baring some legislation initiated by the oil thieves it will become the dominate mobil fuel in about 6 years . The oil thieves could try, through legislation,to push up productions fees so high that the farmers could not produce it them selves . They probably will. I hope not it is going to provide a good pay check for the American farmers even small farmers.

It will if the price of crude oil continues to sky rocket and the price at the pump reaches six plus dollars a gallon. There will be food riots in this country, because goods can't be transported by diesel trucks and trains and farmers can't afford diesel for the machinery or fertilizers and pesticides from petro chemicals.
Industries will grind to a halt, because workers can't afford the fuel to get to work and mass transit, for the most part, isn't...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:

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Originally posted by 6837602:
I believe the movement toward biofuel is so strong now that baring some legislation initiated by the oil thieves it will become the dominate mobil fuel in about 6 years . The oil thieves could try, through legislation,to push up productions fees so high that the farmers could not produce it them selves . They probably will. I hope not it is going to provide a good pay check for the American farmers even small farmers.

It will if the price of crude oil continues to sky rocket and the price at the pump reaches six plus dollars a gallon. There will be food riots in this country, because goods can't be transported by diesel trucks and trains and farmers can't afford diesel for the machinery or fertilizers and pesticides from petro chemicals.
Industries will grind to a halt, because workers can't afford the fuel to get to work and mass transit, for the most part, isn't...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

It (Gas) will be $7.00 a gallon by Jun 09
that was the projection Wed night on CNN and on the local news in INDY the farmers are jumping for joy it is about time they got a pay check.
They will spend the money locally and the rest of us will find something to sell them. We could have trouble in Dec when some in the population can not afford to feed their families or heat their homes. I just hope that the regime in Washington does not use that as an excuse to declare marshal law and hang on to power when they loose the election.