WHAT THE ****!

Tragic!

++http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091102/world/us_westernized_woman_assault

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A 20-year-old woman from Iraq whose father allegedly hit her with his car because she had become too Westernized has died from her injuries, authorities said.


Noor Faleh Almaleki had been in a local hospital since Oct. 20, when police say her father ran down her and her boyfriend's mother with his Jeep as the women were walking across a parking lot in the west Phoenix suburb of Peoria.

Peoria police spokesman Mike Tellef said Noor died Monday. The other woman, Amal Khalaf, is expected to survive.


Family members say Faleh Hassan Almaleki attacked his daughter because he believed she had become too Westernized and was not living according to his traditional Iraqi values.


Almaleki fled after the attack but was arrested Thursday when he arrived at Atlanta's airport, where he was sent from the United Kingdom after authorities denied him entrance.

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Honor killing. One of the practices of that peaceful and tollerant religion Islam. Here in TX last New Years, a taxi driver shot and killed his two daughters that were becoming "too westernized". But hey, maybe if we make allowances for their religion of peace, and shift our culture to fit more with theirs, everything will be better. Hey, I believe in the Freedom of Religion...but when that's used to justify killing one's children...well...I guess we'll need to make allowances, it is their religion afterall...

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Originally posted by Canuck_Centaur:
WHAT THE ****!

Tragic!

++http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091102/world/us_westernized_woman_assault

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A 20-year-old woman from Iraq whose father allegedly hit her with his car because she had become too Westernized has died from her injuries, authorities said.


Noor Faleh Almaleki had been in a local hospital since Oct. 20, when police say her father ran down her and her boyfriend's mother with his Jeep as the women were walking across a parking lot in the west Phoenix suburb of Peoria.

Peoria police spokesman Mike Tellef said Noor died Monday. The other woman, Amal Khalaf, is expected to survive.


Family members say Faleh Hassan Almaleki attacked his daughter because he believed she had become too Westernized and was not living according to his traditional Iraqi values.


Almaleki fled after the attack but was arrested Thursday when he arrived at Atlanta's airport, where he was sent from the United Kingdom after authorities denied him entrance.

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Good example of the people we are fighting and dieing for........

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Originally posted by SignalSgtWilliams:

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Originally posted by Canuck_Centaur:
WHAT THE ****!

Tragic!

++http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091102/world/us_westernized_woman_assault

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A 20-year-old woman from Iraq whose father allegedly hit her with his car because she had become too Westernized has died from her injuries, authorities said.


Noor Faleh Almaleki had been in a local hospital since Oct. 20, when police say her father ran down her and her boyfriend's mother with his Jeep as the women were walking across a parking lot in the west Phoenix suburb of Peoria.

Peoria police spokesman Mike Tellef said Noor died Monday. The other woman, Amal Khalaf, is expected to survive.


Family members say Faleh Hassan Almaleki attacked his daughter because he believed she had become too Westernized and was not living according to his traditional Iraqi values.


Almaleki fled after the attack but was arrested Thursday when he arrived at Atlanta's airport, where he was sent from the United Kingdom after authorities denied him entrance.

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Good example of the people we are fighting and dieing for........

SignalSgt,

Good point! Begs the question.

Jack

Charge him with Murder 1, premeditated special circumstances

Arizona has lethal Injection, hopefully he gets it

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Originally posted by LineDoggie:
Charge him with Murder 1, premeditated special circumstances

Arizona has lethal Injection, hopefully he gets it

I wonder if they would let me push the button?

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Originally posted by DaleU:

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Originally posted by LineDoggie:
Charge him with Murder 1, premeditated special circumstances

Arizona has lethal Injection, hopefully he gets it

I wonder if they would let me push the button?

Button? I would want the actual syringe. I want to be able to look the MF in the eyes when I put it in his arm and say "Hey! It is your time now!" while I manually inject the stuff.....

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Originally posted by DaleU:

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Originally posted by LineDoggie:
Charge him with Murder 1, premeditated special circumstances

Arizona has lethal Injection, hopefully he gets it

I wonder if they would let me push the button?

What?!? This young woman probably didn't wear a hijab...thus, her fate. You have got to be kidding me.

Islam like all are peaceful if follow correctly. This has nothing to do with Islam thou it does have to do with how he was raise. Remember we are more open to things here.
He grew up probably in a family who were very strict.
This is a shame but it happens in every religion.

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Good example of the people we are fighting and dieing for........

SSW,
I have been sitting at my desk, staring at these words you wrote for the last five minutes thinking of what else could be said. Words escape me, thoughts like stability, diplomacy, so that others may live free,,,,

Is not worth one drop of my peoples blood, it seems as though for far to long we have shed our blood for decades, a century,,, for those that are so ungrateful, so unwilling themselves to sacrifice for their own advancement.
I am so sick of my people being 5hit on... You know,,, you just can't help some people and these are not even people, they're animals, rabid, sick fk's, they murder their own daughters.

AND

You out there, the ones that think this is isolateted, wake the fk up. This may not be mainstream, but it is the norm,,,and it *IS* accepted by their own, fk them, turn them into glass already, put us and them out of our misery.

^ because you would nuke half the world to win. I got some new's for you its a no win for anyone. Think real hard on it.

