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Afghanistan’s Independent Election Commission, whose members were appointed by President Karzai, has declared Karzai to be the President of Afghanistan – because his political opponent refused to be involved in a sham election.
“KABUL, Afghanistan — Afghan officials on Monday canceled plans for a runoff presidential vote, declaring President Hamid Karzai the winner after the withdrawal on Sunday of his last remaining challenger, Abdullah Abdullah.” “Azizullah Ludin, the chairman of Afghanistan’s Independent Election Commission, said the Constitution did not require a runoff and the second-round vote had been canceled after Mr. Abdullah’s announcement that he was dropping out of the race.” According to the counter insurgency bible, the Field Manual/Marine Corps Reference Publication (FM/MCRP) that was revised in 2006 by General Petraeus “Political power is the central issue in an insurgency.” >http://www.usgcoin.org/library/doctrine/COIN-FM3-24.pdf FM/MCRP section - 1, paragraph -113. “The primary objective of any COIN operation is to foster development of effective governance by a legitimate government.” If there is no legitimate government for the people to be loyal to, American troops could occupy (secure) every village in A-stan, and the insurgency will still not be defeated. Sending troops to Afghanistan to prop up a corrupt government that will not be accepted by a large portion of the Afghani people is immoral. American troops in Afghanistan should be there to protect America's interests (fight al Qaeda), not to support a corrupt government give those thieves money under the guise of nation building. |
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It's a sad state of affairs. Not even after an international investigation can the Karsai government assure the opposition that a new election would be a fair one.
It also leaves the US up the proverbial creek! |
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I agree ... though the SECSTATE doesn't think it matters. |
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 "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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Looking vietnamish to me
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President Obama and Madam SecState have to put the best face on this pig because there are American and NATO troops deployed to Afghanistan. They cannot just throw their hands up and withdraw all support of Karsai because like it or not, he is in charge there. It seems that the decision by the Election Commission makes President Obama’s decision easier. Send only enough troops to Afghanistan to focus on the goal to “disrupt, dismantle and defeat Al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and to prevent their return to either country in the future.” |
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not holding breath waiting for Obama to make another move, oh thats right |
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From my reading, it appears that Karsai's "authority" extends only to Kabul city limits. The rest of Afghanistan is apparently governed by local tribal chiefs. As Sand_Flea said, "Looking vietnamish to me." I agree. It is just a matter of time (and blood and treasure) before we get out. We don't speak their language; we don't understand their culture; when we do speak to them, it is at the end of a gun -- not a promising scenario. Let's get out now! The military won't like that decision; war is their business. But boots on the ground ain't going to "win" this and no one has been able to define "winning" it anyway. LET'S GET OUT NOW! |
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After American troops withdraw and al Qaeda does another 9/11 here in America from their bases in A-stan and/or P-stan – then what should we do? We have a legitimate reason to have combat forces in A-stan – we are fighting a war against al Qaeda and that is the region where their leadership continues to plan and train for the next attack on America. We cannot leave and just hope they don’t attack us again. |
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When George W Bush diverted the US forces from Afghanistan to Iraq, we LOST our mission to "get" bin Ladin and al Qaeda. It's too late now. Additionally, it appears that al Qaeda is not centrally governed: it's branches in other locations are loosely connected but not centrally administrated. It also appears that the Taliban are not an integrated force but, rather, tribally administered as is Afghanistan outside of Kabul. The US needs to beef up our security here at home. Ports and harbors, airports and the like need better security. Our military is stretched thin after eight years of unnecessary wars. Its manpower needs to be rested and rehabilitated; its equipment and supplies need replenishment; its planning for possible enemy attack on the US proper needs updating. Our security rests not on Afghanistan and Iraq: bring our military home and we will become much more secure. |
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After American troops withdraw and al Qaeda does another 9/11 here in America from their bases in A-stan and/or P-stan – then what should we do? |
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I see Afghanistan has had "fair" elections like we do and I wonder if by Afghanistan emulating our democratic "fair" election process will benefit the Afghan people as much as our government benefits us. What a joke....
I will always defend and believe in that process, but Americans need to take that process back from the crooks who steal us blind. Equal media time to all candidates, no matter how much money they have no more contributions allowed. I'm tired of having a capitalistic election process that does this country no good when it comes to electing a good leader. |
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Why Cant I delete my post, use to be able to?
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"but Americans need to take that process back from the crooks who steal us blind." I agree, we need to get rid of the trillion dollars give away crooks in the current congress and the current administration    |
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