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This one will actually show you the line and section that are being referred to!
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"http://republicanleader.house.gov/blog/?p=666"

Speaker Pelosi’s Government-Run Health Plan Will Require a Monthly Abortion Premium
Posted by GOP Leader Press Office on November 5th, 2009

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Health care reform should not be used as an opportunity to use federal funds to pay for elective abortions. Health reform should be an opportunity to protect human life - not end it.

Unfortunately, Speaker Pelosi’s 2,032-page government takeover of health care does just that. On line 17, p. 110, section 222 under “Abortions for which Public Funding is Allowed” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run plan. The Speaker’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions.

What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run plan. It’s right there on line 16, page 96, section 213, under “Insurance Rating Rules.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account - and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.

Section 213 describes the process in which the Health Benefits Commissioner is to assess the monthly premiums that will be used to pay for elective abortions under the government-run plan. The Commissioner must charge at a minimum $1 per enrollee per month.

A majority of Americans believe that health care plans should not be mandated to provide elective abortion coverage, and a majority of Americans do not believe government health care plans should include abortion coverage. Currently, federal appropriations bills include language known as the Hyde Amendment that prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for elective abortions under the Medicare and Medicaid programs, while another provision, known as the Smith Amendment, prohibits federal funding of abortion under the federal employees’ health benefits plan.

Speaker Pelosi’s 2,032-page health care monstrosity is an affront to the American people and drastically moves away from current policy. The American people deserve more from their government than being forced to pay for abortion.

House Republicans are offering a common-sense, responsible solution that would reduce health care costs and expand access while protecting the dignity of all human life. The Republican plan, available at HealthCare.GOP.gov, would codify the Hyde Amendment and prohibit all authorized and appropriated federal funds from being used to pay for abortion. And under the Republican plan, any health plan that includes abortion coverage may not receive federal funds.
 
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You cant believe whats in the bill, Obama himself and Prime Minister Pelosi said that abortions would not be covered. What are you going to believe, what is written in black and white in the bill or what the president and speaker says Wink
 
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You cant believe whats in the bill, Obama himself and Prime Minister Pelosi said that abortions would not be covered. What are you going to believe, what is written in black and white in the bill or what the president and speaker says Wink


With so many people against this Bill, with all the lies that comes out of their mouths and with the upset in NJ and VA, no right minded democrat will support this Bill if they want re-elected. All this just shows more and more stupitity and ignorance towards the american people coming out of Piglosi's mouth.
 
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But But But, all Americans should pay for abortions!
 
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Doesn't matter....elections are coming up for a lot of Demos next year and this won't get passed anytime soon.
 
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I'm telling you, that Nancy Pelosi is a piece of work. I think she is an outer space alien cadet.

Okay, just dump all the dead fetuses in her yard along with all the criminal undocumented illegal aliens she supports and let her deal with all of it at her own expense.

You want to be for all the nonsense that spews out of your mouth Nancy, then it's your dime. Keep your friggin fingers out of my wallet.
 
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You cant believe whats in the bill, Obama himself and Prime Minister Pelosi said that abortions would not be covered. What are you going to believe, what is written in black and white in the bill or what the president and speaker says Wink


Who ya gonna believe Nancy & Barry or your own lying eyes?!? Wink
 
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Ok I followed your link -- and then followed the link there to the health plan he is talking about and downloaded the pfd file. once I had the file I searched every mention of abortion [didn't you wonder at all why he did not post the txt of the part he was telling you about in his blog?]
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7 (e) ABORTION COVERAGE PROHIBITED AS PART OF
8 MINIMUM BENEFITS PACKAGE.—


8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.—
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.—The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.
17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.—The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.


3 SEC. 258. APPLICATION OF STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS RE4
GARDING ABORTION.
5 (a) NO PREEMPTION OF STATE LAWS REGARDING
6 ABORTION.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed to
7 preempt or otherwise have any effect on State laws regard8
ing the prohibition of (or requirement of) coverage, fund9
ing, or procedural requirements on abortions, including
10 parental notification or consent for the performance of an
11 abortion on a minor.
12 (b) NO EFFECT ON FEDERAL LAWS REGARDING
13 ABORTION.—
14 (1) IN GENERAL.—Nothing in this Act shall be
15 construed to have any effect on Federal laws regard16
ing—
17 (A) conscience protection;
18 (B) willingness or refusal to provide abor19
tion; and
20 (C) discrimination on the basis of the will21
ingness or refusal to provide, pay for, cover, or
22 refer for abortion or to provide or participate in
23 training to provide abortion.


