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20 DAY SUSPENSION 11 JULY 08 NEMESIS |
Cease-fire reached in Baghdad's Sadr City
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The Iraqi government and Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's movement have agreed to a cease-fire to end weeks of fighting in Baghdad's Sadr City district, spokesmen for both sides said Saturday. The 14-point agreement will "impose the state's authority and security ... in Sadr City," Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said............ here's hoping this lasts longer than 20 minutes.... |
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alsadar has to reup and rearm again.... guess that fresh shipment of troops and weapons from iran are to arrive soon...
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You simply don't understand do you Outlaws. Maliki's lot, the ruling government, are even more closely aligned with Iran than Sadr's people are. |
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"Has Been 8" |
Without Sadr's head on a pike, this "cease fire" is simply a rearm, retrain, attack in the unspecified future. As both sides THERE in Baghdad well understand.
Oh, and the Iatola's in Iraq would prefer Maliki's head on a pike at the earliest possible time. They , in Baghdad, understand that too. It is over here that we seem to have difficulty understanding it. |
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Member suspended 20 DAYS Nemesis 11JULY08 |
That would be sooooo inconvenient to acknowledge...  But this involves even more than that. Once again the little fat boys demise has proved to be a premature announcement, and one has to ask - What kind of State allows or makes deals with armed rebels? In the capital of the country no less. Dave |
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yup funny how some dont get it...or wont get it... |
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Well the whole thing was about Maliki, with US backing ('fronting' actually, just being reported as 'backing') to prevent Sadr taking part in the October elections. It is a power-grab by Maliki using US assets to do it. The irony being that Maliki's government, and therefore the US, is doing Iran's bidding. For real evidence of Iranian interference in Iraq, one could do worse than to look at the support given to Maliki by Iran in his fight against Al Sadr. His Chubbyness wants in on the political process because he has some seriously solid grass-roots support in Sadr City and Basra in the South of Iraq, and there's a lot of power and money up for grabs. Maliki by comparison, is leading a bunch of loosely associated groups that are apt to turn their backs on him at the drop of a head-scarf. Overall though, Iran is the only winner in all of this whichever way the chips fall from here on in..... Which probably explains the 'more-war to end the war' rhetoric coming from the Bush Administration. |
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Member suspended 20 DAYS Nemesis 11JULY08 |
Yeah, Almadinajad was recently welcomed to Bagdad by Maliki himself, and to add to the irony was protected by 150 US Marines. I must say, while I have no use for Sadr, I also find him funny at times. Like he's in Iran now supposedly studying for his Mullahship. Apparently all he's got to so far is Mullah 101. Or take that ex ally of ours Challabi. After screwing us out of hundreds of millions of dollars, he deposited it all in Tehran, and has the balls to claim he never liked us in the first place. Sheesh, talk about denial. Wait till Maliki gives us the shaft and someone on this board will happily post that he changed his mind about us, because of his subscription to the NY Times... Dave |
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"Has Been 8" |
Clinton had Arafat at the Whitehouse more than any head of any State. Does that mean Clinton and Arafat were allies? Of a common cause? HARDLY.
An attempt to lessen tensions and active hostilities, whendone by someone else is bad, when we do it it is great statesmanship, as long as the guy/gal's a democrat? Do I have that right? |
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Member suspended 20 DAYS Nemesis 11JULY08 |
Clinton brought the two waring sides together and forced them to negotiate. Apparently he grasped the concept that you cannot make peace by signing a treaty with yourself. You actually have to sign treaties with your enemies. But Maliki's government has stated that they will never allow us to attack Iran from their soil. Maliki's government runs off to Iran to ask THEM to negotiate cease fires. Sounds like their really ready to go at it. Dave |
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FACTBOX: Key points in deal to end Baghdad fighting
Following are the main points of the agreement: * Gunmen loyal to Sadr in his eastern Baghdad stronghold of Sadr City must lay down their arms within four days of the truce, which takes effect from Saturday. * No one is entitled to obstruct Iraqi security forces from entering Sadr City, a Shi'ite slum home to 2 million people. * The government must restore control over Sadr City. * All blocked roads in Sadr City will be opened to allow emergency aid to be brought to residents and for the wounded to be evacuated. * Security forces may search Sadr City for wanted "outlaws" and arrest any of them. Security forces must first produce an arrest warrant. * Militiamen must stop firing mortars and rockets at areas such as the Green Zone diplomatic and government compound. * Weapons belong only in the hands of the government, not individuals. * The government has the right to raid any place it suspects of containing weapons. FOOTNOTE: Iraqi law allows each household to have one gun. .................................. |
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Apparently the government's been fighting 'rogue factions' for the past seven weeks. Given the time it's taken to get the wall this far, what would it be like if the Mahdi Army was turned loose?
Like the fuzzy-wuzzies at Khartoum...  |
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Postponing the inevitable. Laying down their arms is not disarming. When that happens I'll give Maliki an atta boy.
I sure wouldn't use the negotiations with Arafat as an example making peace. The azz strung the west as well as most of the Arab nations along for decades while he was salting his (our) money away in Paris. That's the reason he even attended Camp David. Looking at the situation he left and the opportunities lost I have to say that Clinton was negotiating with the devil. Now, the same crowd wants to play house with Hamas. Talking about gullible. Always happy to gained knowledge from our cousins in the north Atlantic. They, having so much experience in caring for middle eastern folk, and all.  |
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naw he didnt he was doing what was best for his country.... you know he is gay??? i know dont mean much but he is a really nice guy.... |
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Member suspended 20 DAYS Nemesis 11JULY08 |
Outlaw, Chalabi is someone who I find so "jive" as to by hysterically funny. I kind of like the guy myself although someone should blow him away. Chalabi is interested in the welfare of one entity - Chalabi. He will join anyside, say anything, commit crimes or be a saint, as long as it benefits Chalabi. To use street terminolgy, he's a "stone cold hustler," wanted in Jordon for bank fraud, accused BY US of being an Iranian spy. There is simply nothing he wont do. You have to admire the balls on the guy who scammed four countries and is still going strong... Dave |
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i disagree... i met him along with a few other exial iraqi in new orleans back in the 90s... that one athlete that usday said he was going to kill because he didnt win.... chalabi is more of a sugar daddy then a hustler.... |
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Member suspended 20 DAYS Nemesis 11JULY08 |
The stock in trade of a GOOD hustler...
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Bullshit. Chalabi is a shyster. "...It ought to be considered, therefore, how vain are the faith and promises of those who find themselves deprived of their country. For, as to their faith, it has to be borne in mind that anytime they can return to their country by other means than yours, they will leave you and look to the other, notwithstanding whatever promises they had made you. As to their vain hopes and promises, such is the extreme desire in them to return home, that they naturally believe many things that are false and add many others by art, so that between those they believe and those they say they believe, they fill you with hope, so that relying on them you will incur expenses in vain, or you undertake an enterprise in which you ruin yourself...A Prince, therefore, ought to go slowly in undertaking an enterprise upon the representations of an exile, for most of the times he will be left either with shame or very grave injury." - Niccolo Machiavelli http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/m/machiavelli/niccolo/m149d/bk2ch31.html |
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Absolutely. |
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well you are free to believe in whatever you want....thats one main differences between us and saddam iraq... in saddams iraq one was not free to believe in whatever they wanted and were killed if their views were deemed too extream.... |
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