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was not living according to his traditional Iraqi values.

Best place to find those “traditional Iraqi values” would be in Iraq…..

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Originally posted by NSNN:

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was not living according to his traditional Iraqi values.

Best place to find those “traditional Iraqi values” would be in Iraq…..

Yep, personally though I think that the term "honour killing" is wrong as many of them have nothing to do with honour but are about control, just as they were when the same thing used happen in Christendom. A man usually father or husband but often brothers fears that he may be losing his ability to force a woman to do his bidding. So rather than lose face he kills her.

At the moment the attention is on Muslims doing this but it also happens regularly in Hindu India and I've no doubt in the nominally Christian parts of Africa.
Come to think of it, I wonder just how long ago the last husband or father got away with killing his wife or daughter in Europe or America for similar reasons?

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Originally posted by Bladensburg:

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Originally posted by NSNN:

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was not living according to his traditional Iraqi values.

Best place to find those “traditional Iraqi values” would be in Iraq…..

Yep, personally though I think that the term "honour killing" is wrong as many of them have nothing to do with honour but are about control, just as they were when the same thing used happen in Christendom. A man usually father or husband but often brothers fears that he may be losing his ability to force a woman to do his bidding. So rather than lose face he kills her.

At the moment the attention is on Muslims doing this but it also happens regularly in Hindu India and I've no doubt in the nominally Christian parts of Africa.
Come to think of it, I wonder just how long ago the last husband or father got away with killing his wife or daughter in Europe or America for similar reasons?

Thank you for posting this. People need to understand it's not just islam.

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Originally posted by world_king377:

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Originally posted by Bladensburg:

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Originally posted by NSNN:

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was not living according to his traditional Iraqi values.

Best place to find those “traditional Iraqi values” would be in Iraq…..

Yep, personally though I think that the term "honour killing" is wrong as many of them have nothing to do with honour but are about control, just as they were when the same thing used happen in Christendom. A man usually father or husband but often brothers fears that he may be losing his ability to force a woman to do his bidding. So rather than lose face he kills her.

At the moment the attention is on Muslims doing this but it also happens regularly in Hindu India and I've no doubt in the nominally Christian parts of Africa.
Come to think of it, I wonder just how long ago the last husband or father got away with killing his wife or daughter in Europe or America for similar reasons?

Thank you for posting this. People need to understand it's not just islam.

It’s actually much more prevalent in India with their caste system.

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Originally posted by world_king377:
Islam like all are peaceful if follow correctly. This has nothing to do with Islam thou it does have to do with how he was raise. Remember we are more open to things here.
He grew up probably in a family who were very strict.
This is a shame but it happens in every religion.

It may happen in other religions, but not to the extent that we see in Islam. Whole countries subjugated(sp) by warped versions of this religion, Suicide bombings, women singled out for any expression that doesn't fit into Islam. Over the weekend in NY, The Daily News reported on a woman who attempted to cut her husbandds throat for being too "westernized". Other religions have their share of screw ups, but they can't hold a candle to what we see these days.

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Originally posted by world_king377:
Islam like all are peaceful if follow correctly. This has nothing to do with Islam thou it does have to do with how he was raise. Remember we are more open to things here.
He grew up probably in a family who were very strict.
This is a shame but it happens in every religion.

BS. It has as much to do with religion as wearing a hijab or growing a beard as some Muslim religious groups purportedly require.

That it is inculcated or embedded in some other religions is not a defense.

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Originally posted by Bladensburg:

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Originally posted by NSNN:

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was not living according to his traditional Iraqi values.

Best place to find those “traditional Iraqi values” would be in Iraq…..

good points all......
Yep, personally though I think that the term "honour killing" is wrong as many of them have nothing to do with honour but are about control, just as they were when the same thing used happen in Christendom. A man usually father or husband but often brothers fears that he may be losing his ability to force a woman to do his bidding. So rather than lose face he kills her.

At the moment the attention is on Muslims doing this but it also happens regularly in Hindu India and I've no doubt in the nominally Christian parts of Africa.
Come to think of it, I wonder just how long ago the last husband or father got away with killing his wife or daughter in Europe or America for similar reasons?

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Come to think of it, I wonder just how long ago the last husband or father got away with killing his wife or daughter in Europe or America for similar reasons?

I submit that the difference is the degree to which the act was part of a group norm or expectation ... or simply the random act of an individual. It seems to me that there is frequently a misplaced effort to use the latter to excuse the former ...

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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Come to think of it, I wonder just how long ago the last husband or father got away with killing his wife or daughter in Europe or America for similar reasons?

I submit that the difference is the degree to which the act was part of a group norm or expectation ... or simply the random act of an individual. It seems to me that there is frequently a misplaced effort to use the latter to excuse the former ...

Possibly but that was why I said "got away with" in that society colluded with the murderer. There are still crimes like this committed in Europe and America by whites but now they tend to be seen for what they are, I was just wondering how long ago it was that it was tacitly accepted.
I have a feeling that there was at least one case in Victorian times in England that was quite famous but I can't recall the details.

I also think it's a mistake to identify this specifically with a religion. I very much doubt that this sort of thing suddenly started in the late 7th century when Mohamed (pease be upon him ) started his little army.