3 SEC. 259. NONDISCRIMINATION ON ABORTION AND RE4
SPECT FOR RIGHTS OF CONSCIENCE.
5 (a) NONDISCRIMINATION.—A Federal agency or pro6
gram, and any State or local government that receives
7 Federal financial assistance under this Act (or an amend8
ment made by this Act), may not—
9 (1) subject any individual or institutional health
10 care entity to discrimination; or
11 (2) require any health plan created or regulated
12 under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act)
13 to subject any individual or institutional health care
14 entity to discrimination,
15 on the basis that the health care entity does not provide,
16 pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions.

11 (3) PROHIBITION OF USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS 12 FOR ABORTION COVERAGE.—An affordability credit 13 may not be used for payment for services described
14 in section 222(d)(4)(A).

1 ‘‘(3) SCHOOL-BASED HEALTH CLINIC.—The
2 term ‘school-based health clinic’ means a health clin3
ic that—
4 ‘‘(A) is located in, or is adjacent to, a
5 school facility of a local educational agency;
6 ‘‘(B) is organized through school, commu7
nity, and health provider relationships;
8 ‘‘(C) is administered by a sponsoring facil9
ity;
10 ‘‘(D) provides comprehensive primary
11 health services during school hours to children
12 and adolescents by health professionals in ac13
cordance with State and local laws and regula14
tions, established standards, and community
15 practice; and
16 ‘‘(E) does not perform abortion services.

16 (c) SENSE OF CONGRESS REGARDING LONGITU17
DINAL STUDY OF RELATIVE MENTAL HEALTH CON18
SEQUENCES FOR WOMEN OF RESOLVING A PREG19
NANCY.—
20 (1) SENSE OF CONGRESS.—It is the sense of
21 the Congress that the Director of the National Insti22
tute of Mental Health may conduct a nationally rep23
resentative longitudinal study (during the period of
24 fiscal years 2011 through 2020) on the relative men25
tal health consequences for women of resolving a
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1 pregnancy (intended and unintended) in various
2 ways, including carrying the pregnancy to term and
3 parenting the child, carrying the pregnancy to term
4 and placing the child for adoption, miscarriage, and
5 having an abortion. This study may assess the inci6
dence, timing, magnitude, and duration of the imme7
diate and long-term mental health consequences
8 (positive or negative) of these pregnancy outcomes.

1 ‘‘SEC. 804. LIMITATION ON USE OF FUNDS APPROPRIATED
2 TO INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE.
3 ‘‘Any limitation on the use of funds contained in an
4 Act providing appropriations for the Department for a pe5
riod with respect to the performance of abortions shall
6 apply for that period with respect to the performance of
7 abortions using funds contained in an Act providing ap8
propriations for the Service.

 
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There is a Liberal Dem who happens to be pro life which said he would vote to block passage if there is any funds going to abortion which I believe the opening piece called it correct when it pointed out that funds would go to the barbaric murdering act; I think he knows his stuff, and last I heard he is still fighting with Palosi over it.


Personally (abortion issue no brainer aside), I am against the bill since it punishes seniors heavily, it will limit coverage for many, it does NOT insure everyone, it strips freedom of choice and threatens jail if fines based on FORCED healthcare coverage are not payed while threatening the deadbeats with NO damages at all, and of course it will cost 1.2 TRILLION dollars that we do not have just laying around above and beyond what we already pay towards healthcare...The whole promise was ALL to be covered and for cost to go DOWN, the bill is not even close to filling any promise to the general public but instead is a huge bureaucracy that is filled with political payoffs and more Govt growth yet again...Throw in the fact that Reids Senate bill requires one to wait 6 months before they are eligible if they have a pre-existing medical condition and you have a real complete LOSER.
 
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as one Senator said about the the bill....

"This is a Madoff scheme...."


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